Cheat days

I’m trying to eat healthy right now to lose weight, following a meal plan, but there are days where I literally can’t contain myself and I eat something I’m not supposed to, and I eat and eat and can’t stop,I’m a binge eater as you can imagine. But I go hard following my meal plan most of the days. I was just wondering if cheat days are that unhealthy? I’ve lost around 22 pounds and I don’t wanna gain it all back :( help please

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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    What is your weekly goal for weight loss on MFP. Maybe it is too aggressive and that triggers the binges.
  • trynashrink
    trynashrink Posts: 10 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    What is your weekly goal for weight loss on MFP. Maybe it is too aggressive and that triggers the binges.
    around 4 pounds a week

  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Yes, way too aggressive. How much do you have to lose? When your goal is too aggressive, it will cause compliance issues and that can cause binging.
  • GV81
    GV81 Posts: 2 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    Yes, way too aggressive. How much do you have to lose? When your goal is too aggressive, it will cause compliance issues and that can cause binging.

    This. If you need a cheat day then your plan is too aggressive. The best diet is the one you can maintain forever if need be.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    GV81 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Yes, way too aggressive. How much do you have to lose? When your goal is too aggressive, it will cause compliance issues and that can cause binging.

    This. If you need a cheat day then your plan is too aggressive. The best diet is the one you can maintain forever if need be.

    While I agree that 4 lbs is probably overly aggressive unless you are very obese and being monitored by a doctor, I totally disagree that having cheat days means your plan is too aggressive, or that having cheat days can't be maintained.

    I had cheat days the weekly while I was losing weight and continue to do so now that I'm in maintenance. I prefer to diet some days so that I can have high calorie days. It's very sustainable for me long term.
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    we all cheat.
  • JMcGee2018
    JMcGee2018 Posts: 275 Member
    One way to handle cheat days is to look at the deficit you need WEEKLY to lose weight. 4 pounds a week is too aggressive, but if you wanted to lose 2 a week you would need a deficit of 7k calories per week, which ends up being 1000 per day. If you know you'll need a cheat day, try to make your deficits on not cheat days greater than 1000 to compensate for that. As long as you're achieving a weekly deficit, it doesn't matter too much what happens on a particular day.
  • Falklang
    Falklang Posts: 220 Member
    I had KFC the other night, crisps the other day and crisps today...I'm still losing weight, but enjoying my life at the same time. It's all about moderation, portion size and correct choices whilst all being under your goal calories.
  • murp4069
    murp4069 Posts: 494 Member
    GV81 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Yes, way too aggressive. How much do you have to lose? When your goal is too aggressive, it will cause compliance issues and that can cause binging.

    This. If you need a cheat day then your plan is too aggressive. The best diet is the one you can maintain forever if need be.

    This. If you have a really hard time staying within a strict meal plan, consider simply just counting calories and eating what you want but eating those things in moderation to stay within your calorie goals.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    A couple of thoughts. I am huge proponent of 3 things when it comes to weight control, fitness and, well pretty much any other important area of life.
    Intentionallity
    Mindfulness
    Neuro-linguistic Programming.

    Coming from that point of view, I pretty much hate the term cheat day as it is a complete fail on all 3 fronts. It implies a lack of intentionallity and mindfulness and is about as negative neuro-linguistically as you can get.

    If one is going to eat more 1 or 2 days of the week, it should be with mindfulness and intentionallity. Along those line, there are so many more positive things it could be called. A refeed day. A weekly diet break. Calorie cycling.

    So much for my soapbox. To address the OPs concerns, they aren't just having a "cheat" day, they are having a binge day with uncontrolled eating. Not good. It's pretty clear that 4 lbs loss per week is a questionable approach that could lead to health problems and loss of valuable muscle mass.

    There is also the question of sustainability. What good does it do you to lose weight in a fashion where you don't learn the habits and eating methods that don't help to then transition to maintenance at a healthy weight?
  • DebLaBounty
    DebLaBounty Posts: 1,169 Member
    For me, losing 2 to 2.5 pounds a week was too aggressive. Despite weight lifting, I lost muscle mass in my arms. I also started losing my hair. I think MFP is set up for a maximum weight loss of two pounds a week. Eat some more, eat foods you like that are within your calorie allowance, and if you need an "eat anything I want" day once a week, force yourself to control your portions. If you are concerned that you binge out of control, talk to your doctor about a referral to a therapist.
  • Fitnessmom82
    Fitnessmom82 Posts: 376 Member
    Sounds like your goal of 4 pounds a week is too aggressive. The max amount on here is 2 pounds per week.
    As far as cheat days go- I "cheat" once a week. I can fit most of those cheat meals into my regular calorie goals if I really tried but when I want something indulgent I want to really enjoy it and not try to fit it in (which also would take a lot of calories and not leave a lot of room for the rest of my day). Allowing myself one "bad" meal a week also makes me think harder about the choices I make. For me, great pizza or a meatball sub are worth it. I won't grab a fast food burger because they are not worth the calories for me. I make sure whatever the meal is, it's some thing I really want that week. I also make my cheat day flexible. It's typically on Sunday but if I'm out and about or end up having a nice dinner somewhere I just move my day accordingly.
    I've lost 55 pounds this way and don't feel deprived. I never miss a cheat meal!
  • vampirequeen1959
    vampirequeen1959 Posts: 196 Member
    Are you following a meal plan that leaves you hungry or doesn't allow for treats?
  • melissawill2017
    melissawill2017 Posts: 1,131 Member
    First of all, I don't believe in "cheat days"; I totally understand the meaning and have used the terminology in the past, but I think "cheating" has a negative connotation so I choose to not look at food that way. You stated that sometimes you can't contain yourself and you eat foods that you aren't supposed to? Unless it's going to be detrimental to your health; a diabetic eating sugar for example, then you shouldn't look at foods in that way. I eat whatever I choose to as long as it stays within my calorie range for the day. Some days I am satisfied with grilled chicken and veggies and some days I want a cheeseburger with fries.. and that's ok!! It sounds like you have had great success; although I do agree that 4 pounds/week sounds excessive! Maybe you are being too restrictive and that is triggering your binges. We all want a quick and easy solution when it comes to weight loss, but a gradual loss is always best for sustained success! Good luck!
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    I do not do cheat days. I work my treats, such as they are into every day that I want them.
    I do not demonize foods.
    I do not consider this food good and that food bad.
    It all goes down to numbers and meeting my nutritional needs for fiber, fat, fiber, carbs, vitamins/minerals.

    Red wine is a definite must have for me. I do not restrict it - but I limit it now. I make sure to allow enough room MOST days (I don't have it EVERY day- but I do have it frequently) to have at least 6-8 oz in the evening before I go to bed. I also make sure I have met my protein, fat, and fiber goals (for the most part) for the day. By doing so, even at only 1440 or so calories a day - I rarely am hungry to the point that I want to binge on something. I may sometimes have a handful of candy or a snack at night knowing it's going to put me over my calories a little bit...

    I frequently choose to not eat certain foods because I decide the calories are NOT worth it for me. I pass up on a LOT of bread, pasta, and even pizza because I'd *rather* spend those calories on something else. BUT If I do eat a piece of pizza, I do not consider it "something I shouldn't have eaten." I log it, and move on. If I go over my calories for the day - I accept it - and get back on track the next. I also go by a weekly calorie goal - so some days, I may be over the 1440 per day by a couple hundred; the other days I will be under.

    As others have said - I do think 4lbs a week is excessively agressive unless you are under doctor's orders. Most people can lose 4lbs in a week once in a while (esp. water weight) - but not steadily.