Should you wait until you've lost weight for weights?
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »Thankyou so much for your post. I am now more convinced than ever that I should be lifting weights from the start. I know it may influence me losing but I'm gonna try not to get caught up in the numbers game. I think I'll always weigh more than some other women. At the moment I am 235lbs (I've included pics below) but I still wear smaller clothes sizes than some women I know that are 30lbs lighter. And I think that's due to having natural muscle. I've seen pics on Instagram of women that weigh LESS than when they started lifting but after lifting look 50lbs lighter. I think I just wanted clarification because I am big and I didn't want to get bigger but after what people have kindly posted I don't think that's likely to happen. Also, I've decided to make my piece with being what I call a man beast (no wish to offend anyone). It used to embarrass me when male staff at work would ask me to crush tablets for them if they couldn't manage it but I'm just gonna go with it now, I am what I am so if I do end up even stronger lol so be it. Thanks again to all that have posted :-)
lol...interesting pics - these were supposed to show your "natural muscle mass" ?? as someone said above, you likely don't have nearly the amount of muscle mass as you keep stating (and these pics don't suggest anything different).
I don't have visible muscles, as I said I don't lift weights but I am naturally very strong, like I'm known for it. That's what I meant that can be built upon. Im not claiming to be ripped lol as I said I have never lifted a weight in my life so that wouldn't happen and I also eat 5000 cals per day +. So no I am not ripped but I am naturally a larger person and quite strong. My sister is the same height but a smaller build than me. Many moons ago when I weighed about 154lbs, my sister weighed 135lbs. We both wore a UK size 10, which I think is a US size 6? If I had got to 135lbs I literally would have died there would have been nothing of me left but my sister looked healthy at that weight as she is smaller boned. I don't think that's an excuse some people are larger framed than others
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »Thankyou so much for your post. I am now more convinced than ever that I should be lifting weights from the start. I know it may influence me losing but I'm gonna try not to get caught up in the numbers game. I think I'll always weigh more than some other women. At the moment I am 235lbs (I've included pics below) but I still wear smaller clothes sizes than some women I know that are 30lbs lighter. And I think that's due to having natural muscle. I've seen pics on Instagram of women that weigh LESS than when they started lifting but after lifting look 50lbs lighter. I think I just wanted clarification because I am big and I didn't want to get bigger but after what people have kindly posted I don't think that's likely to happen. Also, I've decided to make my piece with being what I call a man beast (no wish to offend anyone). It used to embarrass me when male staff at work would ask me to crush tablets for them if they couldn't manage it but I'm just gonna go with it now, I am what I am so if I do end up even stronger lol so be it. Thanks again to all that have posted :-)
lol...interesting pics - these were supposed to show your "natural muscle mass" ?? as someone said above, you likely don't have nearly the amount of muscle mass as you keep stating (and these pics don't suggest anything different).
Yea I agree.... Maybe OP inserted the wrong photos by accident?2 -
tanny20171 wrote: »Thankyou so much for your post. I am now more convinced than ever that I should be lifting weights from the start. I know it may influence me losing but I'm gonna try not to get caught up in the numbers game. I think I'll always weigh more than some other women. At the moment I am 235lbs (I've included pics below) but I still wear smaller clothes sizes than some women I know that are 30lbs lighter. And I think that's due to having natural muscle. I've seen pics on Instagram of women that weigh LESS than when they started lifting but after lifting look 50lbs lighter. I think I just wanted clarification because I am big and I didn't want to get bigger but after what people have kindly posted I don't think that's likely to happen. Also, I've decided to make my piece with being what I call a man beast (no wish to offend anyone). It used to embarrass me when male staff at work would ask me to crush tablets for them if they couldn't manage it but I'm just gonna go with it now, I am what I am so if I do end up even stronger lol so be it. Thanks again to all that have posted :-)
Why have you posted a picture of your rack OP?5 -
tanny20171 wrote: »I don't think that's an excuse some people are larger framed than others
I was overweight or obese my entire adult life (about 20 years) & used to think this, too. After losing weight the only part of "large frame" I retained was my height.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »Thankyou so much for your post. I am now more convinced than ever that I should be lifting weights from the start. I know it may influence me losing but I'm gonna try not to get caught up in the numbers game. I think I'll always weigh more than some other women. At the moment I am 235lbs (I've included pics below) but I still wear smaller clothes sizes than some women I know that are 30lbs lighter. And I think that's due to having natural muscle. I've seen pics on Instagram of women that weigh LESS than when they started lifting but after lifting look 50lbs lighter. I think I just wanted clarification because I am big and I didn't want to get bigger but after what people have kindly posted I don't think that's likely to happen. Also, I've decided to make my piece with being what I call a man beast (no wish to offend anyone). It used to embarrass me when male staff at work would ask me to crush tablets for them if they couldn't manage it but I'm just gonna go with it now, I am what I am so if I do end up even stronger lol so be it. Thanks again to all that have posted :-)
Why have you posted a picture of your rack OP?
My intention in the pic is not to show I'm muscular I know I'm not.
What I mean to say is right now I am 5ft 7 235lbs and a UK size 16, or US 12. My best friend is 5ft 5, 196lbs and a UK size 18, I think a US 14. I'm not massively taller but I am just bigger. Bigger framed and therefore more natural muscle. My wrists are 17inches that's what defines a large frame is it not.... I'm not saying I'm muscular or rippled just that I am a bigger person naturally and can carry more weight because of that
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that trainer sounds like he just took it for granted the only thing you care about is the way that you look.tanny20171 wrote: »He said if I pack muscle over fat I will look huge
i would personally want to drop some of those weights on his toe, but ymmv about that. if it is in fact what your main purpose is, then i guess he could even be right.
idk though. i've been a member of a heavy-lifting group for women here for three years and seen plenty of progress pics from 'solid' women whose overall shape has been changed by lifting, in ways they seem very happy about.
as far as if you're NOT only motivated by what men like him think of you, then i'd be saying 'why waste the muscle you already have? do it now do it do it!' but i'm speaking from that can-only-dream peanut gallery made up of women who never did have much to begin with and are trying to build from the ground up.
gl either way.
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canadianlbs wrote: »that trainer sounds like he just took it for granted the only thing you care about is the way that you look.tanny20171 wrote: »He said if I pack muscle over fat I will look huge
i would personally want to drop some of those weights on his toe, but ymmv about that. if it is in fact what your main purpose is, then i guess he could even be right.
idk though. i've been a member of a heavy-lifting group for women here for three years and seen plenty of progress pics from 'solid' women whose overall shape has been changed by lifting, in ways they seem very happy about.
as far as if you're NOT only motivated by what men like him think of you, then i'd be saying 'why waste the muscle you already have? do it now do it do it!' but i'm speaking from that can-only-dream peanut gallery made up of women who never did have much to begin with and are trying to build from the ground up.
gl either way.
Haha, this made me laugh thankyou
. No metabolic health is more important than appearance, its health that matters the most. Thanks for your post xx
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This whole "where are your muscles" witch hunt thing is reminding me of a similar incident I had at work....when I was warned by the health and safety officer to stop going out alone into the car park to warn off kids doing drugs there....words to the effect of "you think you're Rambo but you're not " lol0
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Just lift weights. Don't worry about what being "too muscular" at this point.
I'd recommend the book New Rules of Weight Lifting for Women. The lifting program gets a little convoluted after the first phase but the text of the book contains solid information and helps settle a lot of the concerns women have about lifting.0 -
tanny20171 wrote: »This whole "where are your muscles" witch hunt thing is reminding me of a similar incident I had at work....when I was warned by the health and safety officer to stop going out alone into the car park to warn off kids doing drugs there....words to the effect of "you think you're Rambo but you're not " lol
I think the confusion is because you keep talking about your naturally muscly build, then post pics of your rack (thanks tavistock for just saying it!)2 -
Who are these crappy Personal Trainers who make all of us trainers look bad?
I'd suggest hitting the weights and dumping the trainer.1 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »This whole "where are your muscles" witch hunt thing is reminding me of a similar incident I had at work....when I was warned by the health and safety officer to stop going out alone into the car park to warn off kids doing drugs there....words to the effect of "you think you're Rambo but you're not " lol
I think the confusion is because you keep talking about your naturally muscly build, then post pics of your rack (thanks tavistock for just saying it!)
You're welcome, not sure whether it really translated though....1 -
That pic is not my rack it's my body? I'm pretty much 1/3 boob so they're gonna be there no matter what pic I post.Muscleflex79 wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »This whole "where are your muscles" witch hunt thing is reminding me of a similar incident I had at work....when I was warned by the health and safety officer to stop going out alone into the car park to warn off kids doing drugs there....words to the effect of "you think you're Rambo but you're not " lol
I think the confusion is because you keep talking about your naturally muscly build, then post pics of your rack (thanks tavistock for just saying it!)
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Lift now, the sooner the better. Not going to say it'll stop you getting loose skin, because from my experience it won't. But it'll still make you look and feel better beneath that loose skin. I started at 290lb size 28Uk (ish), am now 150lb and a 10/12UK, at least a stone heavier than last time I was this size. Also once you get past the loose skin (which may or may not retract over the next few years) I'm looking pretty good for a 45yo mum of 6 and I credit that to lifting and lifting heavy. A good program to start with is stronglifts 5x5, it gives a good base to work on with other programs once you plateau.
So this is my photo and while there's no way you could say that I've packed muscle on top of the fat I am starting to build up my upper body and shoulders.
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cushman5279 wrote: »Lift weights.
The end.
pretty much.1 -
I hate cardio, I only do it three times a week and I lift 5 days a week. Do yoga on my two "rest" days.0
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tanny20171 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »tanny20171 wrote: »Thankyou so much for your post. I am now more convinced than ever that I should be lifting weights from the start. I know it may influence me losing but I'm gonna try not to get caught up in the numbers game. I think I'll always weigh more than some other women. At the moment I am 235lbs (I've included pics below) but I still wear smaller clothes sizes than some women I know that are 30lbs lighter. And I think that's due to having natural muscle. I've seen pics on Instagram of women that weigh LESS than when they started lifting but after lifting look 50lbs lighter. I think I just wanted clarification because I am big and I didn't want to get bigger but after what people have kindly posted I don't think that's likely to happen. Also, I've decided to make my piece with being what I call a man beast (no wish to offend anyone). It used to embarrass me when male staff at work would ask me to crush tablets for them if they couldn't manage it but I'm just gonna go with it now, I am what I am so if I do end up even stronger lol so be it. Thanks again to all that have posted :-)
Why have you posted a picture of your rack OP?
My intention in the pic is not to show I'm muscular I know I'm not.
What I mean to say is right now I am 5ft 7 235lbs and a UK size 16, or US 12. My best friend is 5ft 5, 196lbs and a UK size 18, I think a US 14. I'm not massively taller but I am just bigger. Bigger framed and therefore more natural muscle. My wrists are 17inches that's what defines a large frame is it not.... I'm not saying I'm muscular or rippled just that I am a bigger person naturally and can carry more weight because of that
As another 5'7" female, may I suggest that being overweight, and 235 is about 75 lbs overweight, does not mean you have more natural muscle. Your wrists are not 17" so that is woo. Wrist size does not determine "frame size" and certainly not when you are overweight. You have been fed a lot of falsehoods that people create to justify themselves. I'm not saying you do this, but you have been told this and now believe it because you trusted those saying it.
TLDR; Do weights, You will not regret it.2 -
That trainer is an idiot (but we've established that).
Lift all the weights.2 -
Hi,
I'm doing the Tiffxo program. It's cardio and strength. You use hand weights on the strength days and do bodyweight exercises, squats, lunges, pushups ect.. I feel so much stronger but is this enough or should I be doing weoghts as well?0 -
tanny20171 wrote: »Building muscle by lifting weights will help burn more fat than any amount of cardio on the treadmill. Your metabolism will continue to burn fat for at least 2 days after you've had a good weights session. Treadmill/cardio is good for your health but will not boost your metabolism for more than the day you do it. Please don't listen to that silly man je needs to go read up on effective exercises. All women should lift some weights. Apart from helping lose fat you change your body shape and you strengthen your bone density. All in all keep going. You can do it always believe in your abilities. I am a fitness and pilates instructor so you know I'm not just pulling things out of no where.
Thankyou, I had no idea fat continues to burn post weights session so that has given me more motivation. Thanks for your post
You are welcome. Enjoy what you do and you will feel ( most important) and look great. X0
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