Yoyoer needing help

GottaBurnEmAll · October 2017

size102b wrote: »

VintageFeline wrote: »

When you say you are having trouble. How much are you losing? When did you last see a loss on the scale? There's clearly nothing wrong with your metabolism if you're still able to drop 28lbs in 11 weeks as you did earlier this year. I rather imagine this is an issue of expectations.

I wish people read my post

On a vlcd you lose 3-5 lbs a week
I lost water weight week 1 = 9lbs
Weeks 2-11 I lost 19lbs is should of been a minimum of 30lbs to 50 lbs

Eat 650 calories a day in ketosis and you will lose much more than 1-2 lbs a week.

I lost 2.5 lbs 3 weeks ago when I switched to low carb = water weight
Then 0.5 lbs
Then gained 2 lbs this week in strict 1200 calories but I had a period and I dont have then as I have a coil to stop me bleeding to death.

It's not expectations it's I'm not losing weight as I should 3 weeks I've lost 1 lbs

You need to learn the difference between fat gain and water weight and not be afraid of the scale moving around.

You have very disordered thinking, and are accusatory against people trying to teach you because you think you know everything.

You don't know everything, you don't offer full explanations and type in half sentences and at this point I doubt anyone really knows what you want because you rebuff anything you're told.

Stop it with the VLCDs.

It's not your metabolism. Anorexics the world over recover just fine.

It's not perimenopause. That affects water weight fluctuations like crazy, but doesn't make fat loss harder.

Read the forum stickies and learn how weight loss works and start dieting properly.

vingogly · October 2017

As far as I understand, reverse dieting is a technique used by body builders and involves slowly increasing calorie intake to maintenance. Which is pretty much how transition to maintenance should be done anyway, rather than instantaneously ramping up on calories. Sounds like bro science to me.

I started putting on weight at the age of seven or eight, and struggled with it over most of my life. I had periods of a number of years when I'd get down to healthy weight, then it would come on again. I'm 70 going on 71 and have now kept my weight down for several years - by seeing this as a permanent lifestyle change rather than a "diet".

I'm convinced the reasons why so many yo-yo diet are:

1. "Dieting" is artificially setting aside a time in your life called "dieting time"
2. Eventually you'll return to "normal time" when you're not "dieting"
3. The reason you get fat is that you're doing things wrong in "normal time"
4. The reasons why you do things wrong in "normal time" are behavioral

This means you have to turn your head around and address the behavioral problems - the reasons why you get into trouble - if you're going to succeed long term. You have to see it as a permanent behavioral change rather than as a time-limited diet.

Take a look at the Beck Diet Solution (Judith Beck) - a cognitive behavioral approach to modifying the dysfunctional behaviors associated with eating. There are books as well as websites devoted to it.

changeconsumeme · October 2017

Whelp, it sure sounds like you have it all down pat and don't need anyone else's advice, so why the hell ask for it?

GottaBurnEmAll · October 2017

I got my venting post out of the way, but it wasn't really helpful.

What's clear to me from the fact that you weigh 190 pounds is that you don't really have any idea how to eat that isn't in some way problematic.

You're all or nothing.

You cycle between eating unrestricted and putting on weight then taking it off with very low calorie diets.

Isn't it clear to you that this cycle of behavior needs to stop?

The real solution for you is a total lifestyle overhaul and a formation of healthy habits that will lead to a healing of your relationship with food.

This might mean taking your laser focus off the scale and staying a certain size for a while.

Focus instead on the behaviors you engage in when you gain weight and what choices you're making then that sabotage you and what you can do to fix them. Can you make healthier food choices? Can you decrease portions of certain items? Can you switch certain things for others?

Diets shouldn't be something you continually cycle on and off of. You should be able to find a way of eating an appropriate amount of calories that's sustainable.

Honestly, I think the healthiest path for you would be to lose weight very slowly. Pick a goal weight, find the maintenance calories at that weight, and eat a diet of healthy foods at that caloric level to lose your weight.

Stop focusing on diet as something you "do" and then stop doing and start thinking of weight as something you manage or take care of just like you take care of your hair and nails.

VintageFeline · October 2017

To add to the above. This is one of those times I recommend weighing less. Get off the scale and stay off. 3 weeks is nothing, with VLCD you were used to seeing rapid changes in scale weight but when dieting "properly" this just isn't going to happen. And by your own admittance you've just had you first period in ages and are perimenopausal. The scale is going to fly about wildly and you can't handle this at all it seems.

bibliocephalus · October 2017

PAV8888 wrote: »

<hint: stop thinking along the lines of getting it over and done with. stop thinking along the lines of dieting. spend the next few years developing a way of eating you can keep doing forever. Lose slowly without white knuckling or excessive effort. You just might discover by year two or three that you'll have a better grasp of what you will need to do during the rest of your life in order to keep the weight off. >

^^This is probably the single most important piece of advice I have read on MFP. I am near your age, and, after years of yoyoing finally met my goal of a 50lb loss in about a year, the "trick" for me was to acknowledge that it really is a marathon, not a sprint. I am only able to be successful if I set reasonable goals, and focus on maintaining sustainable habits for the long-run. It was hard to see such slow progress, but I so far I am into year two of staying within 5 lbs +/- of my goal weight. I hope that this helps a little.

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