Is fruit in the afternoon bad?
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I have an apple every day on my long commute home instead of a bag of chips and a candy bar. Neither are bad but apple is better.2
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All fruit begins to ripen at 2:00am EDT sharp. That make it ideal to eat your fruit at 6am (3:00am in California). By noon it is at the turning point at which it will begin to compost, rot and fester until it becomes an ugly brown smelly sludge. So yes, eat your fruit in the morning and avoid an embarrassing mess.
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WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
Meeting reasonable macro targets definitely helps with satiety. You don't know the rest of the OPs diet so to eat fruit inside of a macro target I feel is good advice.
I must have missed where OP said she was struggling with hunger and needed advice on satiety?
She is craving fruit. Therefore her diet has not given her satiety.
satiety - the state of being satisfactorily full and unable to take on more
Maybe she is low on carbs which can cause cravings, maybe she is excess in carbs which can also cause cravings, maybe she is deficient in potassium which might cause cravings, we simply don't know. Therefore, I advised to stay within reasonable macro goals and I feel this is sound given we don't know the rest of her diet.
Maybe she's craving fruit because fruit tastes good? Just throwing that out there. Not every craving means a mineral/vitamin deficiency.
Maybe...it does taste good. She can eat all the fruit she wants as long as it doesn't throw her macros totally out of whack it is not going to cause her the first problem. Which is my point. But she said she is craving it after dinner, most people if their macros are right will not have craving.17 -
WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
Meeting reasonable macro targets definitely helps with satiety. You don't know the rest of the OPs diet so to eat fruit inside of a macro target I feel is good advice.
I must have missed where OP said she was struggling with hunger and needed advice on satiety?
She is craving fruit. Therefore her diet has not given her satiety.
satiety - the state of being satisfactorily full and unable to take on more
Maybe she is low on carbs which can cause cravings, maybe she is excess in carbs which can also cause cravings, maybe she is deficient in potassium which might cause cravings, we simply don't know. Therefore, I advised to stay within reasonable macro goals and I feel this is sound given we don't know the rest of her diet.
Maybe she's craving fruit because fruit tastes good? Just throwing that out there. Not every craving means a mineral/vitamin deficiency.
Maybe...it does taste good. She can eat all the fruit she wants as long as it doesn't throw her macros totally out of whack it is not going to cause her the first problem. Which is my point. But she said she is craving it after dinner, most people if their macros are right will not have craving.
People find success, even thrive, on all sorts macro splits: high carb/low fat, low carb/high fat, moderate protein, protein sparing, and even - pay no attention to macros just focus on calories.
If the OP isn’t focusing on macros how will eating fruit throw her macros out of whack and what would the resulting problem be, if her goal is weight loss and she’s still within her calories as she indicated in her first post?10 -
I get the hungries in the afternoon too. I stay on track much better if I have a small snack before I get home with an entire pantry full of temptation staring at me in the face. A small fruit would be about perfect.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
Meeting reasonable macro targets definitely helps with satiety. You don't know the rest of the OPs diet so to eat fruit inside of a macro target I feel is good advice.
I must have missed where OP said she was struggling with hunger and needed advice on satiety?
She is craving fruit. Therefore her diet has not given her satiety.
satiety - the state of being satisfactorily full and unable to take on more
Maybe she is low on carbs which can cause cravings, maybe she is excess in carbs which can also cause cravings, maybe she is deficient in potassium which might cause cravings, we simply don't know. Therefore, I advised to stay within reasonable macro goals and I feel this is sound given we don't know the rest of her diet.
Maybe she's craving fruit because fruit tastes good? Just throwing that out there. Not every craving means a mineral/vitamin deficiency.
Maybe...it does taste good. She can eat all the fruit she wants as long as it doesn't throw her macros totally out of whack it is not going to cause her the first problem. Which is my point. But she said she is craving it after dinner, most people if their macros are right will not have craving.
You can also create a craving from habit. Always having fruit after dinner then suddenly not having it? Oh look, a craving!13 -
Strawberries. Hardly no calories.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
Meeting reasonable macro targets definitely helps with satiety. You don't know the rest of the OPs diet so to eat fruit inside of a macro target I feel is good advice.
I must have missed where OP said she was struggling with hunger and needed advice on satiety?
She is craving fruit. Therefore her diet has not given her satiety.
satiety - the state of being satisfactorily full and unable to take on more
Maybe she is low on carbs which can cause cravings, maybe she is excess in carbs which can also cause cravings, maybe she is deficient in potassium which might cause cravings, we simply don't know. Therefore, I advised to stay within reasonable macro goals and I feel this is sound given we don't know the rest of her diet.
Actually, her OP says she's craving sweets, and she is satisfying that with fruit, which I think is an excellent strategy.13 -
FickleFruitBat wrote: »Sorry that so many users here are chomping at the bit to make others feel stupid for asking beginner questions.
There are zero posts in the thread accusing the OP of being stupid for asking beginner questions. There are a lot of posts accusing the people who gave the OP bad advice of being stupid. Some of them try to use a bit of humor to make the point.18 -
i have heard people say that and i think the reasoning is, it's late in the day and you may or may not burn it off, so your body will store it. But, if you have the urge to eat something sweet is it better to eat fruit or a candy bar. I think making a decision for a natural sugar over something unhealthy is a win every time. I would try to keep it to a minimum late in the day, but fruit almost always gets a bad rap these days. Everyone is on board with keto and low carb stuff.16
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When did sugar beets/sugar cane become unnatural?
No food is inherently healthy/unhealthy (possibly exception for transfats). An overall diet can be, but for the foods making it up, it's about context and dosage. Had lunch four hours ago and about to work out, but want some quick energy? Gimme that Snickers bar.
And your body is metabolizing food 24/7 and doing the lion's share of it while you sleep. Time of day really doesn't matter.6 -
I've never heard of that, or can make any sense of that. It's after 1 in the afternoon and I just had a pear, it was AAAMAZING!!!!1
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danigirl1011 wrote: »i have heard people say that and i think the reasoning is, it's late in the day and you may or may not burn it off, so your body will store it. But, if you have the urge to eat something sweet is it better to eat fruit or a candy bar. I think making a decision for a natural sugar over something unhealthy is a win every time. I would try to keep it to a minimum late in the day, but fruit almost always gets a bad rap these days. Everyone is on board with keto and low carb stuff.
That's one way in which people are mistaken: That's (the bolded) not how bodies work. We're burning and storing energy all day long, every day, including while we're asleep. When you eat a thing doesn't determine whether you'll store those calories long term or not. If you're in a calorie deficit - eating fewer calories than you burn - then eventually that difference comes from stored energy, mostly stored fat.
It's kind of like a checking account: You put dollars (calories) in, you take dollars (calories) out. You don't know, and don't really need to care, which ones are new dollars/calories vs. old ones. If you spend more than you put in, you end up with a declining balance of money, or body fat.
Also, full transit of our digestive system can potentially literally take more than two days (per research studies), and energy extraction can happen during a decent fraction of the process. Thankfully, there's no reason to worry about timing, because it would be a heckuva difficult thing to figure out!
Best wishes!16 -
SweetLove1988 wrote: »Lately after dinner, if I’m craving something sweet I usually eat a fruit. Cherries, grapes, strawberries. I’ve had two separate people tell me that eating fruit late is horrible for you. I’m just wondering everyone’s opinion? Does it really matter on the time you eat fruit? Morning vs night? Why do people think fruit is bad for you?
It looks like you've gotten enough positive feedback on this. As long as it's with in your daily allowance you go right on and enjoy that fruit. I'm about to go to town on a delicious plum myself.
I would just add, when someone tells me something as fact, I tell them to show me supporting documentation from a reputable source. I will also investigate it myself.
Inversely I will try not to give advice unless I have researched it and can provide a reputable source to support my stance.
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kshama2001 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
Meeting reasonable macro targets definitely helps with satiety. You don't know the rest of the OPs diet so to eat fruit inside of a macro target I feel is good advice.
I must have missed where OP said she was struggling with hunger and needed advice on satiety?
She is craving fruit. Therefore her diet has not given her satiety.
satiety - the state of being satisfactorily full and unable to take on more
Maybe she is low on carbs which can cause cravings, maybe she is excess in carbs which can also cause cravings, maybe she is deficient in potassium which might cause cravings, we simply don't know. Therefore, I advised to stay within reasonable macro goals and I feel this is sound given we don't know the rest of her diet.
Actually, her OP says she's craving sweets, and she is satisfying that with fruit, which I think is an excellent strategy.
I agree.1 -
this thread makes me want a parfait.5
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Like many have said, it doesn't matter when you eat it if it fits in your daily caloric or nutritional macro parameters. Unfortunately I learned the hard way for my body type that fruit had other things I needed to stay away from or slow down on like sugar and carbs. I get it though. Fruit is good.3
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danigirl1011 wrote: »i have heard people say that and i think the reasoning is, it's late in the day and you may or may not burn it off, so your body will store it. But, if you have the urge to eat something sweet is it better to eat fruit or a candy bar. I think making a decision for a natural sugar over something unhealthy is a win every time. I would try to keep it to a minimum late in the day, but fruit almost always gets a bad rap these days. Everyone is on board with keto and low carb stuff.
That's not how the human body works though. You burn calories 24/7...most of your calorie burn is you simply existing. You also cannot have net fat storage in a calorie deficit regardless of when you eat something.7 -
Honesly, people in the afternoon are probably worse for you than fruit.19
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The "fruit in the morning" thing comes from the original 1960's weight watchers plan where they wanted to encourage people to eat a balanced breakfast and get the proper amount of vitamin C (a daily orange or other high vitamin C fruit was required) and other nutrients. Fruit didn't go with the suggested dinner meal plans so they wanted you to get it in early.
This is where the banana as a "forbidden fruit" idea came from as well. They apparently weren't allowed on the original plan. New weight watchers lets you eat all the bananas you want ironically.
But as many previous posts have said if you have the calories available for fruit, eat them whenever you like.4 -
If you want fruit, eat fruit. Any time of the day that you want it, eat it. There is nothing wrong with fruit.
As to why people think it is bad, i believe most who say that are scared of the sugar. Fruit sugars come in a great package, along with fiber, vitamins, minerals, phytochemicals and water. It's a lot more nutritious than most foods people eat.4 -
Maybe these people have been talking to diabetics. For people with diabetes, fruits with higher sugar content like mangoes, oranges etc are bad to eat after 8 PM in the night. It has to do with the daily rhythm of hormones etc. But for normal people, it really doesn't matter.
As such it is not "bad" to eat fruit any time of the day as long as 1. you fit in the calories 2. you 'eat' the fruit and not drink it - as in juices. Juices cause rapid spikes in blood sugar soon after drinking and then a sudden crash that causes you to feel sleepy or hungry even though you might have just eaten (because of rapid insulin surges). You can have a little juice with meals but not as a stand alone snack or meal in itself. But even then, I prefer eating the fruit as it has fibre and it fills you up.
There is some research that suggests eating higher carb foods before 3 PM or eating more than half of your calorie allowance before 3 PM helps in burning fat faster. (again because of the hormone rhythms). But I do not think that this is a rule that applies to everyone. Our schedules are different, our bodies are different and our own daily rhythms are different. Our hunger and activity cycles are differnt. One rigid formula cannot work for everyone. Don't fret about these things. Fruits are good for you. Eat them whenever you want.20 -
I saw this in the feed out of the corner of my eye and thought it said "Is the fruit in the bathroom bad?" And I thought, "I would assume so."8
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As long as it part of your nutrition plan, then time of day means nothing - I like nothing better than a handful of grapes in the evening2
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For me, no it doesn't matter when I eat fruit (I just need to watch and make sure I don't eat 3 servings worth haha!) plus, fruit even if I go overboard, is way better for me than the ice cream hubby eats....3
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ChristyRunStarr wrote: »For me, no it doesn't matter when I eat fruit (I just need to watch and make sure I don't eat 3 servings worth haha!) plus, fruit even if I go overboard, is way better for me than the ice cream hubby eats....
i told my wife that i had lactose intolerance because i would feel sick after eating ice cream. she pointed out that perhaps i felt sick because i would eat the entire half gallon.17 -
I have heard the same thing, but I do eat fruit in morning, afternoon and evening. There is some research about fasting from basically any calorie for at least 12-14 hours being a weight loss method. I can barely make 12 myself. Fruit does not equal weight loss murder. There are worse things.8
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Only if it's been fresh
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