Plant base
QueenShapeshifter505
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I am on a plant-based New Journey and I gradually had to get here i cut out all red meats and mostly ate chicken and fish then I cut out the chicken now I am all veggies and I still get my protein I was amazed after a lot of research into this process of how many plant-based items have a lot of protein in them spirulina and chlorella to name a couple I get all my nutrition and vitamins every day which I cannot go without I have more energy than I could ever imagine with taking this meat out I feel more healthier and clear and it took me 6 months to get here to where I can just eat veggies and can't wait for the journey to keep going right now I'm in between raw and steaming sauteing my veggies my goal My overall goal is to be raw 100% the benefits are phenomenal and I'm making great process for my health
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When you say you're just eating veggies, does that also include things like fruits, grains, and beans . . . or are you eating just vegetables?
How did you decide on the goal to be 100% raw? Cooked foods have a lot of benefits with some nutrients being more available to us in cooked food.8 -
Vegan is what i mean by plant base i should of added that in there0
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janejellyroll wrote: »When you say you're just eating veggies, does that also include things like fruits, grains, and beans . . . or are you eating just vegetables?
How did you decide on the goal to be 100% raw? Cooked foods have a lot of benefits with some nutrients being more available to us in cooked food.
Yes foods cooked at the right temperature can release a lot of benefits that raw foods cannot it's just when the temperature is past a certain degree lots of nutrition are lost in the process of cooking and Heating those Foods up but certain type of metals can be very bad for your vegetables in the process of even cooking it to release those benefits
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I strongly, strongly recommend reading a book on vegan nutrition written by a registered dietitian. A few good ones are:
Vegan For Life by Norris and Messina
Vegan For her by Messina
Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition) by Davis and Melina (be sure to get the updated version of this one).8 -
There's absolutely no benefit to going 100% raw. Many people eventually got sick doing it though.6
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MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »There's absolutely no benefit to going 100% raw. Many people eventually got sick doing it though.
To say there is no benefits is absolutely very incorrect I have family members that have been raw and they are in Better Health than many people in my life that I have met it's not what you do it's how you do it10 -
I strongly, strongly recommend reading a book on vegan nutrition written by a registered dietitian. A few good ones are:
Vegan For Life by Norris and Messina
Vegan For her by Messina
Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition) by Davis and Melina (be sure to get the updated version of this one).
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MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »There's absolutely no benefit to going 100% raw. Many people eventually got sick doing it though.
Seconding this. I know a few people who've gone raw. Two of them ended up in the hospital. A few more started feeling sick. None of them is still eating a fully raw diet.
Not from food-borne illness, but from malnutrition in one case and an intestinal blockage in the other. Our bodies have evolved to depend on cooking food to help with our digestion (softening foods, releasing nutrients for better absorption), and going to 100% raw foods is too much; the human body cannot break down the food.3 -
I strongly, strongly recommend reading a book on vegan nutrition written by a registered dietitian. A few good ones are:
Vegan For Life by Norris and Messina
Vegan For her by Messina
Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition) by Davis and Melina (be sure to get the updated version of this one).
Ginny Messina also has a website, http://www.theveganrd.com/. She gives excellent science-based advice.3 -
QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »When you say you're just eating veggies, does that also include things like fruits, grains, and beans . . . or are you eating just vegetables?
How did you decide on the goal to be 100% raw? Cooked foods have a lot of benefits with some nutrients being more available to us in cooked food.
Yes foods cooked at the right temperature can release a lot of benefits that raw foods cannot it's just when the temperature is past a certain degree lots of nutrition are lost in the process of cooking and Heating those Foods up but certain type of metals can be very bad for your vegetables in the process of even cooking it to release those benefits
Some nutrients are lost when foods are heated. Other nutrients become more available. This is why I believe a variety of cooked and raw foods is probably best for us overall. But if your goal is to become 100% raw, you'd be getting the benefits of raw foods with none of the benefits of cooked foods. You'd also be eliminating many nutritious foods from your diet.6 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
Some nutrients are lost when foods are heated. Other nutrients become more available. This is why I believe a variety of cooked and raw foods is probably best for us overall. But if your goal is to become 100% raw, you'd be getting the benefits of raw foods with none of the benefits of cooked foods. You'd also be eliminating many nutritious foods from your diet.
Tomatoes are a really good example of this. When you cook tomatoes, there is a small loss of vitamin C, but a big increase in available lycopene, an important antioxidant: http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2002/04/cooking-tomatoes-boosts-disease-fighting-power
Adding oil to your cooked tomatoes even helps your body absorb more of that lycopene: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15927929
Carrots work similarly--cooking them increases the available beta-carotene your body can absorb, but with a small vitamin C loss: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14673607
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janejellyroll wrote: »
Some nutrients are lost when foods are heated. Other nutrients become more available. This is why I believe a variety of cooked and raw foods is probably best for us overall. But if your goal is to become 100% raw, you'd be getting the benefits of raw foods with none of the benefits of cooked foods. You'd also be eliminating many nutritious foods from your diet.
Tomatoes are a really good example of this. When you cook tomatoes, there is a small loss of vitamin C, but a big increase in available lycopene, an important antioxidant: http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2002/04/cooking-tomatoes-boosts-disease-fighting-power
Adding oil to your cooked tomatoes even helps your body absorb more of that lycopene: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15927929
Carrots work similarly--cooking them increases the available beta-carotene your body can absorb, but with a small vitamin C loss: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14673607
And to piggyback on this, for people eating fruit and vegetables regularly, a small loss of vitamin C isn't going to be a big deal at all because they're likely getting sufficient C from the rest of the food they're eating.2 -
I get all my nutient and vitamins each day thats all that matter...i dont care what yall friends did they did it WRONGGGG14
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Whelp, I guess you know everything. Best of luck.11
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QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »I get all my nutient and vitamins each day thats all that matter...i dont care what yall friends did they did it WRONGGGG
How do you know that? Just because you may think you're eating foods in varieties and quantities to provide sufficient nutrients, how can you be sure that you are absorbing them?2 -
Brand new research into the number of nuclei in primate brains suggests the big human brain evolved because cooking food made more nutrients available - other large primates such as gorillas have substantially fewer cells in their cortexes than would be expected for their size compared to smaller primates, because running a large complex brain takes so much nutrition that they spend almost all their time eating, unlike humans who are able to absorb more nutrients from a greater variety of foods. Humans discovered fire a long, long time ago and there is no benefit to reversing the process!10
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QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »There's absolutely no benefit to going 100% raw. Many people eventually got sick doing it though.
To say there is no benefits is absolutely very incorrect I have family members that have been raw and they are in Better Health than many people in my life that I have met it's not what you do it's how you do it
Eh, I have vegan friends who went raw for a few months but ultimately found it unsustainable. We all lived in an ashram at the time, and had kitchen privileges, so they could just walk in and grab everything they needed - no shopping required. They sprouted legumes, etc., etc., did everything recommended, but still gave it up.
But I'm not hear to talk you out of anything you have your mind set on - come back in 6 months and give us an update.
Also, where are you located? If you're somewhere warm year round, you have a better chance of success. I'm in Massachusetts and shudder at the thought of eating raw all winter.4 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »I get all my nutient and vitamins each day thats all that matter...i dont care what yall friends did they did it WRONGGGG
How do you know that? Just because you may think you're eating foods in varieties and quantities to provide sufficient nutrients, how can you be sure that you are absorbing them?
My brother went to school for this and has a gym i know what im doing12 -
My friend has a degree in all this and owns a gym...soooooooo im good not to mention i years of studying and my brother is friends with pro basketballs players and and i get great tips8
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A certificate as a personal trainer is not the same as having a masters or doctorates in nutrition like the people who do actual studies as posted above. People touting their opinions as facts has hurt a lot of people and prevented them from getting healthy in a sustainable way. But whatever let us know how it is going in 6 months.3
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Is your friend with the degree the one who told you you're infested with parasites?6
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Is your friend with the degree the one who told you you're infested with parasites?
No1 -
A certificate as a personal trainer is not the same as having a masters or doctorates in nutrition like the people who do actual studies as posted above. People touting their opinions as facts has hurt a lot of people and prevented them from getting healthy in a sustainable way. But whatever let us know how it is going in 6 months.
Whos a personal trainer?0 -
QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »My friend has a degree in all this and owns a gym...soooooooo im good not to mention i years of studying and my brother is friends with pro basketballs players and and i get great tips
Gyms and pro basketballs are exercise/sports.1 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »My friend has a degree in all this and owns a gym...soooooooo im good not to mention i years of studying and my brother is friends with pro basketballs players and and i get great tips
Gyms and pro basketballs are exercise/sports.
I was just stating that...they have great nutrient coaches that give good tips5 -
QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »I get all my nutient and vitamins each day thats all that matter...i dont care what yall friends did they did it WRONGGGG
How do you know that? Just because you may think you're eating foods in varieties and quantities to provide sufficient nutrients, how can you be sure that you are absorbing them?
My brother went to school for this and has a gym i know what im doingQueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »My friend has a degree in all this and owns a gym...soooooooo im good not to mention i years of studying and my brother is friends with pro basketballs players and and i get great tips
Your brother or your friend?
Either way, what does your brother/friend have a degree in? "all this" is a fairly broad area of study... Not sure I've ever heard of a degree in raw food. Owning a gym and knowing some sports people aren't qualifications for anything either.7 -
My friends brother is a pro-basketballer. He packs away a whole family pizza to himself on the regular.
Are these athletes you know 100% raw?3 -
Looks like you know everything you need to know about nutrition, fitness and parasites. When will you be hosting an AMA?6
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About 20 years ago, I was a vegan for 3 years. I considered going raw. There is an institute in Puerto Rico (well it was still functioning before the hurricane) that specializes in it, that I was planning to attend. I never did it though. I'm an omnivore now. For me, I stopped being vegan because my lifestyle/city changed and I didn't have time to prepare my own food anymore, so it wasn't sustainable. Now I can't even imagine going back to vegan, let alone raw. But I wish you the best. Here's the link to the Ann Wigmore Institute in PR: https://annwigmore.org/0
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QueenShapeshifter505 wrote: »I get all my nutient and vitamins each day thats all that matter...i dont care what yall friends did they did it WRONGGGG
You're getting everything *now*, sure. But according to your OP, you aren't fully raw yet. That's what people are discussing -- meeting your nutritional goals on a diet that is 100% raw.3
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