Switched from coffee to green tea!
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Again, everyone is concentrating on one aspect or another of this switch and I look at it as a cumulative gain in variables. I didn't like what coffee the way I like it was doing for my health, personally. I feel I made the better choice. Whatever works for you. I love coffee but I made a change for my personal plan and I like what I see. Everyone should be more concerned with sticking to their plan for change and not knocking others.11
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jaimestewart1980 wrote: »Again, everyone is concentrating on one aspect or another of this switch and I look at it as a cumulative gain in variables. I didn't like what coffee the way I like it was doing for my health, personally. I feel I made the better choice. Whatever works for you. I love coffee but I made a change for my personal plan and I like what I see. Everyone should be more concerned with sticking to their plan for change and not knocking others.
Hey my question was honest and legit, I really want to know the studied benefits of Manuka honey over others. If they are proven and beneficial I might want to add it to my coffee......sorry I hate tea.4 -
I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.4 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.
Protein powder in coffee, that is either the most disgusting combination ever, or absolutely brilliant.........either way I'm gonna try it
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jaimestewart1980 wrote: »Again, everyone is concentrating on one aspect or another of this switch and I look at it as a cumulative gain in variables. I didn't like what coffee the way I like it was doing for my health, personally. I feel I made the better choice. Whatever works for you. I love coffee but I made a change for my personal plan and I like what I see. Everyone should be more concerned with sticking to their plan for change and not knocking others.
Unfortunately, you also saidjaimestewart1980 wrote: »Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
You recommended everyone cut out coffee, mentioning that cutting out white sugar is nutritionally beneficial and that coffee doesn't count as water but green tea does. Most of the responses are responding to that in particular.
It's great that you made a change that is making you feel better! We do however like to point out incorrect info so newbies don't go chasing their tails. If you were a friend of mine, I would tell you to ditch the special honey, it's health benefits are being touted to wring extra money out of people. But if you have the money to spend, do what you think you need to do. Coffee has some great health benefits too, and it's pretty easy to get enough water without worrying about whether my coffee counts or not, so I feel like my morning cuppa fits perfectly in my healthy lifestyle.
Did you try the green tea without honey? It can be an acquired taste for some, but it's really a lovely flavor. I actually prefer it with mint rather than any extra sweetness, taste-wise :drinker:10 -
I made a recommendation as a layman.Take it or leave it. I'm not pouring green tea down anyone's throat. Enjoy your coffee, black or however you please.11
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I certainly didn't say I was a doctor or a professional giving a recommendation. Do people feel threatened by recommendations these days?..... And yes that's a rhetorical question so please no tangent thread about butthurt feelings because I will not waste my time on that dialogue.11
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if i stop drinking coffee, i start killing people.
tempting as that may be, coffee it is.6 -
emmydoodles83 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.
Protein powder in coffee, that is either the most disgusting combination ever, or absolutely brilliant.........either way I'm gonna try it
You have to mix it well. I put it in a glass blender (glass because of the heat). Still, I will acknowledge that some protein powder usually settles before I drink it all. It usually takes about 1.5-2 hrs. to drink 30 oz. coffee and 1 scoop protein powder.0 -
black coffee w/ cinnamon is my stuff. some soy milk if i'm out at a coffee shop and feeling wild. or a cappuccino.2
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jaimestewart1980 wrote: »One huge nutritional change I have made recently is to stop drinking coffee. I personally like my coffee with heavy 18% cream and two tsp of sugar, a 'double double' as we say in Canada. Sometimes I would drink 2 or 3 a day and it really adds up. Now I have changed over to green tea and its way better not only because I can add honey to it but because it counts towards my daily water intake. Cutting cream out is paying off in how I feel during the day (and I don't have dairy issues at all it's just that it is so fattening). Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
Why would I try it?? I drink my coffee black, so its like 2 calories anyway. And why is the term "Double Double" exclusive to Canada?
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jaimestewart1980 wrote: »Again, everyone is concentrating on one aspect or another of this switch and I look at it as a cumulative gain in variables. I didn't like what coffee the way I like it was doing for my health, personally. I feel I made the better choice. Whatever works for you. I love coffee but I made a change for my personal plan and I like what I see. Everyone should be more concerned with sticking to their plan for change and not knocking others.
what was it doing to your health that tea and honey wont?2 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »emmydoodles83 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.
Protein powder in coffee, that is either the most disgusting combination ever, or absolutely brilliant.........either way I'm gonna try it
You have to mix it well. I put it in a glass blender (glass because of the heat). Still, I will acknowledge that some protein powder usually settles before I drink it all. It usually takes about 1.5-2 hrs. to drink 30 oz. coffee and 1 scoop protein powder.
Thanks, I like this, I am always looking for new ways to get my protein in!0 -
jaimestewart1980 wrote: »
Actually, there’s no difference at all. Your body doesn’t know what “Manuka” is and doesn’t care how much you paid for that “high grade” honey. It sees simple carbs coming in, and it processes them just like it processes any other source of simple carbs.jaimestewart1980 wrote: »I should mention that I use a high grade Manuka honey so there is quite a big difference between that and white sugar.
If you think there is no difference between Manuka honey and white sugar that's too bad. It seems all you are looking at is carbs when there is so much more involved.
It's got slight antibacterial properties in-vitro but that seems to be about it.0 -
A lot of people don't really like coffee but they really like the stuff they put in the coffee so it doesn't taste like coffee.
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While I do drink a large amount of tea (green and black) I need to have at least 1 cup of coffee in the morning. But good for you!! Kudos
I think OPs gotten it at this point, but for anyone else just stumbling upon this thread...
1.) coffee is not harmful or bad on the contrary it also contains some compounds found to be beneficial (like polyphenols and flavanoids).
2.) honey is not better for you than regular sugar (especially not a "big difference").
table sugar or "sucrose" is a disaccharide made up of 50% glucose and 50% fructose
Honey contains different levels of the following depending on where it's harvested: the monosaccharides fructose and glucose (p.s. these are the sugars which make up sucrose); and the disaccharides sucrose, maltose, isomaltose, maltulose, turanose and kojibiose.
3.) Dietary is not fattening unless you're consuming too many calories.
4.) You don't need to worry about not counting coffee, tea, sodas, etc. for your water intake. So long as you're staying hydrated and peeing mostly clear you can be rest assured you're drinking enough water.
Regardless, i'm glad OP found a way to reduce their calorie intake while still providing an enjoyeable drinking experience.
I'm also a tea drinker and probably drink 4-5 cups of varying teas (black, herbal, red) each day. 14 -
I drink my coffee black. I drink my coffee with skim milk. I drink my coffee as espresso. I drink my coffee with more coffee. I drink my coffee with full fat milk. I drink my coffee with sugar. I drink my coffee with hot water. I drink my coffee with chocolate. I simply want to drink my coffee!
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »jaimestewart1980 wrote: »One huge nutritional change I have made recently is to stop drinking coffee. I personally like my coffee with heavy 18% cream and two tsp of sugar, a 'double double' as we say in Canada. Sometimes I would drink 2 or 3 a day and it really adds up. Now I have changed over to green tea and its way better not only because I can add honey to it but because it counts towards my daily water intake. Cutting cream out is paying off in how I feel during the day (and I don't have dairy issues at all it's just that it is so fattening). Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
Why would I try it?? I drink my coffee black, so its like 2 calories anyway. And why is the term "Double Double" exclusive to Canada?
Because in the Southwestern U.S., a "Double Double" is a delicious burger from In-N-Out Burger. Two beef patties, two slices of cheese. And it has no sugar, cream or Manuka honey.14 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »jaimestewart1980 wrote: »One huge nutritional change I have made recently is to stop drinking coffee. I personally like my coffee with heavy 18% cream and two tsp of sugar, a 'double double' as we say in Canada. Sometimes I would drink 2 or 3 a day and it really adds up. Now I have changed over to green tea and its way better not only because I can add honey to it but because it counts towards my daily water intake. Cutting cream out is paying off in how I feel during the day (and I don't have dairy issues at all it's just that it is so fattening). Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
Why would I try it?? I drink my coffee black, so its like 2 calories anyway. And why is the term "Double Double" exclusive to Canada?
Because in the Southwestern U.S., a "Double Double" is a delicious burger from In-N-Out Burger. Two beef patties, two slices of cheese. And it has no sugar, cream or Manuka honey.
You eatin' that animal style?0 -
KeithWhiteJr wrote: »jaimestewart1980 wrote: »One huge nutritional change I have made recently is to stop drinking coffee. I personally like my coffee with heavy 18% cream and two tsp of sugar, a 'double double' as we say in Canada. Sometimes I would drink 2 or 3 a day and it really adds up. Now I have changed over to green tea and its way better not only because I can add honey to it but because it counts towards my daily water intake. Cutting cream out is paying off in how I feel during the day (and I don't have dairy issues at all it's just that it is so fattening). Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
Why would I try it?? I drink my coffee black, so its like 2 calories anyway. And why is the term "Double Double" exclusive to Canada?
Because in the Southwestern U.S., a "Double Double" is a delicious burger from In-N-Out Burger. Two beef patties, two slices of cheese. And it has no sugar, cream or Manuka honey.
You eatin' that animal style?
Sometimes even with animal style fries!
Not usually with a cup of coffee though.4 -
jaimestewart1980 wrote: »Well in general, given how I like my coffee, switching was a healthier choice for me. To each their own.
This is true.
I switched to black (it took a fair amount of training), but once in a while I do love coffee done up to the point it tastes like coffee ice cream.1 -
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Quit while you're ahead, OP. Spend your time finding yourself a new naturopath...4
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emmydoodles83 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.
Protein powder in coffee, that is either the most disgusting combination ever, or absolutely brilliant.........either way I'm gonna try it
@emmydoodles83, try a collagen for mixing in to hot drinks - whey clumps with the heat.
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »emmydoodles83 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I drink coffee for the safety of everyone else.
I add protein powder to my coffee as a way to try to reach my daily protein needs. If the rest of my diet changes and/or my macro needs change, I'll either switch to black coffee or start adding something with fat (such as cream)... depending on what macro-nutrient changes are needed. In addition to a necessary caffeine fix, I use coffee as a way to deliver the nutrients I lack in the rest of my diet. If I were otherwise reaching macronutrient needs, I would just drink it black.
Sometimes I drink green tea as a warm afternoon beverage, but I do not add any calories to it when I do.
Protein powder in coffee, that is either the most disgusting combination ever, or absolutely brilliant.........either way I'm gonna try it
@emmydoodles83, try a collagen for mixing in to hot drinks - whey clumps with the heat.
@livingleanlivingclean, Thanks for the tip, clumps might have put me off.0 -
girlwithcurls2 wrote: »Quit while you're ahead, OP. Spend your time finding yourself a new naturopath...
Or better yet stay away from naturopaths entirely.8 -
jaimestewart1980 wrote: »Green teas count toward water intake but black teas and coffee don't. That's what my naturopath told me.
What! You mean the water I add to my coffee maker really isn't water? Or does the coffee maker change the H20 into something else completely?13 -
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KeithWhiteJr wrote: »jaimestewart1980 wrote: »One huge nutritional change I have made recently is to stop drinking coffee. I personally like my coffee with heavy 18% cream and two tsp of sugar, a 'double double' as we say in Canada. Sometimes I would drink 2 or 3 a day and it really adds up. Now I have changed over to green tea and its way better not only because I can add honey to it but because it counts towards my daily water intake. Cutting cream out is paying off in how I feel during the day (and I don't have dairy issues at all it's just that it is so fattening). Also no refined white sugar is an ideal situation nutritionally. All of that combined with the health benefits of green tea as an antioxidant made it an easy choice. I've been off coffee for 3 weeks now and I would recommend everyone try it! Feel free to add me.
Why would I try it?? I drink my coffee black, so its like 2 calories anyway. And why is the term "Double Double" exclusive to Canada?
Because in the Southwestern U.S., a "Double Double" is a delicious burger from In-N-Out Burger. Two beef patties, two slices of cheese. And it has no sugar, cream or Manuka honey.
Whats In-N-Out Burger??? We don't have that here in the Northeastern part of the U.S. where I live, but, we do have "Double Double" coffee at Tim Horton's.1 -
stevencloser wrote: »girlwithcurls2 wrote: »Quit while you're ahead, OP. Spend your time finding yourself a new naturopath...
Or better yet stay away from naturopaths entirely.
I'm always so surprised when someone admits, in public, that they are paying a pseudoscientific charlatan to give them health advice. Heck, the wiki site for Naturopathy.... "The ideology and methods of naturopathy are based on vitalism and folk medicine, rather than evidence-based medicine.[1] Naturopathic practitioners generally recommend against modern medical practices, including but not limited to medical testing, drugs, vaccinations, and surgery.[2][3][4][5] Instead, naturopathic study and practice rely on unscientific notions, often leading naturopathic doctors to diagnoses and treatments that have no factual merit.[6][7]"
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