any other ladies in menopause out there?

watcherII
watcherII Posts: 56 Member
edited September 30 in Health and Weight Loss
i had surgery 2 months ago, where they removed both ovaries. needless to say, this kicked me headfirst into menopause, at age 45. i find i'm having at least as many weight loss challenges from the menopause as from the surgery. so, i was wondering if there are any other "change of lifers" like me out there, and how they are dealing with the unique challenges it brings.

i'm always starving these days, and have overwhelming cravings. some days i feel so fatigued i can hardly get out of bed, let alone exercise. but the worst thing for me is the hot flashes. i know that exercise helps all these symptoms, and have had some relief due to my increased activity, but trying to exercise when you feel like you might burst into flame is just not that fun! i would love any tips or advice any of you women can offer. thanks!

oh, and feel free to add me!
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  • Neize
    Neize Posts: 301 Member
    I'm 45 as well and yes I've been post menopausal for over 9 years! My doctor finally made me take iron pills because I was tired all the time so, now I'm diagnosed with anemia. When I starting feeling hungry all of the time I had carrot stick and other healthy snacks available! Good Luck! Feel free to add me !
  • gal511
    gal511 Posts: 1
    So sorry to hear of your problems...yes, I had menopause hit several years ago...but little weight gain until now!!! and whoa you are right...starving and tired...why!!!???? I need something to keep me on target--I work a sedentary job and will be 61 in a few months. Have never had to diet my entire life and now I have no idea what to do!!!! So let me know how you are doing. I had to go to hormones...nothing else worked and then I had to change to a different one after a while. I was hot, irritable, sleep impaired, hungry, tired...you name it! I wish you the best!:flowerforyou:

    Susie
  • tladame
    tladame Posts: 465 Member
    Howdy from hot flash central!

    I'm 41 and hit perimenopause at age 40, less than a year after having my daughter. Go figure! I get bad cravings sometimes too. Once I eat something "bad", I just want more! The only advice I have is to just keep all junk foods out of your house. I won't eat it if it isn't there. But I did do some damage to a bag of olive oil and rosemary chips over the weekend...:sick:

    I'm dealing with the hot flashes as best I can. I've heard that soy isoflavones or dong quai are supposed to be good supplements. i just started using dong quai (soy apparently messes with your thyroid, so I couldn't take them). Hopefully it will help. My doctor suggested I take birth control pills to replace the hormones I'm losing, but I'm resistant to go that route. Those middle-of-the-night sweats are the WORST! Its funny, I'm one of those people who is always cold. And now this.

    Maybe we can create a virtual "menopause snack bar" where we can pretend that we're face-down in a bowl of Ben & Jerry's. :wink:
  • watcherII
    watcherII Posts: 56 Member
    wow, thank for the encouragement, ladies! i've done a lot of reading, and doctors say that the best "natural remedy" for our symptoms is a balanced diet and exercise, so we're ahead of the game already!
  • absolutely bumping this ;)
  • Dottie27
    Dottie27 Posts: 159 Member
    bump
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Yup, 49 and been having terrible hot flashes for the past 6 months.

    I discussed HRT with my doctor, but am unwilling to go that route - she suggested that soy is nearly as effective, so that's what I'm trying. I take a soy multi-vit tablet every day, and also drink soy milk and yoghurt, soy desserts (boy they're good!) linseeds, and roast soy beans. Oh and I also wear a magnet in my knickers :wink:

    I've recently changed my attitude: it's not life-threatening or dangerous, just very very uncomfortable. So why don't I take steps to deal with the discomfort. I ordered myself some gorgeous special nightgowns that wick away sweat, and those really help me to get a better nights sleep. I keep a facecloth under my pillow to wipe around my face and head if I wake up, and keep a bottle of cold water beside my bed.

    During the day, I always carry a little mini fan in my handbag, and have a bottle of water on hand to press against my wrist or cheeks when a flush starts. Deep breathing during a flush helps to minimise it too.

    Always on the lookout for more tips!
  • PamDW
    PamDW Posts: 246
    Me too! Luckily my hot flashes hit in the evening and overnight... the dreaded night sweats! I exercise early morning on my way to work, usually I am at my best at that time and not often dealing with the hot flashes. I also tend to keep healthy choices for my cravings.... my latest is stouffers animal crackers. They go a long way with little calories... but I also keep celery and cauliflower around too. (cauliflower is a good filler and even good with peanut butter). My worse offense is being moody. I can be real sweet one minute and want to hit the wall the next. I hate that.
  • Daffydilly
    Daffydilly Posts: 29 Member
    bump
  • I hit menopause super early (hot flashes started in my early 30s and full on menopause by 35). Eventually I took my doctor's advice to try HRT using a compounded cream. In my experience it was a huge mistake. The hot flashes stopped, but I gained 20 lbs in about 2 months and about 5 lbs of that was in my chest. The mood swings were awful, too. So now I've stopped taking the HRT but can't seem to lose any weight and also feel starving most of the time. It's like I never get full. I am exercising about 3-4 times a week, but my schedule doesn't allow for more than that. I have not lost an ounce and it gets really frustrating. But at least the mood swings are almost taken care of! Soy and sweet potatoes seem to help with the hot flashes.
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Sweet potatoes, really? hadn't heard that one - but any excuse to make fabulous sweet potato mash (nuke for 5 minutes, mash with olive oil and black pepper, I know what I'm having for dinner tonight!)
  • hydranger
    hydranger Posts: 23 Member
    Have you considered HRT? I had a full hysterectomy including ovaries when I was 40 and because I was so young I was advised to take HRT to protect my bones until I was of "normal" menopause age, I stayed on it for 10 years and really had no problems whatsoever with it. When I got to 50 I stopped taking it and hit full menopause, the symptoms included weight gain (especially around my middle) hot flushes, tiredness etc... It does stop eventually, it lasted 2 years for me but the weight gain doesn't stop, I have been dieting recently and lost 7lbs and am going to continue untill I lose at least another 7lb. Exercise and being a normal BMI really helps as does not drinking wine.

    If you want to go down the natural route there is a recipe for HRT Cake, I didn't try it myself but lots of ladies on another fourm swore by it, it doesn't contain HRT but it has ingredients in it known to help with symptoms. I don't have the recipe but Google it and lots of ladies use soya milk.
  • Cooriander
    Cooriander Posts: 2,848 Member
    I started p-menop. 2 years ago (at age 45), my heat flashes are mostly during the day andgives me headaches for the rest of the day. Heavy exercise really do help keeping away... most of the time. I gained weight too ugh, thighs and stomach.... never had a stomach before.... wondering if it is possible to get the chubbies of the stomach off again (it is like a fat layer). I have lost weight but not in the stomach area it seems....
  • Mom2rh
    Mom2rh Posts: 612 Member
    Hey...full on Meno here too, I'm 48 and started kind of early as well. I tried HRT for a bit and packed on 7 pounds as I found myself STARVING. I'd rather have hot flashes.

    I did some reading when I started back here in March. And some of what I read is that women in "our condition" are more insulin resistant which just means we don't process carbs as well as we used to. So I have cut way way back in the carbs I eat. Something I said I would never do...but I finally got motivated enough to do it. So I rarely eat bread, pasta, potatoes, rice. Most of my carbs come from fruits and veggies. I try to eat more protein. And the rest is just basic common sense....clean eating, no processed foods, etc.
  • terryrob2
    terryrob2 Posts: 76 Member
    Hi had to go thru this at 25. I had full on e ndometrios iv been ok off and on for a while now at 49 its starting again only have one. ovarie doctor told me to use black koulish(spelled wrong) can be found in Estroven it helps me hope it helps we should start a group friend me if you want
  • Debi907
    Debi907 Posts: 69 Member
    Always glad to see women, and men, closer to my age on MFP! Feel free to add me too. Good luck!
  • I had a total hysterectomy at 39 and went on HRT immediately. I'd already been overweight for several years at that point and it didn't seem to me the HRT made a difference in my weight. Interestingly, I'd always suffered terrible mood swings before the hysterectomy and they smoothed out a lot afterwards! I know of another woman who had the same experience. I think having a steady dose of estrogen in my system, as opposed to the normal monthly highs and lows, really helped me maintain a steady mood. I do notice that on day 6 or 7 of my patch (I change it weekly) I start to have hot flashes.
  • mermx
    mermx Posts: 976
    I`m 51 and have hot flashes all day & night for the last 6 months. Sometimes I can have up to 10 in an hour, my arms, chest and face go like a beetroot and I sweat like I`ve just run a marathon lol. Luckily thats the only symptoms am having (hopefully, I can get away with just the flashes?)

    My mum had HRT and she made me swear that I would never use it as she got breast cancer which she blamed on the HRT as she and her friend both started HRT at the same time and both developed breast cancer. Sadly, they have both passed away, but I will honour her wishes :-)
  • mermx
    mermx Posts: 976
    Forgot to say also, that do any of you get a strange feeling come over you just before you are going to get a hot flash, I get this awful feeling, it reminds me `home sickness` like I used to get when I was a kid, just a really weird feeling hard to describe
  • nanegan
    nanegan Posts: 39 Member
    I originally opted out of HRT. But, I became a totally different person - and not in a good way. I was encouraged to make an appointment with a SottoPelle doctor and it was the best thing that could've happened to me (and my husband). This is an implant that lasts from 4 -6 months depending on how much your body uses the hormones. I did gain a little weight but I am not having too much of a problem losing it now that I am active again.

    Good luck!
  • Goal4Good
    Goal4Good Posts: 115
    I know exactly what you are going through! I had to have both of my ovaries removed last year because they started malfunctioning and producing testosterone in massive amounts. The only solution was to remove them and yes, immediate menopause. (Still have my uterus.) I dealt with a number of menopausal issues as a result and upon the advice of my doctor (who is a woman BTW) I am using a low dose Combipatch to control my symptoms. While I could handle the other stuff that comes with menopause and the weight gain, I absolutely could not deal with the awful (REALLY AWFUL) mood swings due to the hormone changes in my body. So that's why I use it. I'd been having hot flashes and night sweating and all that other stuff way back before I had the ovaries removed.

    I am 50 and when I reach 52 or 53, she is going to try and see if I can come off of it. I'm going to try and get off but she said I needed to wait a bit longer till I was closer to menopausal age. However, if the over the top mood swings come back to the point that I can''t handle them, I'll slap that puppy right back on and take my chances I guess. It makes everything in my world right. Without it........whoa buddy!!! Its bad. REAL bad.

    I did gain weight in my middle FAST after my surgery. Then to further complicate things, I had to have another surgery on a hernia and yet another one on something else. I had 3 surgeries in one year. That put me off my feet for nearly a year and I went down fast physically from a formerly very active lifestyle. But I'm all healed up now, and feeling better than I ever have. I've lost 14 lbs since starting MFP 50 days ago and am doing great. Sure, its harder to lose the weight now (especially around my middle) but it IS coming off so I'm very encouraged by that!

    I can say it gets better but it took a bit longer than I thought it would. Good Luck!
  • msiamjan
    msiamjan Posts: 326 Member
    Hi--Surgical menopause here too. I had my surgery at the end of March. In addition to this website I found hystersisters website to have a lot of useful information and a forum of very supportive women going through the same sort of things. Nice to see/hear from other women at this interesting stage of life.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
    My wife exercises a lot and she surrounds herself with fans maybe 3' from her when she is working out.
    Seems to work and she looks great.
  • olso123
    olso123 Posts: 192 Member
    Hi, had a partial hysterectomy in my early 40's and even though I had my ovaries I went into menopause....the doctor said that some women even though the ovaries are still intact they can still shut down and put you into perimenopause stage. I am 52 now and still dealing with symptoms. I also have an under active thyroid that I take meds for ..... between the two I have a double whamming for the metabolism to go crazy. I am fatigued often however, I have always pushed myself to stay active.....I am a ballroom dancer and do that several times a week along with strength training.....I find the more I exercise and keep moving the better I am both physically and mentally. Fortunately for me I never had to worry about what I ate until the last 4 years. I have put several pounds on each year and have not been able to get it off. Although I am not overweight I want to be back to the weight that I have been throughout my adult life.....I want to fit into my smaller previous wardrobe that is waiting patiently in my closet! I found this site through a friend at work and I am finding it so helpful, as well as it is so nice to bond with those that are in a similar situation. Any of you menopause gals that want support or motivation feel free to friend me.
  • Forgot to say also, that do any of you get a strange feeling come over you just before you are going to get a hot flash, I get this awful feeling, it reminds me `home sickness` like I used to get when I was a kid, just a really weird feeling hard to describe

    I know that feeling but it has nothing to do with my hot flashes. I've had it off and on my whole adult life, it's like a really sad, empty feeling, but takes the form of a physical "ache". I literally feel like I'm "empty". It is very hard to describe, but thankfully only lasts a few seconds. I used to think it was related to depression but I don't anymore. I never thought of it as having a physical cause, like hormone fluctuations, but that makes sense.
  • milaxx
    milaxx Posts: 1,122 Member
    Shortly after I turned 40 I developed uterine cancer and had to have a radical hysterectomy, so yes, I know what it's like to be thrust suddenly into menopause. Fortunately I had a good surgeon and he was able to do my surgery laproscopically which meant I was up and walking around fairly quickly. The hard part is the hot flashes, but I have found the healthier I am the lessor the effects are. Also the better I eat and the more I work out the better I feel. I think the first yer was the most challenging as I got adjusted to the changes in my body. The biggest challenge is that it may be a bit harder to lose weight. I have to say after joining MFP and changing my eating habits, along with getting regular exercise I feel better than I have in years. One thing I can say with certainty, I do not miss getting a period every month.
  • milaxx
    milaxx Posts: 1,122 Member
    Hi--Surgical menopause here too. I had my surgery at the end of March. In addition to this website I found hystersisters website to have a lot of useful information and a forum of very supportive women going through the same sort of things. Nice to see/hear from other women at this interesting stage of life.
    Hystersisters was very helpful for me as well. haven't been on that site in years, but at the time it was a great resource.
  • JoMFrasca
    JoMFrasca Posts: 61 Member
    I am almost 11 years post menopause, having had a hysterectomy where they took everything, including both ovaries, due to endometriosis. I had a hard time on HRT. The patches gave me migraines. Finally ended up with bioidentical estrogen, which I
    took for 5 years and all the awful symptoms went away. After that, I decided to taper off HRT completely and have not had any since. I did gain a lot of weight post surgery, which I lost and then, in the last few years, regained. I just lost almost all of it again and this time am going to do a very long maintenance program so it stays of for good.

    At 57, it is harder to lose the weight but not impossible. It just comes off a little slower, but hopefully that will help it stay off. Now that I have lost 40 pounds and exercise regularly, I feel 10 years younger. MFP is an important tool that helps me stay on track. I feel great! Even though I take no HRT I have no real symptoms at all. Once in a blue moon I get a little warm but no real hot flashes or any of the other terrible symptoms I experienced right after the surgery. Give it time if you are just starting out -- it gets much better over time!

    Feel free to add me as a friend. I log on to MFP every day.
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Making HRT cake this evening!
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Hmmmmm, well the cake is quite dense and chewy - if I make it again I'll add more ginger.

    According to the recipe tool it's a whopping 275 calories per slice! But 12g of protein, from all those seeds, so one slice for breakfast, or half a slice for snack wouldn't be too bad. I shall see how well it lasts.
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