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So I have read multiple times that you take the weight you want to be, multiply by ten and that is how many calories you should eat. So if I want to be 175, should I eat 1750 calories? Right now mfp has me set at 1260 calories. I exercise 4 days a week and not really seeing much success!

TIA for all the help!
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  • ambermichon
    ambermichon Posts: 404 Member
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    the 1260 already includes a deficit so you are supposed to eat back the cals you burn in exercise which would probably get you closer to the 1750 range
  • ivette512
    ivette512 Posts: 33 Member
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    I think (I may be mistaken) that the 1750 would be to maintain that weight. To lose you need to create a calorie deficit (hence the 1260). You're working out 4x a week are you eating back those calories? If you aren't that could be your issue.
  • natskedat
    natskedat Posts: 570 Member
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    To lose weight in a method other than a calorie reduced method like MFP, you'd start eating for the weight you are, and then as you keep your metabolism boosted by eating and exercising, you'd reassess your weight and bodyfat % monthly. You'd adjust your new caloric intake based on your new information. You wouldn't eat for the weight you want. You'd eat for the weight you are to GET the weight you want.

    With MFP, the calorie deficit is built in to your daily calories. That deficit is maintained even when you eat back your exercise calories. If you stick with MFP by eating to your calorie goal every day, you'll have a successful journey in weight loss.

    Best of luck!
  • KansasGal
    KansasGal Posts: 268 Member
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    I think (I may be mistaken) that the 1750 would be to maintain that weight. To lose you need to create a calorie deficit (hence the 1260). You're working out 4x a week are you eating back those calories? If you aren't that could be your issue.

    I do eat back my calories.
  • kayemme
    kayemme Posts: 1,782 Member
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    i wouldn't get too stuck on the number, rather, the "kind" of calorie you're eating.

    350 calories in a fast food hamburger is not the same as 350 calories of clean food.

    sure, the simple calorie exchange is the same, but the nutrients that wipe the body clean are not found in the hamburger. so while the calorie count may be the same, the effect of said calories are not.

    i don't know what you're eating, but if the scale isn't moving much, it's likely from the source of your calories. point is, it's not solely calories.

    i work on an 80% philosophy: i try to make at least 80% of my choices, good, healthy clean ones. the other 20 i can do whatever.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    I think (I may be mistaken) that the 1750 would be to maintain that weight. To lose you need to create a calorie deficit (hence the 1260). You're working out 4x a week are you eating back those calories? If you aren't that could be your issue.

    I do eat back my calories.

    To figure out what you burn with no exercise, click on the Tools tab then click BMR and calculate it. You should be running a slight deficit from that number, like 4-700 calories I think sounds right(someone correct me if I'm wrong).
  • lindsaystory
    lindsaystory Posts: 10 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
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    So I have read multiple times that you take the weight you want to be, multiply by ten and that is how many calories you should eat. So if I want to be 175, should I eat 1750 calories? Right now mfp has me set at 1260 calories. I exercise 4 days a week and not really seeing much success!

    TIA for all the help!

    I lost 85 lbs before MFP using this calculation so I would say it works :) My weight loss stalled when I went with MFP's numbers, went back to 10 x my weight and doing much better!! Good Luck!

    edited to add: yes I ate back the exercise cals that MFP gave me and still didn't lose...I love MFP for tracking and the community but use my own numbers for goals!
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Ideally, yes your net should be the same as your initial goal, so eating back your calories means eating back what you burn off in exercise. At least eating back a good portion of them would be good, you have to fuel your body when working on muscles!
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Essiantly yes. If you burn off 200, then your supposed to eat those 200 back.

    I personally follow the rule that if I'm hungry, I'm going to eat.. and if I'm not, then I won't force myself to eat every last exercise calorie back.
  • Redol67
    Redol67 Posts: 7
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    We burn calories even when we are resting. You need to eat more than you burn off to stay healthy.

    If you are active, multiply your current weight by 16. That's how many calories you need to maintain your current weight.

    If you barely exercise, multiply your current weight by 12.

    So, a somewhat active 150 lb. woman can probably multiply her weight by 14. That equals 2100 calories that she can consume per day without gaining weight. If she maintains her current activity and cuts 500 calories per day, she will lose about 1 pound of fat per week.
  • ShinySpork
    ShinySpork Posts: 28 Member
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    That calculation seems very flawed in application... When I netted 1500 calories a day, I lost weight I wanted to keep. If multiplying your goal weight by ten was an accurate calculation, I'd be on my way to gaining weight up to 150 pounds - which I'm not.

    That said, I'm not sure how accurate MFP's calculations are, either. When I signed up, I wanted to maintain my start weight and after choosing all the options that matched their descriptions, eating back my exercise calories and etc, I still lost when I meant to maintain.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Essiantly yes. If you burn off 200, then your supposed to eat those 200 back.

    I personally follow the rule that if I'm hungry, I'm going to eat.. and if I'm not, then I won't force myself to eat every last exercise calorie back.

    This is the right idea, or if you aren't too hungry you can use healthy but calorie rich foods to get some quickly, like eating some nuts or drinking some milk.
  • lindsaystory
    lindsaystory Posts: 10 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Ideally, yes your net should be the same as your initial goal, so eating back your calories means eating back what you burn off in exercise. At least eating back a good portion of them would be good, you have to fuel your body when working on muscles!
    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Ideally, yes your net should be the same as your initial goal, so eating back your calories means eating back what you burn off in exercise. At least eating back a good portion of them would be good, you have to fuel your body when working on muscles!

    WOW thanks you guys! I did not know this, I thought I should be below my goal, I am mistaken, this could be why my muscles ache so much I am guessing? And also why I go to bed a bit hungry? I appreciate the information!
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
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    So I have read multiple times that you take the weight you want to be, multiply by ten and that is how many calories you should eat. So if I want to be 175, should I eat 1750 calories? Right now mfp has me set at 1260 calories. I exercise 4 days a week and not really seeing much success!

    TIA for all the help!


    the problem is see with your theroy is my goal is 115 pounds. so by your theroy i should be eating 1150 cals a day , i think everyone would agree thats awfully low
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    Can someone please explain to me what you mean by eat back your calories? I have a 1320 calorie goal, I generally eat to about 1250-1300 daily and then burn off about 200 a night working out, my net ends up being a bit low, like around 1000-1100, am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to finish my day with my net at my goal of 1320?

    Ideally, yes your net should be the same as your initial goal, so eating back your calories means eating back what you burn off in exercise. At least eating back a good portion of them would be good, you have to fuel your body when working on muscles!

    WOW thanks you guys! I did not know this, I thought I should be below my goal, I am mistaken, this could be why my muscles ache so much I am guessing? And also why I go to bed a bit hungry? I appreciate the information!

    To help with your sore muscles, try eating some lean protein within 30 minutes of your workout, like a hard boiled egg or some chicken breast...fish...etc. It will help fuel the muscle building! Eating protein or fiber will help you from being hungry too!
  • lindsaystory
    lindsaystory Posts: 10 Member
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    WOW thanks you guys! I did not know this, I thought I should be below my goal, I am mistaken, this could be why my muscles ache so much I am guessing? And also why I go to bed a bit hungry? I appreciate the information!

    To help with your sore muscles, try eating some lean protein within 30 minutes of your workout, like a hard boiled egg or some chicken breast...fish...etc. It will help fuel the muscle building!
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    I have been eating a fish fillet or chicken breast each night before my work out but the soreness is persistent, granted I went from being non-active to running every night, and it has only been 12 days since I began. Perhaps my body is just not used to all this activity.
  • kapeluza
    kapeluza Posts: 3,434 Member
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    "Hello Folks,

    So often people personal message me asking me if I think their calories are correct. It seems that people think there is some magical formula that only a very few can figure out. I see so many people on here just popping in numbers and following them heedless of what the numbers mean. I feel it's ULTRA important to know why MFP (and me, and a few others) gives you certain numbers. To that end I will try to empower YOU to be able to understand the basics about calories, calorie deficits, and why we recommend eating exercise calories. With this knowledge you should be able to easily figure out what your calories should be at for reasonable, healthy weight loss. So without further ado, lets get started.

    1st things first, a few givens must be stated:

    -Everyone's body is slightly different. ALWAYS keep in mind your numbers may not be exactly what MFP thinks simply because everyone's bodies all burn energy at a different rate. Tweaking may be needed.

    - MFP's goals wizard is a "dumb" tool. That means it doesn't care whether a specific goal is healthy and/or right for you, it just subtracts the goal deficit from projected maintenance calories. This means that even if you shouldn't be trying for a 2 lb a week loss, MFP won't care, it will still try to help you get there.

    -1200 calories is a generic number. It's not right for everyone. It's a baseline minimum given out as a floor by MFP based on prior research by the medical community. NOT everyone will need a minimum of 1200, very small people can go under, and bigger people need more.


    OK with those facts firmly set in your mind (please go back and re-read the givens until you have them firmly planted in your skull!), we can continue. Figuring out your perfect deficit isn't magic, it's a few simple formula's base on some basic, worldwide standards, and generally with slight modefication, will work for just about anyone who (besides weight) is generally healthy.

    Here's what you need:
    Height, weight, age, activity level, sex

    NOTE: activity level isn't as mysterious as it sounds. If you have a desk job, and do very little walking throughout the day and don't really perform any sports or physical activities, then you are sedentary, if you do some walking every day (or at least 4 days a week) or other light activity for at least 30 minutes cumulative at least 4 times a week, you are lightly active. If you do 60 minutes of light activity 5 days a week or do some kind of sport that requires walking or light jogging (say swimming or mailman or warehouse employee) then you are active, If you do a physically demanding activity (one that makes you sweat) for 4 days a week or more and for more than 1 hour a day, you are very active (like a coach that runs drills or you play volleyball). When in doubt, go down 1 level, you'd rather burn more than you think than less.

    With all these numbers you can generate your BMI. Now I realize BMI is flawed, but for what we're doing it's good enough. After years on here, and doing lots and lots of research, I've been able to associate general BMI ranges with approximate goal levels. This works for about 80 to 85% of people out there (there's always a few that are outside the curve).

    So now we can figure out where your goal should be.
    Go to the tools section and figure out your BMI:

    Generally someone with a BMI over 32 can do a 1000 calorie a day (2 lbs a week) deficit
    With a BMI of 30 to 32 a deficit of 750 calories is generally correct (about 1.5 lbs a week)
    With a BMI of 28 to 30 a deficit of 500 calories is about right (about 1 lb a week)
    With a BMI of 26 to 28 a deficit of about 300 calories is perfect (about 1/2 lb a week)
    and below 26... well this is where we get fuzzy. See now you're no longer talking about being overweight, so while it's still ok to have a small deficit, you really should shift your focus more towards muscle building, and reducing fat. This means it is EXTRA important to eat your exercise calories as your body needs to KNOW it's ok to burn fat stores, and the only way it will know is if you keep giving it the calories it needs to not enter the famine response (starvation mode).

    With this quick guide you can figure out your goal rather easily. I know many people will say "I can't eat my exercise calories, I gain weight when I do". Well I have news for you, that's not correct. I submit this, if you eat your exercise calories and gain weight 1 of 3 things happened:
    1 you were previously in starvation mode, and you upped your calories, and had an immediate weight gain, that's normal, to be expected, and necessary to get your body on track. Give it a month, that will stop, and you, once again, will begin to lose, but this time, in a healthy manner.
    2 you incorrectly calculated something, either your exercise calories, your calorie intake, or you put in to large of a goal. Go back and check all your numbers.
    3 you haven't given it enough time to work. This site promotes HEALTHY weight loss people. Healthy weight loss doesn't happen in days or weeks, it takes months and years. Each change you make in how you eat needs a month or more to work, be patient, give it time. It will happen.

    And to everyone who has a trainer that doesn't agree with eating your exercise calories. I also submit this: In 90% of the cases (and I have talked to a LOT of trainers about this exact topic) they actually DO agree with this method, you just explained it wrong.
    Just saying to a trainer "should I eat my exercise calories?" isn't enough, you have to explain to them that MFP already generates a deficit prior to any exercise, therefore the deficit will remain whether you exercise or not. Once you give them that idea, and you are relatively sure they understand the concept then I'll bet they change their tune.

    I hope this helps, it's pretty straight forward if you've been here a while, and to you new guys, I recommend going to the message boards link, clicking on the "general diet and weight loss" area, and clicking on those first few posts that have the little mouse trap next to them, they are sticky and will always be there, and are a wealth of knowledge about this site, exercise calories, starvation mode...etc.

    regards,

    -Banks "
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    WOW thanks you guys! I did not know this, I thought I should be below my goal, I am mistaken, this could be why my muscles ache so much I am guessing? And also why I go to bed a bit hungry? I appreciate the information!

    To help with your sore muscles, try eating some lean protein within 30 minutes of your workout, like a hard boiled egg or some chicken breast...fish...etc. It will help fuel the muscle building!
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    I have been eating a fish fillet or chicken breast each night before my work out but the soreness is persistent, granted I went from being non-active to running every night, and it has only been 12 days since I began. Perhaps my body is just not used to all this activity.

    Eat the protein AFTER your workout, that's definitely better than before. Also give yourself rest days to give your body a lil time to recover.
  • lindsaystory
    lindsaystory Posts: 10 Member
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    WOW thanks you guys! I did not know this, I thought I should be below my goal, I am mistaken, this could be why my muscles ache so much I am guessing? And also why I go to bed a bit hungry? I appreciate the information!

    To help with your sore muscles, try eating some lean protein within 30 minutes of your workout, like a hard boiled egg or some chicken breast...fish...etc. It will help fuel the muscle building!
    I have been eating a fish fillet or chicken breast each night before my work out but the soreness is persistent, granted I went from being non-active to running every night, and it has only been 12 days since I began. Perhaps my body is just not used to all this activity.

    Eat the protein AFTER your workout, that's definitely better than before. Also give yourself rest days to give your body a lil time to recover.
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    OH I misread, okay how about a protein shake? I really enjoy those and they seem refreshing after a hard run or workout. :)