Need help and advice to lose more weight and achieve a cyclist (climber) body.
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Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.0 -
Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.
Wasn't disagreeing with you.
Was trying to point out to OP that his weight goal, at his height, probably won't lead to the results he's seeking.
And it is very rare to consistently achieve personal bests as related to athletics like cycling or running while on a severe cut.3 -
Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.
Wasn't disagreeing with you.
Was trying to point out to OP that his weight goal, at his height, probably won't lead to the results he's seeking.
And it is very rare to consistently achieve personal bests as related to athletics like cycling or running while on a severe cut.
Ah ok yeah that makes sense. And while I don't know if anyone has said this outright to the OP, but no successful professional cyclist is eating 1000-1,300 net calories regardless of their BMI. I find it sad that I more or less said the exact same thing in a different thread, but with a broader scope and addressing a smaller amount of net calories, maybe 12 hours ago.0 -
Also the professional cyclists are on performance enhancing drugs. Don't forget that fact.4
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Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.
Wasn't disagreeing with you.
Was trying to point out to OP that his weight goal, at his height, probably won't lead to the results he's seeking.
And it is very rare to consistently achieve personal bests as related to athletics like cycling or running while on a severe cut.
Ah ok yeah that makes sense. And while I don't know if anyone has said this outright to the OP, but no successful professional cyclist is eating 1000-1,300 net calories regardless of their BMI. I find it sad that I more or less said the exact same thing in a different thread, but with a broader scope and addressing a smaller amount of net calories, maybe 12 hours ago.
and with that weight goal his body would have to be ridiculously undeveloped in order to build/maintain the thigh/leg muscles necessary for climbing...2 -
Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.
Wasn't disagreeing with you.
Was trying to point out to OP that his weight goal, at his height, probably won't lead to the results he's seeking.
And it is very rare to consistently achieve personal bests as related to athletics like cycling or running while on a severe cut.
Ah ok yeah that makes sense. And while I don't know if anyone has said this outright to the OP, but no successful professional cyclist is eating 1000-1,300 net calories regardless of their BMI. I find it sad that I more or less said the exact same thing in a different thread, but with a broader scope and addressing a smaller amount of net calories, maybe 12 hours ago.
Now I'm curious as to successful professional cyclists' net and gross calories.0 -
@kshama2001, you asked-
Between 4000-7000 cals.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2016/07/18/fueling-the-peloton-in-the-tour-de-france/amp/
Not the most scientific source but hope it quenches your curiosity.
Cheers, h.
ETA: I think that may be low.1 -
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Thanks, it was a benign brain tumor. An amazing recovery all told. He got really good at making protein rich cheesecakes to bump up his cals while he was recovering.
Cheers, h.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Here is a discussion about leanness and cycling and the perils of going too lean. Apparently there aren't any professional male riders who weigh less than 60 kg. Maybe you should check if your goals are realistic?
https://cyclingtips.com/2011/11/the-pursuit-of-leanness/
That's simply not true as of now (or even of a few years ago) and I'm not sure where you got that stat from (it doesn't appear to be in the article you linked). A very quick google search, aided by my following professional cycling, showed that a number of current professional cyclists are 60kg (132lbs) or lighter. Some of them are currently on their way to climbing up alpe d'huez (at the Tour de France) as I type this. Mind you most of the people I found in my five minute search are shorter than the OP, but not all of them are.
That doesn't mean that I think that the OP should strive to be that light. I think the logical thing would be to train specifically for climbing and probably to get a coach to aid in that depending on what his non-weight specific goals are. As others have noted, the OP isn't a professional athlete. He (likely) doesn't have a series of coaches, riding isn't his literal job, he doesn't have a series of soigneurs, he doesn't have a nutritionist and/or chef who specializes in feeding professional cyclists, etc.
Most of the current big-name riders (Cavendish, Froome, Sagan) weigh more than 60 kg--but that's because most of them are taller than 5'9" (longer levers/physics/and all of that). Most of them are in the 20-ish BMI range.
But I don't doubt that there are other riders on the tour who are shorter or have different body composition... It's kind of like track and field--sprinters have denser bodies with massive thighs, and the distance competitors tend to be longer and leaner.
I don't think we're disagreeing.
Wasn't disagreeing with you.
Was trying to point out to OP that his weight goal, at his height, probably won't lead to the results he's seeking.
And it is very rare to consistently achieve personal bests as related to athletics like cycling or running while on a severe cut.
Ah ok yeah that makes sense. And while I don't know if anyone has said this outright to the OP, but no successful professional cyclist is eating 1000-1,300 net calories regardless of their BMI. I find it sad that I more or less said the exact same thing in a different thread, but with a broader scope and addressing a smaller amount of net calories, maybe 12 hours ago.
Now I'm curious as to successful professional cyclists' net and gross calories.
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/this-is-what-you-have-to-eat-to-compete-in-the-tour-de-france-182775
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