Calories burned per walking step

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I've noticed that MFP reckons my 12,700 step walk has burned up 240 calories. That seems a very low figure. Most sources I read estimate that an average person burns around 100 calories for each 2,000 steps. Why is the figure from MFP so low?
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  • RoyBeck
    RoyBeck Posts: 947 Member
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    The formula for walking is weight in lbsx0.3xmiles walked. I average 2300 steps per mile. Based on that 12700 steps is 5.5 miles for me.
  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    edited August 2018
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    Are you manually logging a workout, or is this being synced as part of 24/7 activity tracking?


    Speaking more generally... I've seen 100 cals per mile as an accepted estimate for running, but I would think walking would be far lower than that... probably half of that.
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,660 Member
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    Here's a fun experiment. If you complete your 12,000 steps early in the day, it will give a larger calorie adjustment than if you take that 12,000th step late at night. This is because your fitness tracker is not alloting a specified number of calories per step, but rather calculating how many calories you have burned beyond the activity level you specified with MFP when you set up your profile.
  • mazdauk
    mazdauk Posts: 1,380 Member
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    Your calorie burn will depend on both your weight and your speed - when I log my walk to work, if I log 13 mins at 3.5mph it is the same burn as 15 mins at 3mph (which fortunately equals a gin and slimline tonic!). I use my garmin to measure the distance I have walked then work out the speed based on how long it has taken, taking off time spent queuing e.g. at a checkout. I only track "deliberate" walks - i.e. walks going somewhere such as shopping trips or a walk for exercise. General steps walking round the house or office I consider part of my base activity level and don't count.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,874 Member
    edited August 2018
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    I estimate no more than 200 calories per hour when walking ... more likely 180 cal.
    In an hour I walk at least 5 km and at most 6 km
    According to this converter, 5 km = 6561.68 and 6 km = 7874.02
    http://www.kylesconverter.com/length/kilometers-to-steps

    So maybe 100 cal per 3600 steps?
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
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    Are you using something like fitbit? If so, then my understanding is that it's fitbit - or the difference between fitbit and MFP calculations - that affects the calories burned estimate
    The person above is right ; I have also noticed it depends on the time of day. Plus calories burned depends on your weight (I think)-I weigh around 128 lbs and burn less when walking than a heavier person does
  • chris_blunt
    chris_blunt Posts: 6 Member
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    Thanks for the replies. My steps are being counted by my iPhone, and I have the Fitbit and Pacer apps installed. Those apps seem to sync together and they all report that my 12,700 steps are equal to 9.1 km and correspond to 530 calories with an active walk time of 2 hours 53 minutes. I'm currently 83 kgs. It's only MFP that says I've only burned 240 calories.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    edited September 2018
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    100 per 2000 steps....Probably a little high i guess it depends on the persons weight...id say between like 50-80 depending on weight..... Most days i walk around 20k steps average and i add 400-600 calories to my day depending on hunger. But in general id say i burn about 50-60 extra calories per mile which for me is 2kish steps and from past data obese me was around 80-90 i guess, So ya depends on weight and fitness but i agree 240 seems low if you are overweight, But i imagine thats just what you earned OVER your set activity level
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
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    Thanks for the replies. My steps are being counted by my iPhone, and I have the Fitbit and Pacer apps installed. Those apps seem to sync together and they all report that my 12,700 steps are equal to 9.1 km and correspond to 530 calories with an active walk time of 2 hours 53 minutes. I'm currently 83 kgs. It's only MFP that says I've only burned 240 calories.

    Experiment a little........

    Log all 530 calories as exercise (eat those calories back) and see if you continue to lose weight at your expected rate. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the "number" is. What matters instead is how that number fits your MFP settings, your food intake measurement, etc.

    You can be over on food intake and under on exercise and lose weight at the expected rate, or visa versa. Your expected rate of loss will be the bottom line.

    Many people here find FitBits to be pretty accurate. This thread is super helpful: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10098937/faq-syncing-logging-food-exercise-calorie-adjustments-activity-levels-accuracy/p1
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    TeaBea wrote: »
    Experiment a little........

    Log all 530 calories as exercise (eat those calories back) and see if you continue to lose weight at your expected rate. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the "number" is. What matters instead is how that number fits your MFP settings, your food intake measurement, etc.

    You can be over on food intake and under on exercise and lose weight at the expected rate, or visa versa. Your expected rate of loss will be the bottom line.

    I'm very happy with my rate of weight loss. I'm consuming between 800 and 900 calories a day and losing around 2kgs per week. Down 20kgs since the beginning of July. My BMR has dropped from around 1,900 to 1,700 calories/day, so I'm having to exercise more as time passes to make up for that.

    you are only eating 900 calories? why?
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
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    TeaBea wrote: »
    Experiment a little........

    Log all 530 calories as exercise (eat those calories back) and see if you continue to lose weight at your expected rate. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the "number" is. What matters instead is how that number fits your MFP settings, your food intake measurement, etc.

    You can be over on food intake and under on exercise and lose weight at the expected rate, or visa versa. Your expected rate of loss will be the bottom line.

    I'm very happy with my rate of weight loss. I'm consuming between 800 and 900 calories a day and losing around 2kgs per week. Down 20kgs since the beginning of July. My BMR has dropped from around 1,900 to 1,700 calories/day, so I'm having to exercise more as time passes to make up for that.

    you are only eating 900 calories? why?

    And losing 2 kgs a week? Isn't that a bit drastic?
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
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    TeaBea wrote: »
    Experiment a little........

    Log all 530 calories as exercise (eat those calories back) and see if you continue to lose weight at your expected rate. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the "number" is. What matters instead is how that number fits your MFP settings, your food intake measurement, etc.

    You can be over on food intake and under on exercise and lose weight at the expected rate, or visa versa. Your expected rate of loss will be the bottom line.

    I'm very happy with my rate of weight loss. I'm consuming between 800 and 900 calories a day and losing around 2kgs per week. Down 20kgs since the beginning of July. My BMR has dropped from around 1,900 to 1,700 calories/day, so I'm having to exercise more as time passes to make up for that.

    That's well below the recommendations for a healthy rate of weight loss.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Thanks for the replies. My steps are being counted by my iPhone, and I have the Fitbit and Pacer apps installed. Those apps seem to sync together and they all report that my 12,700 steps are equal to 9.1 km and correspond to 530 calories with an active walk time of 2 hours 53 minutes. I'm currently 83 kgs. It's only MFP that says I've only burned 240 calories.

    Whatever MFP activity level you selected, even sedentary, expected you to burn so many calories daily already.

    MFP does not do any math converting steps to calories burned.
    It is receiving a daily calories burned figure from whatever you are syncing from. (caveat - Apple is NOT sending the same info and if that is what MFP is getting it from, you are getting an adjustment too low.)

    If the Exercise Diary says Fitbit adjustment, it's merely the difference between what it reported and what MFP was already expecting.

    So some of what you burned was already planned on - the 240 adjustment was the extra.
    You could have a massive workout and sleep more of the day and get no adjustment.
    You could have no workout and merely more active and get a big adjustment.

    Also, all these apps are making calculations on averages for like calorie burn, base and movement combined, for avg person your gender, age, height, weight.

    You keep losing muscle mass like you are undoubtably doing now and it's estimate will be farther off than even normal potential.

    Unless you are pretty short, 83 kgs isn't that overweight to support a deficit of that much (which I'm sure your body has adapted by now and it isn't anymore) and I'm betting no Dr would support that, even research studies are on obese people for that kind of deficit.

    You've already comment how much more you need to exercise to compensate for lost weight - imagine what happens if (or when) you get sick and can't exercise - how little must you eat then just to maintain.
  • CarvedTones
    CarvedTones Posts: 2,340 Member
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    It's practically impossible to come up with a calculation that will always be very close to correct. I often walk a hill near me that is so steep that both up and down are harder than level ground. Down is hard because I am constantly fighting acceleration that would end up with me face down. My thighs ache at the bottom and my calves ache at the top. I have another route that is almost dead level. Huge difference in burn. A HRM might help.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
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    TeaBea wrote: »
    Experiment a little........

    Log all 530 calories as exercise (eat those calories back) and see if you continue to lose weight at your expected rate. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the "number" is. What matters instead is how that number fits your MFP settings, your food intake measurement, etc.

    You can be over on food intake and under on exercise and lose weight at the expected rate, or visa versa. Your expected rate of loss will be the bottom line.

    I'm very happy with my rate of weight loss. I'm consuming between 800 and 900 calories a day and losing around 2kgs per week. Down 20kgs since the beginning of July. My BMR has dropped from around 1,900 to 1,700 calories/day, so I'm having to exercise more as time passes to make up for that.

    your BMR(what you burn just by being alive) will drop if you eat too little.but how have you gauged that it dropped that much? 900 calories is too little for most toddlers
  • chris_blunt
    chris_blunt Posts: 6 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies. My steps are being counted by my iPhone, and I have the Fitbit and Pacer apps installed. Those apps seem to sync together and they all report that my 12,700 steps are equal to 9.1 km and correspond to 530 calories with an active walk time of 2 hours 53 minutes. I'm currently 83 kgs. It's only MFP that says I've only burned 240 calories.
    Whatever MFP activity level you selected, even sedentary, expected you to burn so many calories daily already.

    MFP does not do any math converting steps to calories burned.
    It is receiving a daily calories burned figure from whatever you are syncing from. (caveat - Apple is NOT sending the same info and if that is what MFP is getting it from, you are getting an adjustment too low.)

    If the Exercise Diary says Fitbit adjustment, it's merely the difference between what it reported and what MFP was already expecting.

    I've just dug a bit more into the figure for calories burned as reported by MFP and a pop-up gives the following information:

    "You're using MFP iOS to measure your actual activity level throughout the day.

    To accurately reflect any extra calories you're burning, we use this data to adjust your daily MyFitnessPal calorie goal.

    This is how we calculate your calorie adjustment:

    MFP iOS Calories Burned
    Full Day Projection
    (Based on 240 calories burned as of 8:57 pm) 2532

    MyFitnessPal Calories Burned
    2292

    MFP iOS Calorie Adjustment
    240"

    So it seems you're right, it is an adjustment.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
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    Surely your bmr is a calculation of the bare minimum of your calorie needs, if you were asleep or in a coma? It doesn't reflect the needs of someone engaging in normal daily activity, let alone exercise?
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