How credible is the nutritional fact on restaurants website.
Strengthcamp001
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Last night i was craving pancakes , so i was checking Ihop restaurants website for options that can fit into my calorie intake (i had around 1000 calories left) , i was very surprised to find (according to their website) that 4 strawberry banana pancakes were only 760 calories , i highly doubt it , is this things regulated or restaurants can make up any marcos as they wish to fool their customers ?
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Labels on packaged foods can legally be off by up to 20%. I shouldn't think restaurant foods would be that different. It's going to be around what it says, but it could be over or under. Also, keep in mind that cooks and other food prep people aren't robots. If you order a sub and the calorie count on the website is based on 1tbsp of mayo, but the server's knife managed to scoop up 1.5 tbsp... little things mean a lot.
As for the calories in pancakes, a generic listing (https://www.nutritionix.com/i/usda/pancake-1-large-pancake-7/57619f13b165c79b156e093f) gives 182 for a 7", 80-gram pancake. I don't know how big they are at IHOP, but four of the generic ones come in at 720, so it seems the listing could be legit. Is the fruit in the batter or is it the topping? If it's in the batter, it could be replacing some of the flour and might be lowering the calories3 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »Labels on packaged foods can legally be off by up to 20%. I shouldn't think restaurant foods would be that different. It's going to be around what it says, but it could be over or under. Also, keep in mind that cooks and other food prep people aren't robots. If you order a sub and the calorie count on the website is based on 1tbsp of mayo, but the server's knife managed to scoop up 1.5 tbsp... little things mean a lot.
As for the calories in pancakes, a generic listing (https://www.nutritionix.com/i/usda/pancake-1-large-pancake-7/57619f13b165c79b156e093f) gives 182 for a 7", 80-gram pancake. I don't know how big they are at IHOP, but four of the generic ones come in at 720, so it seems the listing could be legit. Is the fruit in the batter or is it the topping? If it's in the batter, it could be replacing some of the flour and might be lowering the calories
There were pieces of banana on the batter , the strawberry was more like a syrup that was drizzled on the pancakes , in addition to all that they topped it off with whipped cream , doesn't look like a 760 calories food to me0 -
Just checked the site. It looks like they calculate the pancakes separate from the toppings. So the 4 pancakes are 670, the strawberries are 70, and the banana slices 20. The whipped cream would add more, though on the site I checked: https://www.ihop.com/en/nutrition-information it's not listed as part of the item. Vanilla ice cream is.4
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Strengthcamp001 wrote: »Last night i was craving pancakes , so i was checking Ihop restaurants website for options that can fit into my calorie intake (i had around 1000 calories left) , i was very surprised to find (according to their website) that 4 strawberry banana pancakes were only 760 calories , i highly doubt it , is this things regulated or restaurants can make up any marcos as they wish to fool their customers ?
As someone that worked in restaurants and ran them for over ten years, what you get depends greatly on the variable of people. I trained managers how to be managers for one large burger chain for a while. If the person making sandwiches liked mayo, you got three times the mayo assumed by the calorie count. It's extremely variable depending on who makes it. Obviously, training helps with that but none of the fast food places allow enough labor to really train people well. The mid tier places are no better and sometimes even worse. The website is accurate assuming the people do exact portions. When you talk condiments or even salads that are premade, it's can be variable. For instance, if there's a scoop to put cheese that's supposed to be level, the employee puts a rounded scoop, it's different.7 -
That will be one advantage of the automated restaurants, the robots will most likely put on an exact amount of the ingredients.8
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They can be widely variable. Sometimes under, usually protein because it is expensive, to waayy over on carbs and fat, they are cheap. Some things I have read have stated restaurant meals can be over by as much as 50%.0
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I usually go with my gut. If the portions look too good to be true, I assume they probably are and might log something like 1.25 entrees.6
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I tend to trust them, more or less. We eat out a lot so I have to rely on the posted information. So far I've done well as I've lost 100lbs and kept it off for a year.2
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I used to work in the restaurant business.
What to Trust
meat
alcohol
Both of these are very expensive for a restaurant and they will track these both very closely. So that 6oz steak is definitely 6oz, and the glass of wine is definitely a 4oz pour.
What to Semi-Trist
cheese- expensive, but not as much as meat. It is also more likely to be measured by "handful, spoonful, sprinkle etc." if it's sliced cheese, it's more reliable.
soup - is typically a specific recipe or it comes in pre-made to ensure it's the same every time.
baked items/dessert - these usually require a specific recipe that is not changed. Baking is much more of a science.
What Not to Trust
sauce/spread- measured by ladle, squirt, dollop etc.
starch- cheap for restaurants and used as fillers. if the plate looks empty, add more rice/pasta/beans/bread/fries/potatoes/chips etc.
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Restaurants usually don’t weigh and measure the food and the food preparers can be more or less generous with serving sizes. I would just log as the restaurant site says and keep in mind it could easily be more or less calories and move on.0
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I used to work in the restaurant business.
What to Trust
meat
alcohol
Both of these are very expensive for a restaurant and they will track these both very closely. So that 6oz steak is definitely 6oz, and the glass of wine is definitely a 4oz pour.
What to Semi-Trist
cheese- expensive, but not as much as meat. It is also more likely to be measured by "handful, spoonful, sprinkle etc." if it's sliced cheese, it's more reliable.
soup - is typically a specific recipe or it comes in pre-made to ensure it's the same every time.
baked items/dessert - these usually require a specific recipe that is not changed. Baking is much more of a science.
What Not to Trust
sauce/spread- measured by ladle, squirt, dollop etc.
starch- cheap for restaurants and used as fillers. if the plate looks empty, add more rice/pasta/beans/bread/fries/potatoes/chips etc.
Yeah but cake/pie slices are never cut perfectly either... you can have smaller or bigger slices.
I also always assume on the high end.0 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »I tend to trust them, more or less. We eat out a lot so I have to rely on the posted information. So far I've done well as I've lost 100lbs and kept it off for a year.
thisI usually go with my gut. If the portions look too good to be true, I assume they probably are and might log something like 1.25 entrees.
and this!
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Probably a good enough estimate. I highly doubt they are spot on because I the people in the back making the food are probably not carefully measuring each and every thing that goes in there, but what do I know. It's probably close enough though.0
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Interesting video here...https://youtu.be/y0Td1QB7vqY1
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