Nuclei overload training
Smidge22
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So I started this new training program that consist of working out the same body part for a month straight. Going to failure every day. I am going to do it on my biceps and then next month try it out on my triceps. What do you guys think about this kind of training.
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You're missing out on all the good stuff. Honestly, if your back or chest are weak your biceps and triceps growth will be limited. It's a really poor program for all those guys who just want to have big arms and it's not going to accomplish that.
To be direct: That plan sucks and you're going to waste a few months figuring that out.9 -
What? Why?
What's the research behind that?5 -
Enjoy your tendinitis and no gains.12
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Who thinks up these things? SMH4
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Surely the whole point of weight training is to over-stress the muscles to stimulate growth in the recovery? But, with this 'programme', you're eliminating all the recovery4
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Where do these things come from?2
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That program makes Wendler's appear to be optimal.
Seriously, it's silly at best.3 -
Here's a hint...if you're doing some super special off the wall training that no one else in the entire fitness community has even heard of, let alone followed, it's a complete waste of time and you shouldn't do it.4
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Are you talking about Migan's concept?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqweJ2nQSp4
It is just adding daily submax-effort, low-weight, high-rep work to an existing program. He may have come up with the name, but he did not invent the concept. Meh. You may get something out of it if your current program frequency is too low or it lacks adequate volume. You may also end up with an injury if you don't get the intensity right.2 -
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So I started this new training program that consist of working out the same body part for a month straight. Going to failure every day. I am going to do it on my biceps and then next month try it out on my triceps. What do you guys think about this kind of training.
I think you need to stop browsing broscience.com for workout programs...3 -
Have some kid who comes in 5 days a week (at least - I'm not there all 7 days, lol) and grabs a curl bar, throws 25# plates on it and goes to work. He does as many bad form curls as he can - switch to 10# plates, do preachers, switch to DB's and do swinging hammers (lol) and finish doing curls on the cable machine. Takes about an hour to work through the volume he was pumping into his biceps.
Fast forward 9 months - he's still doing the same exact weights, still bad form and still skinny as *kitten*... granted, he's probably no eating enough to sustain growth but I wonder if he calls what he's doing "Nuclei Overload Training".
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So I started this new training program that consist of working out the same body part for a month straight. Going to failure every day. I am going to do it on my biceps and then next month try it out on my triceps. What do you guys think about this kind of training.
just don't do it in the squat rack. Let us know the results.4 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.3
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You're missing out on all the good stuff. Honestly, if your back or chest are weak your biceps and triceps growth will be limited. It's a really poor program for all those guys who just want to have big arms and it's not going to accomplish that.
To be direct: That plan sucks and you're going to waste a few months figuring that out.
I lift and hit them twice a week going really heavy.2 -
I would be very curious though what happens to say the biceps after the 2nd month, where you just spent a month working on say triceps and the biceps got no workout or barely any for 30 days.
Or in this case still doing other lifts - how many of them start sucking because the biceps were needed to work a bigger muscle, but they are too worn out to do so.
It would also be interesting to see how many days in your workouts start becoming medicore because of lack of recovery.
You do realize it's the recovery that actually makes the improvement from a good workout - not the workout.
With adequate rest and food for recovery.
But since you seem pretty intent - keep reporting in with honest results.
I've yet to see a thread updated from some hair brained idea regarding weight loss - so either the person died or realized how foolish it ended up being.
So I'd be very curious here how it goes.6 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
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I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.8 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
CT Fletcher is on steroids and suffers from tennis elbow (it's why he can't lock out his arms during various lifts, like triceps extensions). Tennis elbow is another name for elbow tendonitis. He's missed almost a year of all arm work due to tendon issues in his elbow.
Yeah, that's someone I'd totally follow.8 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
If you want to know science, id recommend looking at Dr. Layne Norton. There is no benefit to training to failure everytime.
ETA, in fact if you contiously taken everything to failure, you will see decreases in performance.5 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
You seem to have your mind made up and didn't really come here looking for advice but for confirmation. You aren't going to get it. This training method is a just plain bad idea. I'm hoping you will reconsider.6 -
I would be very curious though what happens to say the biceps after the 2nd month, where you just spent a month working on say triceps and the biceps got no workout or barely any for 30 days.
Or in this case still doing other lifts - how many of them start sucking because the biceps were needed to work a bigger muscle, but they are too worn out to do so.
It would also be interesting to see how many days in your workouts start becoming medicore because of lack of recovery.
You do realize it's the recovery that actually makes the improvement from a good workout - not the workout.
With adequate rest and food for recovery.
But since you seem pretty intent - keep reporting in with honest results.
I've yet to see a thread updated from some hair brained idea regarding weight loss - so either the person died or realized how foolish it ended up being.
So I'd be very curious here how it goes.
This is really the biggest issue... what happens post 1 month of training. I mean, let's face it, doing something for a month means nothing... its what you do for years.
This reminds me of the kids in my gym who want big arms and every day is an arm day, and then ask how i got mine.
Honestly, i cant phathom a reason to do this...3 -
I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
You seem to have your mind made up and didn't really come here looking for advice but for confirmation. You aren't going to get it. This training method is a just plain bad idea. I'm hoping you will reconsider.
Thank you guys. I am on week 2. I will give it another week or so. If I don't see any results then I not going to continue with this program.4 -
So everyday for a month straight and to failure? Just one set? Or several sets and exercises? If so, just know, muscle doesn't grow from working out........................it grows at rest. And if there's inadequate rest, you may build better muscle endurance, but building mass is approached much different.So I started this new training program that consist of working out the same body part for a month straight. Going to failure every day. I am going to do it on my biceps and then next month try it out on my triceps. What do you guys think about this kind of training.
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Lol, so you just care about the pump? Dude, if that's the case just do some curls before you walk around with sleeves rolled up.I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Dude, overload training programs DON'T focus on the same body part everyday. It's easy to be naive when you're young and not very knowledgeable yet about how physiology works.I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
And I like CT Fletcher, but he's not on "supplements". That dude takes some serious stacks and drugs do make a difference in recovery and growth. I don't endorse doing it though.
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You're NOT going to see much results at all in a few weeks. It can take a few MONTHS to even see significant change on just a balanced program alone.I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
You seem to have your mind made up and didn't really come here looking for advice but for confirmation. You aren't going to get it. This training method is a just plain bad idea. I'm hoping you will reconsider.
Thank you guys. I am on week 2. I will give it another week or so. If I don't see any results then I not going to continue with this program.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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You're NOT going to see much results at all in a few weeks. It can take a few MONTHS to even see significant change on just a balanced program alone.I still hit my other lifts during the month. I just hit arms everyday. I hit arms in the morning then let them rest til the next day but I don't let them completely get healed. Yes it is risky. Your muscle fibers get use to being worked every day that it keeps a pump.
Rest is when the muscles grow. It's stupid and you're likely to end up with tendonitis in your elbow and maybe even shoulder. Then you'll have to take it really easy for like 6 months until that heals otherwise you could end up with tendon cell death and eventually tendon rupture. Then they have to cut your leg open to harvest tendon tissue to reattach the muscle to the bone and now you're done with heavy lifting (upper and lower) as well as football forever and either you biceps or triceps on one arm (usually biceps) look all sorts of jacked up until you die.
But this is definitely a sexy look, you should go for it:
That could happen if you do the training wrong. You have to do the lifts and be smart on the weight you use. I am going on 2 week of this training and all i am doing is working my biceps to failure then I let it rest until the next day. Plus the supplements that I am taking are mostly recovery shops. My arms are not even dead right now. You need to go look up CT Fletcher and read about his thoughts on overload training it has been around for years.
You seem to have your mind made up and didn't really come here looking for advice but for confirmation. You aren't going to get it. This training method is a just plain bad idea. I'm hoping you will reconsider.
Thank you guys. I am on week 2. I will give it another week or so. If I don't see any results then I not going to continue with this program.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
In about a week if my body feels like it is not working and it is making me more tired. Then I will quit.3
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