food diary viewing-stop whining
Chunkabutt83
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I hope no one finds this offensive but something is really bothering me. There are people i see whining and complaining how they cant lose weight and yada yada and then i take a look at their food diary---->>> and they eat mcdonalds and pizza and etc 24/7. Why join a weight loss plan, eat fast food and expect to lose weight??? And why be dumb enough to share your diary and still complain...
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OMG I was thinking the same thing... You read my mind ... you can't workout for an hour then go blow it on Mcdonalds and Burger King than ask what the problem is???? It's your eating habits...duh ;-)0
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I hope no one finds this offensive but something is really bothering me. There are people i see whining and complaining how they cant lose weight and yada yada and then i take a look at their food diary---->>> and they eat mcdonalds and pizza and etc 24/7. Why join a weight loss plan, eat fast food and expect to lose weight??? And why be dumb enough to share your diary and still complain...
Perhaps they are hoping for and needing some positive motivation and support from others...0 -
exactly! And some of the people ive seen go way over on calories a day. To each their own, eat what you want, its your life, but im sick of people complaining when its their own fault!0
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well they probably joined this site for encouragement from others and maybe you could point that out in a softer way you could help them!0
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LOL. Totally agree. We all have our bad days but know that we can't expect to lose weight with too many bad days. You can't continually eat over calorie limit and expect to lose weight. If you feed your body good foods, exercise, and stay true to the calories, you will certainly lose weight.0
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I hope no one finds this offensive but something is really bothering me. There are people i see whining and complaining how they cant lose weight and yada yada and then i take a look at their food diary---->>> and they eat mcdonalds and pizza and etc 24/7. Why join a weight loss plan, eat fast food and expect to lose weight??? And why be dumb enough to share your diary and still complain...
Because:
1) some people don't know about nutrition and think it is only about the number of calories and not the sources of those calories
2) due to the invention of the tv dinner and fast food "restaurant" many people have never learned the art of cooking and are afraid to give it the old college try
3) for the same reason as #2 many people don't know how to eat a balanced meal or even what one looks like
4) many people would rather eat what tastes good instead of figuring out how to make what's good for them taste good
5) many people want help and want to know these things but just don't know where to start
You have to have a base for nutrition and if no one has ever taught you through experience about it your foundation is skewed.0 -
Judgmental much?0
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Personally, I really find whinning to be cathartic.
Seriously, one thing that I know is that I will never loose weight on a diet, but only when I learn to eat smart in the real world. And, the real world had McDonald's and Pizza Hut in them. What I am learning is how to navigate those minefields without loosing the battle.
So, when you see someone whine cuz they aren't loosing weight, but they are eating at a fast food place, give them some help in making a better choice next time - what on the menu at McDonalds do you think is tasty but less harmful to the weight gain? Maybe suggest that next time they have a salad and one slice instead of two slices.
Just my thoughts.0 -
I agree 100%. I just deleted 9 *friends* who were the exact same way. Whine about being so over-weight, that the exercise isn't working and their food diaries are powdered donuts and pepsi for breakfast, McD's for lunch and Wendy's for dinner...When they OBVIOUSLY live close to a grocery store and have a kitchen in their home. *Sigh* It's frustrating finding friends with similar lifestyle goals, I can't compliment bad choices, especially when I don't see any (or maybe just one) fruits or vegetables in their diaries. So I only have a small group of friends on here that are REALLY trying/making great changes to live a healthier lifestyle forever.0
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Judgmental much?
instead of judging, why not support them and motivate them to change0 -
Judgmental much?
believe me, i never meant to come across as judgemental, just worried as to what our society deems as "good nutrition", but going to mcdonalds for breakfast and eatting 3 sandwhiches kind of seems a little obvious to me that your dooming yourself to failure.0 -
wow. this is sad.0
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My food diary is available, and I make it available to everyone on here in hopes that if someone sees something that I may be doing wrong, they will take just a minute and tell me "if you would lay off of that ..... they it would help. I don't eat McDonalds or Burger King anymore thank goodness, but if I am doing something wrong, then my diary is open. We do need encouragement from time to time, and sometimes it doesnt hurt for someone to be a little straight, but do it with kindness, just keep me straight. :flowerforyou: You guys are awesome on here, and you don't realize how much I do depend on your help.0
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I agree also but anytime you have to start a post off with....I hope this doesn't offend anyone, then it’s probably going to be offensive. Your correct, if you eat out every day then it’s probably going to keep you from losing weight but alot of the times we can help in a more kind way by offering words of encouragement and constructive criticism.0
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Personally, I really find whinning to be cathartic.
Seriously, one thing that I know is that I will never loose weight on a diet, but only when I learn to eat smart in the real world. And, the real world had McDonald's and Pizza Hut in them. What I am learning is how to navigate those minefields without loosing the battle.
So, when you see someone whine cuz they aren't loosing weight, but they are eating at a fast food place, give them some help in making a better choice next time - what on the menu at McDonalds do you think is tasty but less harmful to the weight gain? Maybe suggest that next time they have a salad and one slice instead of two slices.
Just my thoughts.
i totally agree here, everything in moderation, but said people i see eat fast food every day for at least 2 meals most days, so it isnt just here and there. I suppose i would rather post this rant than hurt someones feelings by bringing this to their attention0 -
This is a learning process. Some can not figure out how to eat better and some still have not gotten it that fast food is very bad for them. I myself have a terrible time with my love for pizza. I hope I don't whine but there are days when you do follow and try harder and there is no payoff at the end of the week and it is a huge disappointment. I lost 65 lbs in all last sept thru May and ended up gaining those cals and bad eating patterns and no exercise over the busy hot summer where I had kids all day eating. even healthy foods do not stop the gain if you are eating all day long. Just understand that people are wanting to change..hoping to change and think maybe by leaving it open to the public others can direct them gently. I am in my fifties and never was over weight til I started meds in my forties. Now I have to totally learn a new way of life as I have to stay on those meds. It is hard and backsliding is so darn easy. I am starting over again. You did not offend me, I just wanted to try to help you understand. Keep on losing and have a great day today.0
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Personally, I really find whinning to be cathartic.
Seriously, one thing that I know is that I will never loose weight on a diet, but only when I learn to eat smart in the real world. And, the real world had McDonald's and Pizza Hut in them. What I am learning is how to navigate those minefields without loosing the battle.
So, when you see someone whine cuz they aren't loosing weight, but they are eating at a fast food place, give them some help in making a better choice next time - what on the menu at McDonalds do you think is tasty but less harmful to the weight gain? Maybe suggest that next time they have a salad and one slice instead of two slices.
Just my thoughts.
Couldn't have said it better myself! :flowerforyou:0 -
Maybe they don't KNOW how to eat. Some people don't know good eating habits. If they ask for help, offer your help. This is supposed to be a supportive site. And if it makes you mad, don't say anything, let others help them out. I never had a weight problem until I had kids. I have just recently gotten to understand what healthy foods are. We are here to help and support one another.0
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I think there is a strong correlation between the people who eat horribly then complain that "nothing is working" and the ones who start threads asking about weight loss drug suggestions.
Suck it up and eat right. It ain't that hard, people.0 -
I hope no one finds this offensive but something is really bothering me. There are people i see whining and complaining how they cant lose weight and yada yada and then i take a look at their food diary---->>> and they eat mcdonalds and pizza and etc 24/7. Why join a weight loss plan, eat fast food and expect to lose weight??? And why be dumb enough to share your diary and still complain...
Haha I agree. I'm sure that they joined for support and motivation which they will find plenty on this site. But I have often wondered, in a day and age when information is so easily available....how can they not know eating McDonalds and other fast foods consistently does not equal weight loss?! In the end, you can have all the support and motivation available to you but You have to get real with yourself, and honest! YOU are responsible for what you put in your mouth. It's hard, to be sure and it's great to have so much support here on this site. But it's not going to happen by a miracle, you have to be accountable to yourself!!
Wishing everyone out there great success in your fitness goals!!!!!!0 -
i guess i should clarify i didnt mean it really makes me mad, just sad for them. Im not one to judge, nor am i trying to. Im morbidly obese but if i eat at mcdonalds and pizza hut everyday, who am i to complain about being overweight? I want to be helpful, but in my mind i feel i will hurt their feelings by pointing out that they would lose more weight by not eatting 4 slices of pizza every day for lunch.0
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Well maybe they are looking for support and information and to be taught the facts of eating right. A lot of people believe it doesn't matter what you eat so long and you are under calories and that will work.. In the long run, it will not.
Instead of making a thread and talking down on these people, why not offer them some support and encouragement and TEACH them the right way?0 -
I hope no one finds this offensive but something is really bothering me. There are people i see whining and complaining how they cant lose weight and yada yada and then i take a look at their food diary---->>> and they eat mcdonalds and pizza and etc 24/7. Why join a weight loss plan, eat fast food and expect to lose weight??? And why be dumb enough to share your diary and still complain...
Haha I agree. I'm sure that they joined for support and motivation which they will find plenty on this site. But I have often wondered, in a day and age when information is so easily available....how can they not know eating McDonalds and other fast foods consistently does not equal weight loss?! In the end, you can have all the support and motivation available to you but You have to get real with yourself, and honest! YOU are responsible for what you put in your mouth. It's hard, to be sure and it's great to have so much support here on this site. But it's not going to happen by a miracle, you have to be accountable to yourself!!
Wishing everyone out there great success in your fitness goals!!!!!!
Well, I'm not sure HOW they don't know it, but it seems clear they don't. So, instead of passive-aggressively going around whining about other people's whining, how about passing on some of your knowledge to them? If someone came right out and asked people to look at their diary and offer comments..then do it!0 -
Personally, I really find whinning to be cathartic.
Seriously, one thing that I know is that I will never loose weight on a diet, but only when I learn to eat smart in the real world. And, the real world had McDonald's and Pizza Hut in them. What I am learning is how to navigate those minefields without loosing the battle.
So, when you see someone whine cuz they aren't loosing weight, but they are eating at a fast food place, give them some help in making a better choice next time - what on the menu at McDonalds do you think is tasty but less harmful to the weight gain? Maybe suggest that next time they have a salad and one slice instead of two slices.
Just my thoughts.
i totally agree here, everything in moderation, but said people i see eat fast food every day for at least 2 meals most days, so it isnt just here and there. I suppose i would rather post this rant than hurt someones feelings by bringing this to their attention
Well even though this is a rant, it does nothing towards helping these people. Them having their diaries open may be a cry for help. They may just be losing the fast food battle and need someone who thinks their off their rocker to tell them that. It would be good to tell them that that is definitely their cause for failure and if they don't want your input, then at least you know you did your part. Some people need an extra push or in some cases a good firm kick in the butt to do what they need to do.0 -
My diary is always open and I hope that it helps give healthy ideas to people who are struggling to figure out how to do this. It took me a damn LONG time to get it right, there were a lot of lessons learned the hard way before I got my weight loss moving.
So maybe, they're just at the beginning of their journey. Suggesting reasons for eating differently might be helpful, rather than straight out condemnation. Ie: the sodium, the MSG and HFCS additives, the insulin spike and crash from processed foods, and the ability to eat SO much more if it's not "fast food" and overly high in calories. Sometimes, they may just not realize it .
Good luck to all! :flowerforyou:0 -
I agree with you, but I've come to the realization that it is possible that some people just don't know how to eat properly. Perhaps they were brought up in a home where they regularly ate fast food. Have you ever seen the movie Super size Me? (Or whatever it's called...?) There's a scene where "Jared from Subway" is giving some motivational speech about how he lost weight eating only subway sandwiches for lunch. A young girl and her mother are then interviewed where the mother states that her daughter is teased at school because of her weight and the daughter is in tears because she can't afford a subway sandwich at lunch every day and therefore thinks that she can't lose weight, rather than realizing that she can just make a sandwich herself. Granted, this might be staged, but I really think that some people just don't know how to eat healthy foods for whatever reason.0
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yes, knowledge is definatly power when it comes to eating right. I guess i just have a hard time understanding how they dont know that proper place to look up nutrition tips. I was raised eating wrong, my parents owned a restaurant and we lived above it and our only kitchen was in the restaurant, i had fried foods for all meals and pepsi on tap. Thats what did me in, but i do know how to eat right and lose weight, its usually motivation that ends up getting me, i give up, maybe they have given up too but just dont realize it i guess.0
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Maybe if the education system in this country (USA) actually taught proper physical activity as well as nutrition at an early age then we wouldn't have to worry about this. Also, maybe if parents gave a crap about their kids and actually taught proper nutrition, the same thing would happen. We basically have two completely failed systems (education + parenting) and there is no end in sight.
In other words, be prepared for more people saying they can't lose weight even though they're making the "right" choices by eating Pizza Hut 3 times a day and not understanding how they're getting bigger. Give it 20 years and things might change.0 -
I have to say that the only helpful thing about reading this thread was finding friends; the negative message that started this whole thing, along with the other jeering comments from judgmental people is truly unfortunate. It's my hope that people who do read this thread and feel frightened or ashamed by their own behavior, feeling less than perfect will hear that there are people who support them and are willing to help them. If you don't want to help, or if you find it useful to "unfriend 9 friends" (!), all right. But keep your supercilious comments to yourselves.0
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I think we might have the same "friend" in common!!!! This girl eats McDonalds literally 5 out of 7 days a week and 2 meals from there sometimes a day. She consumes all her calories from Fast Food, Pizza, etc. I have tried to explain to her that there are better choices if she has to eat out and I told her to add the sodium column so she could see how horrible her choices were, but she doesn't and just continues on eating horribly every day. I almost think she might work at McDonalds because why on earth would she choose to eat there for 2 meals a day if she didn't? I give up trying to help because she isn't even trying to make better choices and honestly I think she is just not putting in the effort so that she can get the weight loss surgery instead. We all joined this site to get healthy, we are all not perfect and have slip up days, but when there is only 1 day a week that you actually made good food choices, why are you here at all? I only keep her as a friend hoping that I will see her making better choices, and I will be here to root her on when she does!!0
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