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As responses to this are coming in quicker than I can reply to, I'll just make one last clarification. I was in no way insulting, criticizing, or preaching to anyone. Simply looking for other like minded people. In fact, I was simply excited that I learned to make some awesome homemade flavored coffee creamer this morning without all the additives found in the store bought kind and I was looking for people to share that kind of thing with and who would share recipes and "hacks" like that with me. I never said I didn't eat anything processed. In fact I love diet mt dew and Cheetos, two of the worst foods there are. I just try to outweigh the bad choices with what I feel are better ones. And I did not coin the phrase "real food movement". I thought that anyone who watched food network or reads food blogs would be familiar with that phrase. It's just what it's called. Best wishes to everyone on their health journey, whatever that may look like.
Unfortunately you've stumbled onto a hot button topic that's been discussed many times on these forums, so people can be a bit trigger-happy with their responses. @WinoGelato is right - these threads rarely go well. I hope you'll stick around, read the forums, and search past threads for inspiration.4 -
@ToriMalt no one is picking on you. Some topics just have a tendency to turn into heated arguments from both sides, and this is one of them. Don't take it personally, but historically, these things don't go well. That's all the longtime posters are saying.
That being said, I'd love to hear more about your coffee creamer. I've tried creating a bunch of variations, and none of the ones that tasted good came in at fewer calories than half and half.2 -
Don't eat bad food.3
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Lord help me. This post in no way ridiculed anyone else's lifestyle or told anyone else how to eat. I was simply looking for other like minded people to exchange recipes, tips, info with. If anyone took offense to that then it's on you. I'm not sure if people know this or not, but if you read something that doesn't interest you or that you think is silly, you can simply keep scrolling and you are not required to comment.
I've learned that's it's better to just not mention stuff like this on the MFP forums. People are defensive about their Oreos and Pop Tarts.10 -
OK, here's a hack, since you have chickens. Every fall, my old, moulting hens turn into pints of delicious, rich chicken stock that I use all year for quick soups and stews. I hatch my own, so extra roosters have a similar fate as the base for soups and stews. If you don't have a pressure canner, you will want to get one.0
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Strawblackcat wrote: »Lord help me. This post in no way ridiculed anyone else's lifestyle or told anyone else how to eat. I was simply looking for other like minded people to exchange recipes, tips, info with. If anyone took offense to that then it's on you. I'm not sure if people know this or not, but if you read something that doesn't interest you or that you think is silly, you can simply keep scrolling and you are not required to comment.
I've learned that's it's better to just not mention stuff like this on the MFP forums. People are defensive about their Oreos and Pop Tarts.
Really? I've mostly found that people, rather than being defensive, are trying to dispel the notion that you need to eat "clean" or "real" or "non processed" foods to lose weight or be healthy. Many people are relieved when they learn they can still enjoy treats in moderation and have an overall healthy diet and lose weight.
But maybe that's just me.7 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »People are defensive about their Oreos and Pop Tarts.
Well that sounds pretty elitist...11 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »Lord help me. This post in no way ridiculed anyone else's lifestyle or told anyone else how to eat. I was simply looking for other like minded people to exchange recipes, tips, info with. If anyone took offense to that then it's on you. I'm not sure if people know this or not, but if you read something that doesn't interest you or that you think is silly, you can simply keep scrolling and you are not required to comment.
I've learned that's it's better to just not mention stuff like this on the MFP forums. People are defensive about their Oreos and Pop Tarts.
I'll defend my non-organic vegetables. I'm not made of money!7 -
I tried eating imaginary food for a while, but it got mixed with the real food. Things got complex.7
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Strawblackcat wrote: »Lord help me. This post in no way ridiculed anyone else's lifestyle or told anyone else how to eat. I was simply looking for other like minded people to exchange recipes, tips, info with. If anyone took offense to that then it's on you. I'm not sure if people know this or not, but if you read something that doesn't interest you or that you think is silly, you can simply keep scrolling and you are not required to comment.
I've learned that's it's better to just not mention stuff like this on the MFP forums. People are defensive about their Oreos and Pop Tarts.
I'm not. I don't think anything is wrong with those foods, but I haven't eaten a pop tart for decades, and have oreos maybe once a year (same when I was fat).
I AM puzzled by the idea that cooking from whole foods is a "movement" or "lifestyle" rather than just normal, so I wanted to clarify what was meant. If the real idea behind this thread is that it would be fun to talk about things we like to cook (and not worry about the fact that we might buy premade stuff occasionally), then I'm up for that.
I would never had thought that "creamer" was something you needed a recipe for, maybe because I am a black coffee fan, but even back in the day when I was not I would add plain old dairy, like cream or milk. I didn't realize some would find this unusual.
That's actually why I asked about perceptions, because sometimes I think the OP in these threads thinks that in cooking with whole foods she is doing something far more unusual than it is. (Rather than something that I think a large portion of regulars in the MFP comment section do.)8 -
I tend to cook more with minimally-processed foods, but I'll still grab a veggie dog to snack on or make some Gardein if I don't feel like doing something from scratch. Like today is when I cook for the week. I just made some wild rice and millet croquettes that are about as 'whole foods' as I can get without harvesting the veggies from my own patch or pressing my own olive oil.
But, when it came time for lunch, I rolled up some Gardein imitation ground beef with Daiya mozzarella, jarred salsa and some shredded carrot and scallion in a flour tortilla I got from the supermarket.
Most days are like that. I don't go out to eat that often (or order in) and it's rare that I'll have a whole frozen dinner. But convenience foods are... convenient. A number of them fit my calories, and sodium isn't currently an issue for me.
Off to make a vegetable soup now. With fresh veggies, homemade stock... and pre-ground, heaven-only-knows-how-long-they've-been-sitting-on-the-shelf seasonings. Par for my course.3 -
Anyone else on here a lover of the real food movement? Not crazy obsessed, just trying to eat whole, healthy, real food. Looking for real food buddies to share tips and recipes. Add me if this is you or if you're curious to know more about it!
The main forums aren't receptive to the notion that a whole food based diet is best - as long as it won't kill you it's good food! lol
Have you checked out the groups on MFP? There's a clean eating group you might like: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/133-clean-eating-group12 -
Didn't realize I would need to specify. The real food movement is just moving away from processed food with additives and such. Real food refers to food in its more natural, whole state. Example: a diet based on organic fruits & veggies, organic and/or grassfed meats, dairy products that are processed as little as possible, etc. If your intention is to mock or ridicule please keep your comments to yourself. I'm looking for people with a like interest in this lifestyle; if it's not your deal that's cool, just don't be rude.
You're new here, aren't you?!5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I would never had thought that "creamer" was something you needed a recipe for, maybe because I am a black coffee fan, but even back in the day when I was not I would add plain old dairy, like cream or milk. I didn't realize some would find this unusual.
In my case, I was hoping to come up with a homemade, low calorie alternative for the yummy, but high cal, highly processed Carnation French Vanilla creamer. I gave up. Anything I made that was creamy enough had enough calories that I might as well just use half and half. My compromise is almond milk on weekdays, half and half on the weekends.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I would never had thought that "creamer" was something you needed a recipe for, maybe because I am a black coffee fan, but even back in the day when I was not I would add plain old dairy, like cream or milk. I didn't realize some would find this unusual.
In my case, I was hoping to come up with a homemade, low calorie alternative for the yummy, but high cal, highly processed Carnation French Vanilla creamer. I gave up. Anything I made that was creamy enough had enough calories that I might as well just use half and half. My compromise is almond milk on weekdays, half and half on the weekends.
I was playing around with low carb ice cream (I love creamy and don't care about sugar, so figured it might be easy) and made one that was basically half greek yogurt (plain), half whipping cream, vanilla extract, and cardamom (the point was to do cardamom). It was good, but got too hard in the freezer (texture was off) and so when I had it the second time I decided it would work better in coffee, kind of like an affogato. It ended up being a potentially delicious creamer, but I don't normally use creamer and it was (obv) very high cal, about the same as normal ice cream.
I did have some one morning in my coffee as my own version of bulletproof coffee.
If the concern is "processing," though, I really don't think half and half is, and certainly milk and cream is not. High cal, however, since it's not the processing that adds the cals.1 -
Never heard of the Real Food Movement. But we grow, raise, hunt or fish for the majority of our food. Does that count?1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »I would never had thought that "creamer" was something you needed a recipe for, maybe because I am a black coffee fan, but even back in the day when I was not I would add plain old dairy, like cream or milk. I didn't realize some would find this unusual.
In my case, I was hoping to come up with a homemade, low calorie alternative for the yummy, but high cal, highly processed Carnation French Vanilla creamer. I gave up. Anything I made that was creamy enough had enough calories that I might as well just use half and half. My compromise is almond milk on weekdays, half and half on the weekends.
At the risk of derailing this thread further.
I have no idea if this classifies as a 'real food' (or even what that means ) but this is the recipe I use for creamer. It's pretty awesome by itself, but it's also good as a base. Sometimes I add in pumpkin pie spice and cinnamon.
https://againstallgrain.com/2012/01/19/french-vanilla-coffee-creamer-dairy-free/1 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »Anyone else on here a lover of the real food movement? Not crazy obsessed, just trying to eat whole, healthy, real food. Looking for real food buddies to share tips and recipes. Add me if this is you or if you're curious to know more about it!
The main forums aren't receptive to the notion that eating an exclusivelya whole food based diet is best a requirement - as long as it won't kill you fits in your calories and you eat a primarily nutrient dense diet it's good food! lol
Have you checked out the groups on MFP? There's a clean eating group you might like: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/133-clean-eating-group
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WinoGelato wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »Anyone else on here a lover of the real food movement? Not crazy obsessed, just trying to eat whole, healthy, real food. Looking for real food buddies to share tips and recipes. Add me if this is you or if you're curious to know more about it!
The main forums aren't receptive to the notion that eating an exclusivelya whole food based diet is best a requirement - as long as it won't kill you fits in your calories and you eat a primarily nutrient dense diet it's good food! lol
Have you checked out the groups on MFP? There's a clean eating group you might like: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/133-clean-eating-group
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That's what you say but that's clearly not the consensus. If it was a post as innocuous as this one looking for like minded people who aren't "crazy obsessed, just trying to eat whole, healthy, real food" wouldn't bring out the worst in people. But it does every single time.5
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