Running and 1/2 marathon training

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  • firef1y72
    firef1y72 Posts: 1,579 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    firef1y72 wrote: »

    I'm using a slightly modified myasics plan. I've got it set to 2xruns a week, one shorter 7-10.5km and one longer 7-17.5km plus I do a technique session with my PT 1xweek. Only in the first couple of weeks this time round, but followed the same app for marathon training. The last 2 long runs before tapering are 17km at pace which is ever so slightly slower than race pace. Mind the MYASICS does ask me to go a lot slower than my running pace, so my PT gets me to just use it for when and how far I should be running and as we know I can already run a lot further than half distance she wants me to push pace.

    That plan seems so terribly odd to me. I would venture a guess that it's an exception rather than the rule but if it works for you, it works for you. I guess experienced runners can get by with that kind of mileage if they already have the legs/conditioning for the distance and aren't looking to really push performance but wow, only two running sessions per week is nuts.

    I actually run 7 days a week. I'm doing a running streak of at least a mile a day.
    2 days a week I run the distance the plan asks for (some days on top of the mile as I run down from school drop off to PT.
    On Wednesdays I do a technique session with my PT, this could be hills, sprints, form or more likely a mix and usually ends up being around 3.5k.
    Also on Wednesdays I do a sprint interval session, I take a slow 1km to warm up as I get to the path I like to use, then do around 2-2.5km worth of sprint intervals before taking a gentle jog back home to cool down (this week Wednesdays total was around 7.5km)
    Along with running I do another 4x PT sessions a week, I also attend up to 10 high intensity classes a week and strength train 3x week. I physically couldn't do any more and if I were going above the 17.5km i would probably have to drop something as I did when marathon training.
    I may not be fast but I only ever try and beat myself and I have great stamina and am able to recover very quickly (I was back doing bum to floor squats the day after running a marathon).
  • CarvedTones
    CarvedTones Posts: 2,340 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    firef1y72 wrote: »

    I'm using a slightly modified myasics plan. I've got it set to 2xruns a week, one shorter 7-10.5km and one longer 7-17.5km plus I do a technique session with my PT 1xweek. Only in the first couple of weeks this time round, but followed the same app for marathon training. The last 2 long runs before tapering are 17km at pace which is ever so slightly slower than race pace. Mind the MYASICS does ask me to go a lot slower than my running pace, so my PT gets me to just use it for when and how far I should be running and as we know I can already run a lot further than half distance she wants me to push pace.

    That plan seems so terribly odd to me. I would venture a guess that it's an exception rather than the rule but if it works for you, it works for you. I guess experienced runners can get by with that kind of mileage if they already have the legs/conditioning for the distance and aren't looking to really push performance but wow, only two running sessions per week is nuts.

    I ran 2 or 3 times a week before my first half. My bread and butter run was 6 miles, but I ran a few 10s and a 12. For a week before the race, I ran nothing but 6s so I wouldn't need recovery from recent runs right before I ran the half. It worked out okay; I ran the half at a slightly better pace than I usually ran the 6s.
  • reginakarl
    reginakarl Posts: 68 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    firef1y72 wrote: »
    I hadn't run (and I use that in the loosest sense of the word as I used run/walk intervals) more than 10km before I did my first half and I finished. With my second I hadn't run more than 2km without stopping to walk and ran the first 20km. I don't know what plan the op is using but my long runs in my training plan for August are certainly not at easy pace, they're at race pace. I have never done the full distance in training for a half or above. Well I did for my last half but that was a training run for a marathon in itself.

    To the op, I really wouldn't break the long runs up, you're not building the mental strength to go that little bit further without stopping and for me that's an important aspect. It would be much better to run the 4 miles beforehand and then continue on with the social 3 miles.

    What training plan are you using? I don't claim to be an expert on this, but the training plans that I've seen all have a weekly long run at easy pace with a distance that approaches the ultimate race distance over time. It's a common basic key to conditioning.

    Race pace runs are also common, but they're usually relatively short and infrequent (for example, 10K at race pace a month in front of a half marathon). I don't think I've ever seen a plan that has you running the full race distance at race pace before the actual race itself?

    I'm using one of Hal Hidgon plans that has speed work, long distances, and cross training.
  • steplaj
    steplaj Posts: 586 Member
    edited May 2018
    Hi everyone

    I have a group called the FAT2FIT WEIGHT LOSS CHALLENGE and SUPPORT GROUP... We have a lot of runners and walkers in our group and I would love to add more. Please take a minute or two and check out our group. Be sure to stop in a couple of the team chats and see all the posting our members are doing in regard to running and steps. If you like the group, join us - we'd love to have you with us!

    Thanks

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/114605-weight-loss-challenge-and-support-group
  • pomegranatecloud
    pomegranatecloud Posts: 812 Member
    If I were you I’d start the run earlier and then do the last 3 miles with the group or modify your plan so you do your long runs on a different day and have Saturday as an easy short run. But ultimately it depends what your goal is. If your goal is just to finish the half then you’ll be fine doing as you’re doing.

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