Gaining weight when your tiny

I’m 50kg 5’5 and can’t for the life of my gain weight and weight train yet all I want to do is gain a stone and look ripped. Legs have potential arms are tiny and overall have a small frame. I need workout tips and meal tips ASAP. I need to stop eating rubbish and understand weights so much more. Any help will be massively appreciated x :)

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  • Davidsdottir
    Davidsdottir Posts: 1,285 Member
    I started 5 years ago at 5'5"ish and 114 lbs. I'm currently on bulk #4 and weigh 138 lbs with 18.7% body fat. It's possible, just eat and train.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Peanut butter and full fat milk...
  • samantharmaggard
    samantharmaggard Posts: 16 Member
    You need to eat a calorie surplus and lift, lift, lift.... heavy.
  • clbaft
    clbaft Posts: 11 Member
    edited January 2018
    I started 5 years ago at 5'5"ish and 114 lbs.

    I started the same height/weight around 7-8 months ago, I hope my progress is as good as yours in a few years!

    to OP: I had pretty much no muscle mass. I'm now ~125lbs and not much higher body fat - a bit softer because I don't clean bulk. You just need to eat at a surplus and lift progressively heavier weights.

    I saw no real progress in the beginning few months eating 1800 and doing baby lifts / machines because I was scared to eat enough and was too weak to do proper lifts.

    Compound lifts such as conventional Deadlifts (start with Romanian Deadlifts to strengthen your posterior chain and teach you how to hip hinge first, until you can do a reasonable weight safely) and Hip Thrusts will get you the big gains. Lat Pulldowns can be done as an absolute beginner but watch some videos for form on all of these. I can't barbell squat so I don't but obv it's a good exercise if you can! Split squats are a good alternative.

    Don't rush and above all - don't be afraid to eat ! A lot.
  • J_Fairfax
    J_Fairfax Posts: 57 Member
    you'll never get biceps if you don't do curls.

    but yeah, just persevere with the lifts, keep it going, lift heavy, do compound lifts, squats, deadlifts, benchpress, they'll increase your overall strength, and do a load of tricep pushdowns and bicep curls using cable machines, the constant tension you can get from these devices is fantastic.

    also also remember to eat enough protein, 1g per lb of target bodyweight.

    the absolute maximum you'll grow muscle as a natural lifter is like 2lbs a month, and that's absolute max. for someone with your light frame it's probably going to be lower, so just be patient.

    10lbs of lean muscle gained over the course of a year and you'll look a lot better!.
  • RC4655
    RC4655 Posts: 61 Member
    I got 20 1/2" biceps without doing curls. Heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, heavy bench press is all you need for big arms.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    J_Fairfax wrote: »
    you'll never get biceps if you don't do curls.

    but yeah, just persevere with the lifts, keep it going, lift heavy, do compound lifts, squats, deadlifts, benchpress, they'll increase your overall strength, and do a load of tricep pushdowns and bicep curls using cable machines, the constant tension you can get from these devices is fantastic.

    also also remember to eat enough protein, 1g per lb of target bodyweight.

    the absolute maximum you'll grow muscle as a natural lifter is like 2lbs a month, and that's absolute max. for someone with your light frame it's probably going to be lower, so just be patient.

    10lbs of lean muscle gained over the course of a year and you'll look a lot better!.
    I got 20 1/2" biceps without doing curls. Heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, heavy bench press is all you need for big arms.

    Unless you're looking for a competition stage body, curls are likely unnecessary
  • J_Fairfax
    J_Fairfax Posts: 57 Member
    edited February 2018
    mitch16 wrote: »
    OP is female. 2 lbs of muscle a month, naturally, is unlikely.

    very true

    Unless you're looking for a competition stage body, curls are likely unnecessary

    I'm not so sure, I think that curls and tricep pushdowns are useful for increasing arm strength and size in a shorter period of time than if you want them to grow indirectly as a result of work on the big three.

    the OP wants results quick, i think high volume curls and tricep pushdowns will yield quick results. like 5 sets of 20 reps starting at a light weight to really get a burn will have a big impact, and won't really interfere with the other lifts as they can be done after.

    you can't go heavy on the big 3 all the time as a novice lifter, so I think for the OPs needs some direct arm work would be useful.

    for legs I would actually also suggest things such as cycling in a spin class or using high resistance on an elliptical, you can get a real good burn in your legs and if you're not very athletic at the moment doing 30-40 mins on either of those three times a week or more - with a resistance that is challenging for you, will help develop the legs, and glutes, relatively quickly. Plus they will improve cardio and help shift weight.
  • J_Fairfax
    J_Fairfax Posts: 57 Member
    I got 20 1/2" biceps without doing curls. Heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, heavy bench press is all you need for big arms.

    v impressive, personally I like to curl in the squat rack

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djudFCJrpzU
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    J_Fairfax wrote: »
    you'll never get biceps if you don't do curls.

    lol ok
  • J_Fairfax
    J_Fairfax Posts: 57 Member
    J_Fairfax wrote: »
    you'll never get biceps if you don't do curls.

    lol ok

    haha, I know it's not strictly true.

    it's actually a line from a song I like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz1K-O2Yzos

    personally I have found that I have developed my arms much better when putting in direct work rather than just getting them worked indirectly through compound lifts, but everyone is different right and there are multiple ways to achieve results.
  • Emeraldreign
    Emeraldreign Posts: 56 Member
    I got 20 1/2" biceps without doing curls. Heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, heavy bench press is all you need for big arms.

    Or carry a really big kid around for a year and a half.
  • RC4655
    RC4655 Posts: 61 Member
    I got 20 1/2" biceps without doing curls. Heavy squats, heavy deadlifts, heavy bench press is all you need for big arms.

    Or carry a really big kid around for a year and a half.

    That will do it too :)
  • holdol87
    holdol87 Posts: 2 Member
    Thank you all!!! I’m eating sooooo much! Which is difficult for me but I am so determined!! I need a gym buddy! Or a PT! I have an idea of what I’m doing and reading books at night (whilst eating) about what to do in the gym the following day! Really appreciate all of your support! :)
  • Silkysausage
    Silkysausage Posts: 502 Member
    The advice to eat lots and lift heavy is good but when you're small like me... I'm a 115lbs, 160cm ectomorph, it can be difficult.

    Eat well, eat regularly and choose the best wholefoods to keep you going. Snack inbetween main meals or eat smaller meals throughout the day and evening.

    Protein shakes are great for protein, complex carbs, fresh fruit and veg. I have 2 of these bad boys a day using soy milk, frozen berries, banana, apple juice and pea protein powder.

    Good form when lifting is vital. I was moving my elbows too much the other day with 6kg dumbbells with hammer curls but my friend pointed that out! When proper form was used I had to go down to the 5's instead because of the burn!

    Plenty of water, rest and don't forget to eat some crap at least once a week ;)




  • RC4655
    RC4655 Posts: 61 Member
    The advice to eat lots and lift heavy is good but when you're small like me... I'm a 115lbs, 160cm ectomorph, it can be difficult.

    Eat well, eat regularly and choose the best wholefoods to keep you going. Snack inbetween main meals or eat smaller meals throughout the day and evening.

    Protein shakes are great for protein, complex carbs, fresh fruit and veg. I have 2 of these bad boys a day using soy milk, frozen berries, banana, apple juice and pea protein powder.

    Good form when lifting is vital. I was moving my elbows too much the other day with 6kg dumbbells with hammer curls but my friend pointed that out! When proper form was used I had to go down to the 5's instead because of the burn!

    Plenty of water, rest and don't forget to eat some crap at least once a week ;)




    Good form is vital as you said. Very critical to use proper form on every lift. Going heavy is relative. Heavy is usually a weight you can lift for 3 to 5 reps, leaving one or two reps in the tank. If your looking to gain mass. Bodybuilders typically use lighter weights for higher reps, which is great for physique. But if your goal is mass and strength, heavier weight for fewer reps is a better way to go. Heavy for you may mean using an empty 45 lb bar. It may mean using 500 lbs to someone else. Basic squats, bench and deadlifts for five sets with a weight you can barely lift, while maintaining good form, will do wonders for adding mass, as long as you are eating properly.
  • Silkysausage
    Silkysausage Posts: 502 Member
    The advice to eat lots and lift heavy is good but when you're small like me... I'm a 115lbs, 160cm ectomorph, it can be difficult.

    Eat well, eat regularly and choose the best wholefoods to keep you going. Snack inbetween main meals or eat smaller meals throughout the day and evening.

    Protein shakes are great for protein, complex carbs, fresh fruit and veg. I have 2 of these bad boys a day using soy milk, frozen berries, banana, apple juice and pea protein powder.

    Good form when lifting is vital. I was moving my elbows too much the other day with 6kg dumbbells with hammer curls but my friend pointed that out! When proper form was used I had to go down to the 5's instead because of the burn!

    Plenty of water, rest and don't forget to eat some crap at least once a week ;)




    Good form is vital as you said. Very critical to use proper form on every lift. Going heavy is relative. Heavy is usually a weight you can lift for 3 to 5 reps, leaving one or two reps in the tank. If your looking to gain mass. Bodybuilders typically use lighter weights for higher reps, which is great for physique. But if your goal is mass and strength, heavier weight for fewer reps is a better way to go. Heavy for you may mean using an empty 45 lb bar. It may mean using 500 lbs to someone else. Basic squats, bench and deadlifts for five sets with a weight you can barely lift, while maintaining good form, will do wonders for adding mass, as long as you are eating properly.

    Well put! And yes, it's all relative to each individual on how 'heavy' is.
  • Increase the fat and proteins in your diet and lower the carbohydrates. Do more reps, squats , body weight lifting and i am pretty sure that you gain weight very quickly. But in my suggesting if your height is short then slimer body looks more good than a fatty and healthy body.
  • Davidsdottir
    Davidsdottir Posts: 1,285 Member
    Increase the fat and proteins in your diet and lower the carbohydrates. Do more reps, squats , body weight lifting and i am pretty sure that you gain weight very quickly. But in my suggesting if your height is short then slimer body looks more good than a fatty and healthy body.

    Big load of B.S. here.
  • Silkysausage
    Silkysausage Posts: 502 Member
    Increase the fat and proteins in your diet and lower the carbohydrates. Do more reps, squats , body weight lifting and i am pretty sure that you gain weight very quickly. But in my suggesting if your height is short then slimer body looks more good than a fatty and healthy body.

    Big load of B.S. here.

    Yup :D