Insane urge to eat\binge after eating.

Be patient and try different things. IF may be a lifesaver for you. Or maybe volume eating, higher carbs or a combo of a few things.

My first year, I was totally white-knuckling it like you, but after much experimentation— found a lifestyle I can maintain.

Pale_Green wrote: »

Well its nice to know theres others out there feeling this is a issue. Its very frustrating...i also have at times pushed back my meals till later...doesnt really help with the urge to keep going but theres a smaller window of time left lol
Ive been vegetarian for 7 months (massively gained during the switch...youd think a vegetarian diet would have opposite effect...but vegetarian diet is largely carbs...and often lower in fat) so now im 4 days in to vegetarian keto. I cant push my food till later in the day now...reaching that fat quota just cant be left for a small window lol...but manalive i just had my lunch and all i can do is dream of food. But yes distracting myself seems to help...and it does pass till next time i eat. Its just frustrating...i hope to conquer my mind on this one day.

can I ask how you are doing vegetarian keto? keto is high fat(60 pecent or more of your intake) ,low carbs and moderate protein. and correct me if Im wrong but dont vegetarians eat a lot of carbs? and you can gain weight even eating vegetarian its all about calories in vs calories out. so you can even eat too much being vegetarian. for you not getting enough fat or protein could be making you hungrier and therefore wanting to binge or it could be maybe you arent eating enough calories?(you didntsay what your calorie intake is)

Pale_Green wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

Pale_Green wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

Pale_Green wrote: »

Well its nice to know theres others out there feeling this is a issue. Its very frustrating...i also have at times pushed back my meals till later...doesnt really help with the urge to keep going but theres a smaller window of time left lol
Ive been vegetarian for 7 months (massively gained during the switch...youd think a vegetarian diet would have opposite effect...but vegetarian diet is largely carbs...and often lower in fat) so now im 4 days in to vegetarian keto. I cant push my food till later in the day now...reaching that fat quota just cant be left for a small window lol...but manalive i just had my lunch and all i can do is dream of food. But yes distracting myself seems to help...and it does pass till next time i eat. Its just frustrating...i hope to conquer my mind on this one day.

can I ask how you are doing vegetarian keto? keto is high fat(60 pecent or more of your intake) ,low carbs and moderate protein. and correct me if Im wrong but dont vegetarians eat a lot of carbs? and you can gain weight even eating vegetarian its all about calories in vs calories out. so you can even eat too much being vegetarian. for you not getting enough fat or protein could be making you hungrier and therefore wanting to binge or it could be maybe you arent eating enough calories?(you didntsay what your calorie intake is)

Yea I wasnt cal counting when i went vegetarian. Sigh...and ive always known my body isnt a fan of carbs in general. I never crave stuff like bread, pasta, rice, lentils etc. But had added them in..grant my cals were obviously high to gain. But i also just wasnt feeling well after eating alot of the carb vegetarian meals. I was a massive meat eater prior...naturally craved meat and dairy.

Anywho i am able to easily get my protein ...theres protein drinks most of which also fit into keto range. The one i have delivers 40g protein so i dont have to worry too much after that..my food fills the rest in. So far my diet is wake have bullet tea...chai tea with coconut milk and14g of coconut oil. And 125g of organic greek gods plain yogurt.then at lunch 60g arugula and 50g baby spinach. With a greek yogurt dressing 30g of cheese. Than i take my plant based omega 3...its oil of some plant.
Then at supper 4 egg omelete with 30g cheese..a little more greek dressing like 15g. And franks red hot dressing. My day comes to about 1300-1400 cals

That said it doesnt matter if im currently following a program or not once i first have a meal i always have a hard time stopping.

Sadly i dont think my body type actually likes being vegetarian. But i didnt really make the switch for health reasons. I am kinda sad i didnt get the feeling great going plant base as others say they do.

how active are you? and do you eat back your exercise calories? for some people certain ways of eating arent sustainable for them. but as for keto how much fat are you getting per day? also if doing keto and doing low carb, your body can get whats called keto flu in which you need to up sodium to 3500-5000 mg. and make sure you are getting enough potassium and magnesium as well. that could make you feel better. you body needs a good amount of fat to help with producing ketones. fat is what your body uses as a fuel source.

I was feeling ill just being vegetarian. Not now doing keto...i feel back to normal now. My macros are 70% fat...25%protein and 5% carbs. And i am meeting them. My urine shows a 2.75 ketone level so im doing good. And im staying under 1500cals. I average 1300-1450 cals.

I think the higher carb lower fat vegetarian diet does not like my body. So thats why im doing keto. Plus i regularly lived a keto life when i was a meater. And always felt great.

But as for just the urge to always eat after i just eaten. Thats always been there no matter my diet or if i was vegetarian or not. But i feel good..just wonder if its normal to always feel the urge to eat more after eating a adeqate amount. Lol

the only way I feel the urge to eat more if I ate a good amount is if I didnt get enough sleep. otherwise most days I dont have that issue. or if I eat breakfast I want to eat everything in the house. which is one reason why I do 16:8(sometimes 18:6) intermittent fasting. I was never a breakfast person even at a very young age.but I try to get enough protein and fiber too. I cant do keto due to a health issue. I also make sure to drink enough water. so maybe if you arent getting enough fiber or water this could be why you feel like you want to "binge" so to speak.

but it just may be you need more calories especially if active.have you had blood work done? maybe you have a vitamin deficiency? anything is possible.

Pale_Green wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

Pale_Green wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

Pale_Green wrote: »

Well its nice to know theres others out there feeling this is a issue. Its very frustrating...i also have at times pushed back my meals till later...doesnt really help with the urge to keep going but theres a smaller window of time left lol
Ive been vegetarian for 7 months (massively gained during the switch...youd think a vegetarian diet would have opposite effect...but vegetarian diet is largely carbs...and often lower in fat) so now im 4 days in to vegetarian keto. I cant push my food till later in the day now...reaching that fat quota just cant be left for a small window lol...but manalive i just had my lunch and all i can do is dream of food. But yes distracting myself seems to help...and it does pass till next time i eat. Its just frustrating...i hope to conquer my mind on this one day.

can I ask how you are doing vegetarian keto? keto is high fat(60 pecent or more of your intake) ,low carbs and moderate protein. and correct me if Im wrong but dont vegetarians eat a lot of carbs? and you can gain weight even eating vegetarian its all about calories in vs calories out. so you can even eat too much being vegetarian. for you not getting enough fat or protein could be making you hungrier and therefore wanting to binge or it could be maybe you arent eating enough calories?(you didntsay what your calorie intake is)

Yea I wasnt cal counting when i went vegetarian. Sigh...and ive always known my body isnt a fan of carbs in general. I never crave stuff like bread, pasta, rice, lentils etc. But had added them in..grant my cals were obviously high to gain. But i also just wasnt feeling well after eating alot of the carb vegetarian meals. I was a massive meat eater prior...naturally craved meat and dairy.

Anywho i am able to easily get my protein ...theres protein drinks most of which also fit into keto range. The one i have delivers 40g protein so i dont have to worry too much after that..my food fills the rest in. So far my diet is wake have bullet tea...chai tea with coconut milk and14g of coconut oil. And 125g of organic greek gods plain yogurt.then at lunch 60g arugula and 50g baby spinach. With a greek yogurt dressing 30g of cheese. Than i take my plant based omega 3...its oil of some plant.
Then at supper 4 egg omelete with 30g cheese..a little more greek dressing like 15g. And franks red hot dressing. My day comes to about 1300-1400 cals

That said it doesnt matter if im currently following a program or not once i first have a meal i always have a hard time stopping.

Sadly i dont think my body type actually likes being vegetarian. But i didnt really make the switch for health reasons. I am kinda sad i didnt get the feeling great going plant base as others say they do.

how active are you? and do you eat back your exercise calories? for some people certain ways of eating arent sustainable for them. but as for keto how much fat are you getting per day? also if doing keto and doing low carb, your body can get whats called keto flu in which you need to up sodium to 3500-5000 mg. and make sure you are getting enough potassium and magnesium as well. that could make you feel better. you body needs a good amount of fat to help with producing ketones. fat is what your body uses as a fuel source.

I was feeling ill just being vegetarian. Not now doing keto...i feel back to normal now. My macros are 70% fat...25%protein and 5% carbs. And i am meeting them. My urine shows a 2.75 ketone level so im doing good. And im staying under 1500cals. I average 1300-1450 cals.

I think the higher carb lower fat vegetarian diet does not like my body. So thats why im doing keto. Plus i regularly lived a keto life when i was a meater. And always felt great.

But as for just the urge to always eat after i just eaten. Thats always been there no matter my diet or if i was vegetarian or not. But i feel good..just wonder if its normal to always feel the urge to eat more after eating a adeqate amount. Lol

Vegetarian here who has gone through all these same problems! I've tried all different diets, different eating techniques etc, and really the only thing I've ever found that has been sustainable, has given me weight loss AND given me energy at the same time is paying attention to my BMR. If you're eating 1300 calories per day, you may not be eating enough for all the systems of your body to even function properly. Let me explain a little more.

Your BMR (or basal metabolic rate) is the amount of calories your body burns at rest. So all the bodily functions we don't consciously control (heart pumping blood, lungs breathing and exchanging gases, hormone production, food digestion, metabolism working, etc) all burn calories. The amount your body burns is unique to you and you can figure it out online by finding a BMR calculator (don't confuse it with BMI calculator) and input your height, weight, age, and sex. Yours will be different than mine, but we will use me as an example. My BMR is 1650 calories. This means if I did nothing but sleep for 24 hours, during that period my body would burn 1650 calories. It is SO crucial and important to make sure, at a very minimum, you eat your BMR every single day because without that amount, your body cannot function properly. All the systems in the body will start to slow down and you will become fatigued. This places a lot of stress on the body, and we all know that the stress hormone (cortisol) promotes weight gain (or prevents fat loss).

Sometimes people can have a hard time grasping the concept of "eat more lose more" because that's not what we've always been told, but if the systems of your body can function at their very best, you will be HEALTHY. And that should be the aim of everyone's lifestyle change is to just be healthy, because weight loss WILL follow a healthy body - it's just natural! You won't even have to try.

Think about it like this, my BMR, 1650, is burned off. So if I eat that, I burn it, they cancel each other out. So if I don't eat much more than that, any other activity I do during the day (walking, working, cleaning etc) will all count toward a calorie deficit. I always suggest eating a bit more than your bmr if you're moderately active and especially if you're exercising, but your bmr is a great baseline to make sure you never go under. Once you restore balance and total health and wellbeing to all the systems of your body, the weight loss will naturally follow and you will feel great and have lots of evergy!

Also if you have any questions about being veggie, I can help you with that. I've been doing it for 6 years and my son is 2.5 and has been a vegetarian his whole life. We are extremely healthy and get all the necessary nutrients as I've done extensive research. If you're tired, this is your bodies way of telling you it needs something. You most likely need more calories (just check your BMR) or you may be depleting yourself of one or more nutrients. Once I started weighing and tracking all my food and making sure everything was totally balanced, I stopped binge eating and didn't even have to try. The urge just left. And this is something I struggled with badly for over 20 years. Up until a few months ago I would easily eat 2 plates of food then go eat 2 chocolate bars, cookies, ice cream, all night long. My body just finally has what it needs, it's happy, so the cravings are gone. Good luck to you!!!