Bread
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Steelpit202 wrote: »For bread vs cake, another thing I've noticed from my experience is I could eat ~200-250 calories worth of bread and stop, but with cake, generally 200-250 calories won't satiate me as much. I could easily consume twice as many calories from cake if not more.
It's the exact opposite for me. Maybe the fat in the cake satisfies me or the higher sugar and fat that makes cake so rich means I don't feel like eating as much. I like small amounts of rich, sweet foods. Large amounts of rich food are off-putting and almost sickening to me. So, I would be more likely to go overboard on bread (but only if it's fresh homemade bread, since mass-produced factory bread tastes like garbage to me.)0 -
After a bit of research on bread, I've moved to just sourdough bread. I've always loved most breads, but sourdough is the better solution.2
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msjennigirl wrote: »Yep, bread has a higher glycemic index than cake. It's true. It's not just about calories. Higher GI foods spike blood glucose.
Glycemic Index is completely irrelevant unless you're eating that food in isolation from all other foods and in a fasted state. Most people don't just eat a slice or two of bread all by itself, and while in a fasted state. Once you add anything to that bread (spreads, meats, cheese, etc.), the GI will be altered by the combination of foods.
GI is also basically irrelevant unless you have some certain sort of medical condition such as diabetes, where insulin/blood sugar is an issue.15 -
I eat two slices of multi grain with my turkey and cheese sandwich for lunch3
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emmamay994 wrote: »Help!!!
I'm trying my hardest but I just can't kick the bread!!
Any advice??
@emmamay994 at the age of 63 I was very sick and on a hunch cut out sugar and grain. For the first two months I failed over and over but time was running out for me so I just did it cold turkey. It was a hellish first two weeks then the cravings just faded fast. That was three years ago and the carb cravings still have not returned. It did take like 6 months for the memory of their taste to fade but the physical demand to take a bite of bread left in the first month the best I remember. Now I stay stuffed yet maintain my weight loss that happened over time.
Best of success.
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If I didn't have bread I would be starving. Starches are high on the satiety meter for me and bread is the most convenient source of complex carbs, so the decision for me was a no-brainer. Bread was there to stay, every day multiple times a day.
Instead of thinking "I should cut out bread" try thinking "I like X food more and too much bread would crowd it out". This will make you focus on what you are gaining (having more of X food) instead of what you are losing (having less bread) and moderating your bread intake to any level that feels appropriate becomes a matter of balancing instead of restricting.
P.S: While comparing bread to cake makes no sense (one is a staple food and the other is a dessert) I go through phases where I have cake every single day for a few days in a row for breakfast, with coffee. It has not affected my weight loss because the calories are accounted for.
ETA: case in point, something just happened that illustrates how judging food by worth works for me. We have chocolate cake in the fridge and talking about cake for breakfast in this thread made me want to have cake for breakfast, but then a family member was heading out to buy hummus and falafel. I decided I wanted hummus and falafel (with bread of course) more than I wanted cake, and the cake is still sitting in the fridge. I didn't eat it, but I didn't feel restricted for not eating it because the alternative felt more desirable. What foods feel like a more attractive choice to you than bread? Visualize how much you would enjoy them and your bread intake should spontaneously go down if that's what you want.6 -
Before joining MFP, I ate bread maybe once or twice a week.
Since joining MFP, I eat it every day.
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OliveGirl128 wrote: »
My mind goes to the cake sandwich! ;-)
I don't really like bread (blasphemy, I know) other than homemade or really good restaurant bread, so I save it for special occasions (and just don't bake it). But maybe approach it like I do pasta, which I do like: plan your meals around vegetables and protein, add in some healthy sources of fat if they would otherwise be on the low fat side, and then eat whatever you like with the extra calories, but vary it some. And eat an amount that results in the overall meal having the calories that you think makes sense given overall goals. For me, I might have fruit or potatoes or sweet potatoes or pasta, etc. Or if I feel like it no starchy carbs and just more veg to make room for cheese.
Point is to make it work with your overall diet.4 -
Also, the obsession with the rather useless GI has reached absurd levels if people are arguing that the way to moderate bread is to cut it out and just let them eat cake.14
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, the obsession with the rather useless GI has reached absurd levels if people are arguing that the way to moderate bread is to cut it out and just let them eat cake.
Marie Antoinette would like it.12 -
OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes
The sprouted whole grains bread I eat has 60 calories per slice. I'd love to see a piece of cake that has that many calories.5 -
msjennigirl wrote: »Yep, bread has a higher glycemic index than cake. It's true. It's not just about calories. Higher GI foods spike blood glucose.
I'm a former prediabetic, who now has normal glucose numbers, and I eat bread every day.8 -
msjennigirl wrote: »Yep, bread has a higher glycemic index than cake. It's true. It's not just about calories. Higher GI foods spike blood glucose.
Glycemic Index is completely irrelevant unless you're eating that food in isolation from all other foods and in a fasted state. Most people don't just eat a slice or two of bread all by itself, and while in a fasted state. Once you add anything to that bread (spreads, meats, cheese, etc.), the GI will be altered by the combination of foods.
GI is also basically irrelevant unless you have some certain sort of medical condition such as diabetes, where insulin/blood sugar is an issue.
That, and people are more likely to eat cake by itself than bread by itself anyway...8 -
msjennigirl wrote: »Yep, bread has a higher glycemic index than cake. It's true. It's not just about calories. Higher GI foods spike blood glucose.
Plain french bread has a higher GI index than Chocolate cake with chocolate frosting? (the entries I looked up) I highly doubt that. Could you post a documented source for that?2 -
White bread dipped in ketchup is delicious.
Just sayin'.1 -
Don't overthink it. Stay under your calorie allotment and enjoy your bread in moderation. All these fitness geek number games will make it harder than it has to be.4
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Check out https://www.westernbagel.com/
Their "Perfect 10" bagels are the ones I buy and they are of substantial size and only 150-160 calories but have 19g of protein so they are super filling. I eat them with PB2 or cream cheese, use them for sandwiches, and even made bread pudding with them. They definitely satisfy my bread cravings.1 -
Eat the damn bread.
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May you please post a reputable link to this information @natasor1?OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes3 -
Who knew the burger on the Krispy Kreme was a choice people were making for their health. Cool.9
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OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes
I've seen some pretty weird claims on MFP. This one takes the cake.6 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »
I was just coming into post... cake vs bread? Have none of you heard of the cake sandwich!?
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OP can you clarify why you want to eliminate bread from your diet? Is it that you have difficulty moderating your intake? Are you doing a low carb diet for medical reasons? Did you read somewhere that bread was "bad" or that you can't lose weight if you eat bread?2
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Don't buy it if you don't want it. Focus on other foods you enjoy.
Moderate instead of eliminate. If you feel bread takes up too many calories and prevents you getting enough protein or something try eating it only once per day.
Put the sliced bread loaf in the freezer and only take out a small amount at a time.3 -
OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes
You must be eating weird bread and really sad cake
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OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes
I've seen some pretty weird claims on MFP. This one takes the cake.
It takes the cake sandwich!3 -
cerise_noir wrote: »OliveGirl128 wrote: »
Noop, almost the same. Plus, any bread flour contain phytoglucans which gives more glycimic impuct than any high fat cakes
I've seen some pretty weird claims on MFP. This one takes the cake.
It takes the cake sandwich!
Im going to use this line at some point offline as an inside joke and then giggle like an idiot for 5 minutes straight just watch. People think im weird </3 hah3
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