Exercising won’t help you lose weight. Only cutting calories REALLY makes the difference.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Exercise is the tipping point for some people because they intuitively eat maintenance calories and exercise creates the deficit. This is why some people march through here extolling the power of exercise while also saying they never stopped eating differently. Unfortunately these results are only reproduceable in very specific situations so mimicking them is likely to end in failure.
That is not to say people shouldn't exercise or praise exercise they just shouldn't expect it to be the key to their weight loss by itself.
I think the biggest problem with that route is the possibility that you could become injured, which would result in a major change in how you have managed weight loss. I know it is always in the back of my mind that there could come a time when I can not burn as much as I now am and will have to make changes to compensate.
Add to that if you eat intuitively you may eat more after exercise and then negate your deficit and outside of injury if a person requires a gym to exercise life can get in the way with work, personal responsibilities, and finances for weeks or more.
It does work for a select few but it is not a plan a person should count on.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Exercise is the tipping point for some people because they intuitively eat maintenance calories and exercise creates the deficit. This is why some people march through here extolling the power of exercise while also saying they never stopped eating differently. Unfortunately these results are only reproduceable in very specific situations so mimicking them is likely to end in failure.
That is not to say people shouldn't exercise or praise exercise they just shouldn't expect it to be the key to their weight loss by itself.
I think the biggest problem with that route is the possibility that you could become injured, which would result in a major change in how you have managed weight loss. I know it is always in the back of my mind that there could come a time when I can not burn as much as I now am and will have to make changes to compensate.
Add to that if you eat intuitively you may eat more after exercise and then negate your deficit and outside of injury if a person requires a gym to exercise life can get in the way with work, personal responsibilities, and finances for weeks or more.
It does work for a select few but it is not a plan a person should count on.
That's why for me, tracking is NECESSARY! I know that if I get hurt, I have to eat less. That's the end of it.3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »That's absurd. Of course weight loss is all about the calories, and making sure you consume fewer than you burn. But if the calories I burn during exercise contribute to that deficit, then it does help. Sorry, that's just physics at work.
(Of course, if you do what I did during training for my first marathon years ago and eat all the calories you burned back plus extra, then yeah, exercise won't help you lose. LOL.
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The runger is real!! :bigsmile:
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What I notice about my body is that when I walk I need to eat those calories back because I’m hungrier, and on days I don’t walk I’m not needing to eat extra. I’m on my 4th month of maintenance and haven’t gained any of the weight I’ve lost. And that’s just staying in my caloric maintenance. Regardless of my walling which is my form of exercise, or not. Just pay attention to your body. It will eventually tell you how much to eat.0
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WillingtoLose1001984 wrote: »LindseyUtibe wrote: »https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-paradox/
Or, free summary if you don’t want to pay for the publishers fee: https://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/why_physical_activity_does_little_to_control_weight
Exercise makes a huge difference for me. For some reason it makes me about 90% less likely to overeat. I am less focused on food and less bored. I don't want to outeat my calorie burn most of the time. Only time I gain weight is when I am not exercising.
This is essentially true for me as well - exercise generally prevents me from stress eating or bored eating.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »WillingtoLose1001984 wrote: »LindseyUtibe wrote: »https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-paradox/
Or, free summary if you don’t want to pay for the publishers fee: https://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/why_physical_activity_does_little_to_control_weight
Exercise makes a huge difference for me. For some reason it makes me about 90% less likely to overeat. I am less focused on food and less bored. I don't want to outeat my calorie burn most of the time. Only time I gain weight is when I am not exercising.
This is essentially true for me as well - exercise generally prevents me from stress eating or bored eating.
Same. I find I have no problem finding room to eat back my exercise calories, but I shoot for 50% of those and seldom feel hungry. And it occupies my time, so I'm less bored. And it helps my stress levels.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »WillingtoLose1001984 wrote: »LindseyUtibe wrote: »https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-paradox/
Or, free summary if you don’t want to pay for the publishers fee: https://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/why_physical_activity_does_little_to_control_weight
Exercise makes a huge difference for me. For some reason it makes me about 90% less likely to overeat. I am less focused on food and less bored. I don't want to outeat my calorie burn most of the time. Only time I gain weight is when I am not exercising.
This is essentially true for me as well - exercise generally prevents me from stress eating or bored eating.
Yes, and I usually feel less hungry when I exercise a lot. For example, when I cycle a century (100 miles) or more, initially I feel like I'm really hungry, but when I start eating, I discover I'm not. Evidently (I've been told) the blood goes to the legs and away from the stomach and it takes a while before things go back to normal.
When I've lost weight exercising and eating normally or slightly larger quantities, I've been cycling centuries or more just about every weekend ... plus lots of cycling during the week, plus walking as my recovery activity.1 -
I generally find the more active I am the less hungry I am, except for the odd day here and there when the hormones take over and all hell breaks loose.1
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Exercise is the tipping point for some people because they intuitively eat maintenance calories and exercise creates the deficit. This is why some people march through here extolling the power of exercise while also saying they never stopped eating differently. Unfortunately these results are only reproduceable in very specific situations so mimicking them is likely to end in failure.
That is not to say people shouldn't exercise or praise exercise they just shouldn't expect it to be the key to their weight loss by itself.
I think the biggest problem with that route is the possibility that you could become injured, which would result in a major change in how you have managed weight loss. I know it is always in the back of my mind that there could come a time when I can not burn as much as I now am and will have to make changes to compensate.
When I got hit by a car riding my bike, I wasn't able to exercise for weeks, and only walking for about a month. My appetite shrank like you wouldn't believe.4 -
WillingtoLose1001984 wrote: »LindseyUtibe wrote: »https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-exercise-paradox/
Or, free summary if you don’t want to pay for the publishers fee: https://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/why_physical_activity_does_little_to_control_weight
Exercise makes a huge difference for me. For some reason it makes me about 90% less likely to overeat. I am less focused on food and less bored. I don't want to outeat my calorie burn most of the time. Only time I gain weight is when I am not exercising.
A lot of people eat for emotional reasons. Probably everybody does sometimes.
Exercise can provide the same joy and satisfaction as delicious food. It can be fulfilling. Reaching goals makes you feel great. When you're getting all of that from exercise, it's natural that you don't need to look to food for it.4 -
So, I drove 180 miles Friday night and am staying in a cheap hotel. I rode my bike over Washington Pass today, from the valley floor; this is one of the things I came to do. The other is tomorrow's hike.
I burned 2,042 kcal on today's ride, give or take 2.5%. That sounds like a lot but it took 4 hours. Consequently that's 4 hours I wasn't on the couch with a bag of chips in the next room, or knowing there was ice cream at the store nearby.
I think that's an underappreciated benefit of exercise. It keeps you busy, prevents boredom eating.13 -
Caloric deficit Without exercise=Loose muscle more and less fat.
Cloric deficit with exercise=Loose fat more and less muslce.0
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