Simulation of Growth Trajectories of Childhood Obesity into Adulthood

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  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    Next stop "national healthcare crisis"
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    I think you're going to have a hard time finding an opponent for this debate. The writing on the wall is pretty clear.
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  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    Do you have an opinion on the article you would like to debate? Otherwise, there's really nothing to say.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    I'll try to get the ball rolling.

    When I was a kid, my brother and I had bikes, and used them to roam. If we wanted to visit a friend and couldn't harass one of the parents into driving us, we would ride bikes to get there. Our parents would call our friends' parents when it was time for us to come home. Nowadays, they'd be arrested for negligence.
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    I really dislike the focus we are putting on children's BMI.

    We should be putting the focus on encouraging children and their families to eat more fresh foods and increase physical exercise.
    Help educate them on calorific requirements and basic cooking skills. Teach them about proteins and fats etc.
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  • asviles
    asviles Posts: 56 Member
    suzannesimmons3 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    I'll try to get the ball rolling.

    When I was a kid, my brother and I had bikes, and used them to roam. If we wanted to visit a friend and couldn't harass one of the parents into driving us, we would ride bikes to get there. Our parents would call our friends' parents when it was time for us to come home. Nowadays, they'd be arrested for negligence.

    I rode a bike, walked everywhere I was still a chubby kid and turned into a chubby teen and an obese adult....why....I ate too much to even at that age to medicate from a *kitten* life.

    Twinsies!
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    cbryer101 wrote: »
    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1703860

    Thanks for the science source behind the press article the other day that I read on the subject. It has to start with we adults being better role models.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    suzannesimmons3 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    I'll try to get the ball rolling.

    When I was a kid, my brother and I had bikes, and used them to roam. If we wanted to visit a friend and couldn't harass one of the parents into driving us, we would ride bikes to get there. Our parents would call our friends' parents when it was time for us to come home. Nowadays, they'd be arrested for negligence.

    I rode a bike, walked everywhere I was still a chubby kid and turned into a chubby teen and an obese adult....why....I ate too much to even at that age to medicate from a *kitten* life.

    I knew a guy who smoked cigarettes and lived into his 90s. That doesn't mean you should start smoking.

    Do you think you would have been less chubby if everything was the same except you didn't have a bike? Are you saying that burning more calories will have zero effect on obesity in the aggregate? Because that kind of flies in face if CICO.

    Common sense is ok.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I was a slim kid but my brother was a bit overweight. We were both active but he was much more of an athlete than I was - playing multiple sports, winning city wide titles and top player awards. He was also more active in his spare time: he liked to play physical whereas I read a lot and did art. I was always much slimmer than him though.

    Same parents, same house, same walk to school and we're only 22 months apart. He was a chubby kid and a slightly chubby adult. I was slim kid and a normal or fat adult depending on what years you look at.
  • dancefit2015
    dancefit2015 Posts: 236 Member
    I remember when I was a bit chubby as a kid and went to the doctor. I didn't really know what it was at the time, probably a BMI chart, but I remember the doctor showing me that compared to other children of my height and age I was *here* (pointing above the average) I never thought about weight or felt insecure about my body before that. I remained a little chubby until about 13 when I had a growth spurt. At 5'11" I was nearly under weight. I wasted a lot of time worrying about my size when my body knew what it was doing. I wish I never would've seen that chart or joined in on ridiculous diets with my mom because those insecurities never went away.
    I agree with some other things that were said about disliking BMI's with children and that families should promote being active and eating good portion sizes. Not dieting and accidentally turning your children into insecure messes.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    dancefit2015 wrote: »
    I remember when I was a bit chubby as a kid and went to the doctor. I didn't really know what it was at the time, probably a BMI chart, but I remember the doctor showing me that compared to other children of my height and age I was *here* (pointing above the average) I never thought about weight or felt insecure about my body before that. I remained a little chubby until about 13 when I had a growth spurt. At 5'11" I was nearly under weight. I wasted a lot of time worrying about my size when my body knew what it was doing. I wish I never would've seen that chart or joined in on ridiculous diets with my mom because those insecurities never went away.
    I agree with some other things that were said about disliking BMI's with children and that families should promote being active and eating good portion sizes. Not dieting and accidentally turning your children into insecure messes.

    A parent should have a pretty good idea of their kids growth cycles. My kids always get chubby just prior to a growth spurt. And then once it's done they're an inch or two taller and practically gaunt. So if they go for a checkup just prior to a growth spurt their BMI will be a fair bit higher than after.
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