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Pre work outs
sstout02
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With so many pre workouts out there what do you guys recommend. My goals are to burn fat..leaner and stronger. I did buy some creative powder..how should I use it...or is this not what I need.
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Coffee.
I'm not a PWO fan.3 -
You can use a preworkout if you want more energy during your workouts. But it will not offer any additional fat burning benefits.
Eat in a deficit, get adequate protein and follow a progressive lifting program to lose fat and help retain muscle.
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I'm not familiar with creative power. Is that auto-correct for creatine?
Pre-workout drinks are largely overhyped, but if you prefer something off the shelf like that, then just look for caffeine and/or carbs/sugars. Those are really the only 2 things that matter when talking about a boost of energy.
I'll admit that I do like my energy shots.. but 90% of the time, a caffeine pill and a handful of gummy bears does the same thing for 1/10 the cost.
As for your goals.. burning fat and getting leaner - exercise can help, but most will see far better results if they focus on diet. Getting stronger... lots of ways to do that, but most find an established lifting program to be the most efficient/effective.5 -
Pre-work out isn't really necessary unless you want caffeine or something to wake up before a morning session.
Heck, most of us don't even need post-workout powders/supplements.4 -
The only preworkout I drink is coffee. Marketing tells you preworkout is needed, when in fact it actually can hurt your performance in the long run.
Lately I've been soaking steel cut oats in protien powder with 3 grams of luecine overnight just as a lazy breakfast on the drive into the gym.1 -
My pre-workout is a caffeine pill and a glass of water.1
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Pre-workouts are definitely not needed by any means. If you feel the need to take one, my suggestion would be JYM's pre-workout. It actually has more to it than a ton of caffeine and some creatine. It has a good mix of different supplements that can improve performance and at the correct quantity or the quantities used in peer-reviewed studies. If you feel compelled to use one, that's my suggestion for you. But a PWO is definitely not needed.2
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Yes creatine..thank you so much!
quote="jjpptt2;c-41609464"]I'm not familiar with creative power. Is that auto-correct for creatine?
Pre-workout drinks are largely overhyped, but if you prefer something off the shelf like that, then just look for caffeine and/or carbs/sugars. Those are really the only 2 things that matter when talking about a boost of energy.
I'll admit that I do like my energy shots.. but 90% of the time, a caffeine pill and a handful of gummy bears does the same thing for 1/10 the cost.
As for your goals.. burning fat and getting leaner - exercise can help, but most will see far better results if they focus on diet. Getting stronger... lots of ways to do that, but most find an established lifting program to be the most efficient/effective.[/quote]
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Creatine!! Sorry guys lol0
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I guess I feel into the hype I will stick to caffeine0
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I guess I feel into the hype I will stick to caffeine
You did haha. It's easy to do. I was actually mocking supplements that have pro bodybuilders on them asking the owner of the supp store if I'd look like them by taking that supplement. He wasn't impressed.
The best thing you can do is learn the game. That being.. everyone is will do everything they can to separate you from your money. Creatine is okay. But do not buy BCAA they're little more than drink flavouring.
Focus on your diet and an actual lifting program. Not something you conjured up. I'm sorry to say but whatever you come up with will be sub par and bear minimal results. That's not a dig or an insult. It's just fact, beginners have no idea what a lifting program requires.2 -
Creatine isn't a PWO - have a read about it on examine.com to get guidance on use and dosage.
To answer your original question....
My favourite PWO is plain old water unless I'm cycling hard for 2hrs plus then I'll be eating some carbs to top up my fuel levels.
Personally mever felt the need for stimulants before working out.2 -
I swear by my preworkout. I workout in the morning super early and so without it I'd never get up. I keep it by my bed so when my alarm goes off I can quickly shake it up and then by the time I put my workout clothes on it's started to kick in. Coffee would likely work too but I couldn't keep it by my bed and it would never kick in that quickly. I also do a lot of circuits, or plyometric movements, and weight/cardio combinations and I have so much more energy and power when I take it. I have found that I often burn 100-150 calories more per workout with it, than without it. I use C4 and I love it.2
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kshearer13 wrote: »I swear by my preworkout. I workout in the morning super early and so without it I'd never get up. I keep it by my bed so when my alarm goes off I can quickly shake it up and then by the time I put my workout clothes on it's started to kick in. Coffee would likely work too but I couldn't keep it by my bed and it would never kick in that quickly. I also do a lot of circuits, or plyometric movements, and weight/cardio combinations and I have so much more energy and power when I take it. I have found that I often burn 100-150 calories more per workout with it, than without it. I use C4 and I love it.
You do realize that stimulant feeling that you get from it is literally from the caffeine in your pre workout right?
You just happen to put back 200mg in 30s rather than about 110 in the course of 15 minutes.0 -
kshearer13 wrote: »I swear by my preworkout. I workout in the morning super early and so without it I'd never get up. I keep it by my bed so when my alarm goes off I can quickly shake it up and then by the time I put my workout clothes on it's started to kick in. Coffee would likely work too but I couldn't keep it by my bed and it would never kick in that quickly. I also do a lot of circuits, or plyometric movements, and weight/cardio combinations and I have so much more energy and power when I take it. I have found that I often burn 100-150 calories more per workout with it, than without it. I use C4 and I love it.
I'm up at 3:45 and at the gym by 4:30, and still don't use PWO. It is possible.3 -
You do realize that stimulant feeling that you get from it is literally from the caffeine in your pre workout right?
You just happen to put back 200mg in 30s rather than about 110 in the course of 15 minutes.
Could also be the Beta alanine or Citrulline. Although C4 doesn't have enough to be useful, just enough to make you tingle0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »
Could also be the Beta alanine or Citrulline. Although C4 doesn't have enough to be useful, just enough to make you tingle
But neither are stimulants anyways. Both are fatigue fighters0 -
But neither are stimulants anyways. Both are fatigue fighters
What's the difference, real world?
Sincere question.0 -
But neither are stimulants anyways. Both are fatigue fighters
Not my point. The claim was stimulant feeling. For lots of people they’re referring to the niacin/ beta alanine flush aka parasthesia. And lots of folks rely on that to help them get it up to work out. Citrulline seems to enhance the flush/rush.0 -
My brother is a gym nut/supplement junkie and swears by Dymatize. I just ordered some for myself. After a long day of work and a long commute, I need something to give me a little energy to push through.1
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Oh, and I'm not looking for it to be a fat-burner of any sort...I need it strictly for energy.1
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butterfli7o wrote: »My brother is a gym nut/supplement junkie and swears by Dymatize. I just ordered some for myself. After a long day of work and a long commute, I need something to give me a little energy to push through.
If you really feel you need it, checkout the JYM products. It's one of the few that is actually done right in-terms of PWO's. Not saying it's the only, just one of few.2 -
butterfli7o wrote: »Oh, and I'm not looking for it to be a fat-burner of any sort...I need it strictly for energy.
That's all fat burners are. They're a stimulant and a bogus metabolism booster1 -
Stimulants.
Increase heart rate. Can cause your adrenal glands to excrete adrenaline. Stimulates your body.
Fatigue fighter.
Increases the total workload of your skeletal muscle. Can reduce lactic acid, increase nutrient delivery to muscles, increase energy sources for your muscles.
In ways they're similar. But how they work is different.
Obviously not the most precise definitions. Not looking to start a debate.1 -
MotherOfSharpei wrote: »My pre-workout is a caffeine pill and a glass of water.
I wish I could take one with just water. It hurts my stomach without food. I take them on days I work since my day starts at 130am2 -
Stimulants.
Increase heart rate. Can cause your adrenal glands to excrete adrenaline. Stimulates your body.
Fatigue fighter.
Increases the total workload of your skeletal muscle. Can reduce lactic acid, increase nutrient delivery to muscles, increase energy sources for your muscles.
In ways they're similar. But how they work is different.
Obviously not the most precise definitions. Not looking to start a debate.
Interesting, thanks.
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Thank you for the info, JJ.
Funny. In years past I've eliminated caffeine from my diet as to not impact my heart rate numbers and have lightly consumed after workouts to help recovery.
Of course....IM training & now on ~4-5 cups per day (but scaling back)0 -
JAYxMSxPES wrote: »
If you really feel you need it, checkout the JYM products. It's one of the few that is actually done right in-terms of PWO's. Not saying it's the only, just one of few.
That one seems ok. It has the minimal beneficial dose for Beta-Alanine and Citrulline Malate. Legion Pulse would be a better choice if one chose a pre workout. And it appears to be cheaper.0 -
Stimulants.
Increase heart rate. Can cause your adrenal glands to excrete adrenaline. Stimulates your body.
Fatigue fighter.
Increases the total workload of your skeletal muscle. Can reduce lactic acid, increase nutrient delivery to muscles, increase energy sources for your muscles.
In ways they're similar. But how they work is different.
Obviously not the most precise definitions. Not looking to start a debate.
To add, Beta-Alanine has been shown to reduce fatigue and improve recovery in high volume workouts where rest is minimal and/or you are in the 15+ rep range. It is less or insignificant in a low volume workout.
L-CITRULINE or Citrulline Malate can increase blood flow and increase ATP which will allow for greater volume workouts. There is also evidence that it supports reduced fatigue post workout. Interestingly enough this gets less recognition that Beta-Alanine but it has more benefits and doesnt come with any side effects.2 -
Coffee
straight, no chaser3
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