Anyone else miss fresh corduroy?

NorthCascades
NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
edited November 21 in Fitness and Exercise
Winter is coming.

Think snow.

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  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    Winter is going. We get no snow.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    We have great trails for both skate & classic 15 minutes from my house.......I may just buy pass this year for a bit of a change from the running.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    It will be back soon enough!
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    BrianSharpe wrote: »
    We have great trails for both skate & classic 15 minutes from my house.......I may just buy pass this year for a bit of a change from the running.

    As a runner, you'll probably find it an easy transition - and refreshing.

    I can ski a hilly 10K in 35 minutes on classic gear.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    winter is coming... there will be no snow... :cry:
  • slimgirljo15
    slimgirljo15 Posts: 269,456 Member
    Start of spring here ..
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Thank goodness winter is slowly being pushed out by spring. But it's going kicking and screaming. Snow is predicted down to 400 metres again tomorrow ... and yet the daffodils and cherry trees are in bloom.

    We do get snow, but unfortunately not enough to do anything with.
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    cannot wait till it is a blizzard and minus 35, want to snowshoe and ice skate!, oh yes!, but today is hot with humidex and the pool is still open, so drinks by the pool for me,.... for now!
  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    God no.
  • DX2JX2
    DX2JX2 Posts: 1,921 Member
    KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »
    cannot wait till it is a blizzard and minus 35, want to snowshoe and ice skate!, oh yes!, but today is hot with humidex and the pool is still open, so drinks by the pool for me,.... for now!

    I haven't skated or played hockey on a lake in almost 30 years now. I think I may have to seek one out if it gets cold enough this year.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »
    cannot wait till it is a blizzard and minus 35, want to snowshoe and ice skate!, oh yes!, but today is hot with humidex and the pool is still open, so drinks by the pool for me,.... for now!

    You said humidex.....you must be Canadian!

    Yeah, it's going to be over 30 here this weekend and the Army Run is Sunday. I'm looking forward to winter.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    BrianSharpe wrote: »
    We have great trails for both skate & classic 15 minutes from my house.......I may just buy pass this year for a bit of a change from the running.

    As a runner, you'll probably find it an easy transition - and refreshing.

    I can ski a hilly 10K in 35 minutes on classic gear.

    I picked up a pair of classic skis, boots etc a couple of years back and actually invested in some lessons but didn't get out much last year. I figure if I buy the season pass for Gatineau Park it'll take away any excuses I may have for being lazy.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    Significant snow likely at Paradise this weekend.
  • GettingThere62
    GettingThere62 Posts: 83 Member
    77 days until ski season ⛷⛷⛷
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    Ex-skier here - - old age & too many injuries -
    but I do miss the sound and feel of letting the skis run over freshly groomed slopes.

    Haven't been in the mts during winter for several years but I still have a pair of snow shoes and treking poles that I hope to make use of this season.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,224 Member
    I am thankful every winter that where I am from, snow is recreational and voluntary.
  • canadianlbs
    canadianlbs Posts: 5,199 Member
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.

    "Corduroy" refers to the texture of the surface of hard packed snow when groomed by machine on ski slopes, which has the parallel rowed look of corduroy.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.

    Have a look at the snow the guy in the first post is skiing over. Note the resemblance to corduroy pants. "Fresh corduroy" means snow that's just been groomed for cross country skiing. (You can ski on non-groomed snow too, but groomed is faster and easier, like a bike on smooth new pavement.)
  • KNoceros
    KNoceros Posts: 326 Member
    edited September 2017
    ME!!! But I'm alpine rather than x-country and my skiing winter is scheduled to start in less than 8 weeks.... I'm already impatiently checking the resort web-cams in anticipation of lots of snow.
  • peleroja
    peleroja Posts: 3,979 Member
    I love fresh and all, but I'd even be good with soupy May leftovers at this point if it means I can be out on a mountain again.

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  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    edited September 2017
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.

    Have a look at the snow the guy in the first post is skiing over. Note the resemblance to corduroy pants. "Fresh corduroy" means snow that's just been groomed for cross country skiing. (You can ski on non-groomed snow too, but groomed is faster and easier, like a bike on smooth new pavement.)

    The grooming of downhill slopes and cross country trails differs based on the type of skiing involved and the type of skis/boots used.

    Corduroy grooming is more commonly associated w/downhill skiing. It allows the skis to flow smoothly along the hard pack and provides a predictable surface for the steel edges to bite. In downhill, gravity is what powers the skis and you mainly use foot pressure and leg position to point and turn the skis via the edges.

    On the other hand, cross country skis are mainly powered by the skier him/herself - - at least on flat or uphill runs, which you seldom have to deal with in downhill. This is also why downhill boots are extremely large and stiff, ehile x-country shoes are small and flexible.

    So, cross country trails are normally tracked w/2 ski wide grooves (not groomed w/narrow corduroy like grooves), as shown in the 1st pic, so that the x-skis can remain flat on the snow in position w/o wandering left/rt which allows the skier to transfer more power to push off the skis w/o wasting effort to keep them on track.

    While the wax (or artifical surface) of x-country skis are designed to stick when pressure is placed on them but glide when not, downhill skis are just designed to run and not stick at all (any sticking on downhill skis will probably result in a crash/fall - not a good thing).

    Poles used in downhill and x-country also differ in design and purpose.

    Except in mogals or off piste, weight is not normally placed on downhill poles. They are usually shorter, lighter and primarily used as a timing device.

    On the other hand, x-country poles are used to propel the skier thru the snow (or along a track) w/a pushoff performed in coordination w/the legs and skis. So, they are normally longer and heavier and studier than downhill poles.
  • canadianlbs
    canadianlbs Posts: 5,199 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.

    "Corduroy" refers to the texture of the surface of hard packed snow when groomed by machine on ski slopes, which has the parallel rowed look of corduroy.

    thanks :smiley: i sort of figured it out but that initial brain derp was real.

  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
    I've only ever skied in Scotland and Pennsylvania. I've never seen this corduroy phenomenon. Can you do it to slopes of solid ice?
  • timtam163
    timtam163 Posts: 500 Member
    Gotta get my glutes into shape!! Nordic all the way!! <3<3
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    Winter here means rain, mud slides, and power outages
  • DapperDassie
    DapperDassie Posts: 190 Member
    Live in northern California so no snow for me :,(
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    It doesn't snow often in Seattle, and never enough to ski in. But we have mountains nearby, and cars. :smile:

    Last year I bought a season pass to Cabin Creek, and made good use of it. But it's made me appreciate the Methow with its 200+ km of groomed trails.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    sgt1372 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    um . . . so i take it 'corduroy' does not mean the clothes?

    asking for a friend.

    Have a look at the snow the guy in the first post is skiing over. Note the resemblance to corduroy pants. "Fresh corduroy" means snow that's just been groomed for cross country skiing. (You can ski on non-groomed snow too, but groomed is faster and easier, like a bike on smooth new pavement.)

    The grooming of downhill slopes and cross country trails differs based on the type of skiing involved and the type of skis/boots used.

    Corduroy grooming is more commonly associated w/downhill skiing. It allows the skis to flow smoothly along the hard pack and provides a predictable surface for the steel edges to bite. In downhill, gravity is what powers the skis and you mainly use foot pressure and leg position to point and turn the skis via the edges.

    On the other hand, cross country skis are mainly powered by the skier him/herself - - at least on flat or uphill runs, which you seldom have to deal with in downhill. This is also why downhill boots are extremely large and stiff, ehile x-country shoes are small and flexible.

    So, cross country trails are normally tracked w/2 ski wide grooves (not groomed w/narrow corduroy like grooves), as shown in the 1st pic, so that the x-skis can remain flat on the snow in position w/o wandering left/rt which allows the skier to transfer more power to push off the skis w/o wasting effort to keep them on track.

    While the wax (or artifical surface) of x-country skis are designed to stick when pressure is placed on them but glide when not, downhill skis are just designed to run and not stick at all (any sticking on downhill skis will probably result in a crash/fall - not a good thing).

    Poles used in downhill and x-country also differ in design and purpose.

    Except in mogals or off piste, weight is not normally placed on downhill poles. They are usually shorter, lighter and primarily used as a timing device.

    On the other hand, x-country poles are used to propel the skier thru the snow (or along a track) w/a pushoff performed in coordination w/the legs and skis. So, they are normally longer and heavier and studier than downhill poles.

    For Nordic, topically there's a set of tracks on the right, and then a wide skate lane that's groomed with a corduroy texture. I haven't tried skate yet, but it's in my list this winter. I usually descend in the skate lane.

    I'm not at a reaching level but find it interesting. A lot of people don't was their skis to take anymore, they just double pole.
  • tiny_clanger
    tiny_clanger Posts: 301 Member
    No snow for any of us if we carry on the way we are

    ipcc.ch/
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