Sort of confused with glycogen, hunger, and water weight
justinkimcentral
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So typically theres a large feeling of hunger the next day after a cheat day or something. I work out fasted so itd be obvious that id be hungry towards the end but yesterday was my sisters birthday so i had maybe 2 rolls of sushi which really isn't a cheat anyways. And i hear you also lose lots of water weight from weight lifting which i realize when weighing myself daily after workout vs before. However today i was extremely hungry throughout the whole workout and i thought that meant my glycogen was depleted so i thought i would also be lighter in addition to the water weight supposedly lost in weights training. However when i weighed myself i was about 3 pounds heavier than i typcailly am after a workout. The feeling of more hunger while weighing more made no sense
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There are all sorts of psychological and physiological aspects that affect the feeling of hunger, and multiple variables that can affect day-to-day weight fluctuations. I don't think it's possible to really nail it down. Maybe others will be by with more concrete info, but unless you are being monitored in a lab, I'm not sure there is a good answer to this!5
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Are you trying to be in ketosis?
Weightlifting is an anaerobic activity, so it's simply not going to be draining your glycogen stores by any substantial amount.
Regarding your hunger, weigh your food and log it accurately. Eat to fuel your life.
Regarding water weight, your body keeps the water it needs from the abundance you drink. That's a good thing.2 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Weightlifting is an anaerobic activity, so it's simply not going to be draining your glycogen stores by any substantial amount...
Weight lifting most certainly does utilize/deplete your glycogen stores. Glycogenolysis (the breaking down of glycogen to liberate glucose) is what drives ATP resynthesis, and ATP is what powers your muscles.
Other than that, I agree that OP is majoring in the minors.8 -
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Agree with Jerome. Don’t sweat the daily mechanics of your bodily processes. Just eat to feed your workouts with mostly good food and stay hydrated.4
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Agreed about majoring in the minors.
Op your mixing up a bunch of stuff and making this way harder than it has to be.6 -
Agree with everyone else. You are way overthinking. And really, glycogen levels have absolutely nothing to do with hunger.3
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There are too many variables to predict what the scale will say and it is best not to set expectations based on previous results. I have had upswings of 3-5lbs of water that lasted 8 days and some gone as fast as 2.2
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justinkimcentral wrote: »So typically theres a large feeling of hunger the next day after a cheat day or something. I work out fasted so itd be obvious that id be hungry towards the end but yesterday was my sisters birthday so i had maybe 2 rolls of sushi which really isn't a cheat anyways. And i hear you also lose lots of water weight from weight lifting which i realize when weighing myself daily after workout vs before. However today i was extremely hungry throughout the whole workout and i thought that meant my glycogen was depleted so i thought i would also be lighter in addition to the water weight supposedly lost in weights training. However when i weighed myself i was about 3 pounds heavier than i typcailly am after a workout. The feeling of more hunger while weighing more made no sense
I'm disturbed that you even considered that 2 rolls of sushi might be a cheat.
I'm equally disturbed that you're puzzled about being hungry after a workout, not to mention it being a fasted workout.
How many net calories do you eat weekly?6 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Weightlifting is an anaerobic activity, so it's simply not going to be draining your glycogen stores by any substantial amount...
Weight lifting most certainly does utilize/deplete your glycogen stores. Glycogenolysis (the breaking down of glycogen to liberate glucose) is what drives ATP resynthesis, and ATP is what powers your muscles.
Other than that, I agree that OP is majoring in the minors.
It's lucky you didn't mention myocytes or glycolysis because you've got enough undeserved woos already. I have no idea why correct information gets woos so often -- maybe it's because of the big words.5 -
If you're trying to determine that precise of an action-reaction curve for your weight changes you're going to end up quite befuddled.
Use a trending weight app or web site and enjoy the benefits of technology!
Two sushi rolls for a male a cheat, hey? Fasted workouts too? Why am I thinking here that @Orphia hit it right on the head and you're trying for >1000 Cal a day deficits when, quite possibly, even 1000 Cal might be too much of a deficit for you right now?
If you're used to eating low carb, high carbs will result in water weight gains that will go away. Eating sushi with soy sauce usually results in a water weight spike due to sodium.
Feeling extremely hungry if severely under-eating is desirable as it will likely force you to stop doing so!
If IF is your preferred way of eating because it helps you achieve your desired deficit, then IF is useful to you! If, however, you are working out fasted in pursuit of some mythical performance advantage, well, at the level you're operating, the advantage is mythical, and you're making life harder for no net benefit!3
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