Runners advice please
scarlet67
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I can run up to 10k and want to do a half marathon next year. Should I concentrate on speed or distance. I use a treadmill but seem to run further outdoors
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TavistockToad wrote: »distance...
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I second distance. You will be surprised how much your speed increases naturally when you add in more time on your feet. If you have been running longer than 6 months you can start playing around with speed work though...doing strides, fartleks, or just do a very hilly route once a week.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »distance...
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Distance to 10 miles increasing in 10% increments from where you are.
Utilise the principles of FITT to improve one of the following by 10% at a time
Frequency …refers to the frequency of exercise undertaken or how often you exercise.
Intensity …refers to the intensity of exercise undertaken or how hard you exercise. Race pace/recovery pace/comfortable pace
Time …refers to the time you spend exercising or how long you exercise for.
Type …refers to the type of exercise undertaken or what kind of exercise you do. Fartlek/Intervals/Long Steady Run
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Thanks everyone... distance it is
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Depending on when it is next year you may have time to build in some speed work but I'm with the others......distance first. Your goal for your first HM is to cross the finish line with a smile on your face (it's my favourite race distance)0
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Distance/endurance. There are great 10k training apps out there for both indoors and outdoors.0
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+1 for distance. That said, I would want to put a bullet in my head if I had to run further than 15K on a treadmill.
Good luck; the jump from 10 to 21 is a lot easier than 0-3 or 3-5.1 -
Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.
yup and i do it regularly - do what you got to do at times - i maxed out at 18miles on the treadmill during IM training last year (had to be at a 0700 mtg, so i was on it at 3am...i'm insane, but i'm not runnign outside then)0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.
yup and i do it regularly - do what you got to do at times - i maxed out at 18miles on the treadmill during IM training last year (had to be at a 0700 mtg, so i was on it at 3am...i'm insane, but i'm not runnign outside then)
:flowerforyou: you're hard core!!!0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.
yup and i do it regularly - do what you got to do at times - i maxed out at 18miles on the treadmill during IM training last year (had to be at a 0700 mtg, so i was on it at 3am...i'm insane, but i'm not runnign outside then)
:flowerforyou: you're hard core!!!
well a soft and fluffy core
but its awesome mental training...i've also done 6hr bike trainer rides starting at 9pm because it had to get done 1 -
deannalfisher wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.
yup and i do it regularly - do what you got to do at times - i maxed out at 18miles on the treadmill during IM training last year (had to be at a 0700 mtg, so i was on it at 3am...i'm insane, but i'm not runnign outside then)
:flowerforyou: you're hard core!!!
well a soft and fluffy core but its awesome mental training...i've also done 6hr bike trainer rides starting at 9pm because it had to get done
absolutely, and exactly the reason that a half is my maximum running distance (for now anyway) - i dont have the dedication to train for more.0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »
well a soft and fluffy core but its awesome mental training...i've also done 6hr bike trainer rides starting at 9pm because it had to get done
Uggggghhh I had to do a few three hour trainer rides by myself in the last bit leading up to my IM and I couldn't possibly do more without at least having a partner to chat with.0 -
Have you looked at HM training programs? I like the Hal Higdon plans. I'm the kind of person who needs a plan to follow, box to check, etc.1
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Agree on distance. Something to keep in mind. When people say they want to be faster, it's often not really about top line speed. It's about holding a speed you can already do, just for longer, and that's more about stamina and legs getting used to the work. And those traits come with mileage. One week you may do a 4 mile run at 10 min pace. Next week, you try 950 pace...0
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Also to add---I did my first 10k back the beginning of September and decided to train for a HM after that. My 10k race pace was around 11:30 per mile, and my training pace had been well into the 12 mm. As I've simply run more as part of the HM plan, I'm closer to a 10:30 mm for the 10k distance without much intentional speed work throughout the training. I do some fartlek drills a few times a week, running faster between certain milestones on my path (tree to tree, post to post kind of thing) and that might have helped, also. You'll naturally get faster the more miles you do.1
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i am a newbie(ish) runner and i improved my HM time by 6 minutes just by increasing my mileage (slow easy miles) and adding in a bit of cycling for cross training. i think i have done speedwork maybe twice this year!1
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TavistockToad wrote: »i am a newbie(ish) runner and i improved my HM time by 6 minutes just by increasing my mileage (slow easy miles) and adding in a bit of cycling for cross training. i think i have done speedwork maybe twice this year!
Speaking of speedwork, I have an anecdote: Ran a sub-20 5K last fall having put in a bunch of speedwork on top of training for a half-IM. Then I did my full IM this August and coasted for the better part of a month after with only minimal running, and no speedwork at all. Ran that same 5K again this September and only added about 20 seconds to my time.
So the big chunk of distance I put in on the IM training helped me keep up speed at that 5 - I might have been faster with some speedwork but I'm not convinced it would have been a giant impact.0 -
brendanwhite84 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »
well a soft and fluffy core but its awesome mental training...i've also done 6hr bike trainer rides starting at 9pm because it had to get done
Uggggghhh I had to do a few three hour trainer rides by myself in the last bit leading up to my IM and I couldn't possibly do more without at least having a partner to chat with.
i keep a TV show that is ONLY for trainer rides - so that keeps me engaged, plus i use trainer road for more structured training (I also have to drive like 30min to get anywhere kind of safe to ride outside and even further if i want hills to train on)0 -
Thank you all so much for your advice
I'm gonna keep going for distance and try to get out running as opposed to the treadmill. Have a great day wherever in the world you are 1 -
I find it easier to run outdoors, but I use the TM when I have to. Mine seems to be calibrated a bit fast, so I have to be careful to go much slower on the TM than outdoors. It does make my first outdoor runs after a rainy spell seem remarkably fast. FWIW, I've done 20 mile runs on the TM. A good movie can make the time pass quite pleasantly.0
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stanmann571 wrote: »Distance.... and get thee outdoors.
+1 on doing long time/distance indoors on a dreadmill being a trigger for insanity.
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If it's your first half, I too would say concentrate on getting the distance in.
Some strength training is a good idea too - stronger legs and arms will mean less fatigue and faster pace (unless in the DOMS time range during run).0 -
Build your base...... distance......0
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