Help I'm lost

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  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    harley79 wrote: »
    I have done keto,Paleo,whole 30, WW blah blah


    Things that have taken me a long time to learn:
    • Forgive yourself for screwing up.
    • It's okay to crave and eat things that are bad for you (just dont do it regularly)
    • Weight loss takes a long time.
    • Motivation is fleeting. Fight through your desperation.
    • You WILL GAIN WEIGHT BACK. It's ok. We all do. It's ok. It's ok. It's ok. You can lose it again. Don't give up.


    ^^ this apart from the last one. I lost weight 5 years ago and never regained. So no, not everyone regains.

  • Momepro
    Momepro Posts: 1,509 Member
    harley79 wrote: »
    I have done keto,Paleo,whole 30, WW blah blah


    Things that have taken me a long time to learn:
    • Forgive yourself for screwing up.
    • It's okay to crave and eat things that are bad for you (just dont do it regularly)
    • Weight loss takes a long time.
    • Motivation is fleeting. Fight through your desperation.
    • You WILL GAIN WEIGHT BACK. It's ok. We all do. It's ok. It's ok. It's ok. You can lose it again. Don't give up.


    ^^ this apart from the last one. I lost weight 5 years ago and never regained. So no, not everyone regains.

    I think it is more general as in sometimes even with the best plan ever you gain back a few pounds now and again, ehether it is a temporary setback, or just that time of month, it is inevitable. But don't be discouraged when that happens, because if you stick to your nee habuts it will fix itself
  • ladyhusker39
    ladyhusker39 Posts: 1,406 Member
    harley79 wrote: »
    Hi I'm back yet once again I'm 47 and I'm a mom and a wife I weigh 313 and just can't seem to stick to anything. I have done keto,Paleo,whole 30, WW blah blah I'm just starting to feel hopeless. I'm so confused as to what works I heard calories in vs calories out is all a myth

    Tia Tammy

    The people who say CICO is a myth fall into two basic camps:

    1) Those connected to weight loss plans where there's money to be made attempting to confuse people so they think they need complicated advice/guidance to lose weight.

    2) People who mistakenly think CICO is "diet". It's not. It's a math equation. Nothing more. Nothing less.
    CI = CO is maintenance
    CI > CO is weight gain
    CI < CO is weight loss

    How you achieve the calorie balance is where the idea of "dieting" comes in to play in terms of particular ways of eating (CI) and/or exercising (CO).

    The math equation gets shortened to CICO for simplicity and because the middle symbol you add will depend on your goals.

    I also notice that CICO often gets confused with "Calorie Counting" which is something totally different. It's simply a way of determining your CI relative to your CO. You certainly don't need to count calories to lose weight; most people never do.

    But I for one (and there are many others here) find it very helpful in ensuring that we stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight. I personally have lost 35 lbs eating whatever I want within my calorie goals. You may or may not want to employ a particular WOE (way of eating) to get there. It depends on what you enjoy and can sustain over the long term.

    I hope this somewhat messy explanation helps a bit.
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    harley79 wrote: »
    Hi I'm back yet once again I'm 47 and I'm a mom and a wife I weigh 313 and just can't seem to stick to anything. I have done keto,Paleo,whole 30, WW blah blah I'm just starting to feel hopeless. I'm so confused as to what works I heard calories in vs calories out is all a myth

    Tia Tammy

    The people who say CICO is a myth fall into two basic camps:

    1) Those connected to weight loss plans where there's money to be made attempting to confuse people so they think they need complicated advice/guidance to lose weight.

    2) People who mistakenly think CICO is "diet". It's not. It's a math equation. Nothing more. Nothing less.
    CI = CO is maintenance
    CI > CO is weight gain
    CI < CO is weight loss

    How you achieve the calorie balance is where the idea of "dieting" comes in to play in terms of particular ways of eating (CI) and/or exercising (CO).

    The math equation gets shortened to CICO for simplicity and because the middle symbol you add will depend on your goals.

    I also notice that CICO often gets confused with "Calorie Counting" which is something totally different. It's simply a way of determining your CI relative to your CO. You certainly don't need to count calories to lose weight; most people never do.

    But I for one (and there are many others here) find it very helpful in ensuring that we stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight. I personally have lost 35 lbs eating whatever I want within my calorie goals. You may or may not want to employ a particular WOE (way of eating) to get there. It depends on what you enjoy and can sustain over the long term.

    I hope this somewhat messy explanation helps a bit.

    I didn't think it was messy at all... quite good, in fact :)

    Out of laziness, I have referred to CICO as if it were a "plan", but it's not- it's just the mathematics of how weight loss occurs. If keto is a person's dream diet, there's no reason they shouldn't use it to accomplish the math, but most people find it easier to focus on the math alone and eat however they want.
  • adambrown01
    adambrown01 Posts: 24 Member
    Momepro wrote: »
    harley79 wrote: »
    I have done keto,Paleo,whole 30, WW blah blah


    Things that have taken me a long time to learn:
    • Forgive yourself for screwing up.
    • It's okay to crave and eat things that are bad for you (just dont do it regularly)
    • Weight loss takes a long time.
    • Motivation is fleeting. Fight through your desperation.
    • You WILL GAIN WEIGHT BACK. It's ok. We all do. It's ok. It's ok. It's ok. You can lose it again. Don't give up.


    ^^ this apart from the last one. I lost weight 5 years ago and never regained. So no, not everyone regains.

    I think it is more general as in sometimes even with the best plan ever you gain back a few pounds now and again, ehether it is a temporary setback, or just that time of month, it is inevitable. But don't be discouraged when that happens, because if you stick to your nee habuts it will fix itself

    Thanks for correctly interpreting my vague bullet point. ;)
  • harley79
    harley79 Posts: 79 Member
    the body is not a calculatorand yes you cal lose weight at first eating less but it crushes your metabolism...if I did what mfp suggested I would gain weight! lol

    So what do you suggest
  • harley79
    harley79 Posts: 79 Member
    try2again wrote: »
    the body is not a calculatorand yes you cal lose weight at first eating less but it crushes your metabolism...if I did what mfp suggested I would gain weight! lol

    OP, I just want to point out that the "woo" button is a bad thing- basically unscientific- not "Woohoo! What an awesome comment!" ;)

    Can someone post that chart that breaks down how different diets cause you to lose weight?

    Let me know if someone post the chart
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    harley79 wrote: »
    try2again wrote: »
    the body is not a calculatorand yes you cal lose weight at first eating less but it crushes your metabolism...if I did what mfp suggested I would gain weight! lol

    OP, I just want to point out that the "woo" button is a bad thing- basically unscientific- not "Woohoo! What an awesome comment!" ;)

    Can someone post that chart that breaks down how different diets cause you to lose weight?

    Let me know if someone post the chart

    Look at @try2again's post, 16 posts up from yours.
  • try2again
    try2again Posts: 3,562 Member
    edited February 2018
    harley79 wrote: »
    the body is not a calculatorand yes you cal lose weight at first eating less but it crushes your metabolism...if I did what mfp suggested I would gain weight! lol

    So what do you suggest

    I am not the poster in question, but maybe I can address this a little bit.

    First off, the idea that a person won't lose weight or will even gain weight due to eating too few calories (an idea commonly referred to as "starvation mode") is bogus. This is why this post has received so many "woos".

    However, prolonged calorie restriction does impact our hormone levels and this, as well as the fact that as we become smaller, we burn fewer calories, can negatively impact our metabolism to a degree, causing our weight loss to slow down. It will not prevent a person who is in a true calorie deficit from losing weight, nor cause a person to gain weight. The remedy for this is what is known as a diet break. This is not a careless, free-for-all kind of break, but a week or 2 eating at maintenance calories in order to restore hormone levels. If you would like to know more, here is the link. The subheading "Why Take a Full Diet Break: Physiological Reasons" explains it in more detail:

    https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/

    However, I'm guessing this is actually more than you want or need to know right now. All you really need to know is that losing weight requires that the calories you take in from food need to be less than what you burn in a given day through your normal activities and any purposeful exercise. Fill out your MFP profile, choose a *reasonable* weekly weight loss goal, and choose the activity level that applies to your typical day, not including exercise. Eat the calories MFP gives you, ideally from a balanced diet that keeps you satiated & happy. Focus on accurate logging (weighing & measuring what you eat, choosing accurate database entries, and utilizing the recipe builder for homemade dishes). If you choose to exercise, log it and eat back about 50% of the calories it gives you (calorie burns in the database tend to be inflated). That's it. After you've been at it for a few months, maybe come back and revisit the diet break idea. :)
  • lois1231
    lois1231 Posts: 330 Member
    Surgery isn't the answer. I had surgery in 2001, lost 70 pounds and gained to my highest weight over the years to 317 pounds. I got back down to 225 by seeing a nutritionist and then gained back to 275 pounds where I have been for a few years. I am working on getting back on track and have been slowly losing. I am down about 9 pounds so far. As someone said, anything worth fighting for doesn't come easy. There is no easy way to do this.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    edited February 2018
    adriana07m wrote: »
    You can do it just change ur diet and workout moderately and you will see the pounds come off don’t give up set yourself a goal like lose a certain amount of weight for your 50th Bday just don’t give in

    you dont have to change your diet or workout. all you have to do is eat less than your body burns and you lose weight. weight loss is all about a calorie deficit. and the way MFP works it doesnt take exercise into the weight loss equation.eating healthier foods is all about health.which getting a well balanced diet is best for health.working out is good for your body too though but not needed to lose weight
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    the body is not a calculatorand yes you cal lose weight at first eating less but it crushes your metabolism...if I did what mfp suggested I would gain weight! lol

    how does it crush your metabolism?
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