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EricRSRCP
EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
edited November 2024 in Motivation and Support
Hey all, so I need some help. I have stalled in my progress and actually gained a few pounds too. It's obviously something amiss in my diet and I must learn to track better. I hit a plateau or something and it is discouraging. Any advice how to get re-motivated?

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  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,223 Member
    EricRSRCP wrote: »
    Hey all, so I need some help. I have stalled in my progress and actually gained a few pounds too. It's obviously something amiss in my diet and I must learn to track better. I hit a plateau or something and it is discouraging. Any advice how to get re-motivated?

    Don't worry about getting re-motivated, just follow the link posted about logging accurately and fix the issue in your logging. Nothing has mattered more to the success of managing my weight/results than logging 100% accurately and honestly. Treat it like scientific data collection and so long as your data integrity is there you've eliminated the guesswork if you're not losing weight like you expect.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    EricRSRCP wrote: »
    Hey all, so I need some help. I have stalled in my progress and actually gained a few pounds too. It's obviously something amiss in my diet and I must learn to track better. I hit a plateau or something and it is discouraging. Any advice how to get re-motivated?

    fat gain or water weight gain?
  • 73CL350
    73CL350 Posts: 259 Member
    ^^ Steve will never steer you wrong.
  • EricRSRCP
    EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    fat gain or water weight gain?

    Could be a bit of both. Probably more water. I tend to fluctuate fairly widely sometimes with water even when I am watching my sodium intake and drinking water.
  • EricRSRCP
    EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
    steveko89 wrote: »
    Don't worry about getting re-motivated, just follow the link posted about logging accurately and fix the issue in your logging. Nothing has mattered more to the success of managing my weight/results than logging 100% accurately and honestly. Treat it like scientific data collection and so long as your data integrity is there you've eliminated the guesswork if you're not losing weight like you expect.

    You are absolutely right. I make no excuses for why I am not progressing. I work out pretty hard when I do as I have been working with a trainer for a while and she kicks my *kitten*. The issue has to be my diet. The problem I do have is fairly unique to me. I have NSRED (Nocturnal Sleep Related Eating Disorder). I will sleep walk and eat and I am not typically aware I am doing it. Sometimes I am lucid enough to remember, but not awake enough to stop myself. What sucks is I am not paying attention to portioning when I eat at night. I lock my pantry and try to keep foods out, but I find something. I have woken up trying to eat dog jerky.

  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    EricRSRCP wrote: »
    steveko89 wrote: »
    Don't worry about getting re-motivated, just follow the link posted about logging accurately and fix the issue in your logging. Nothing has mattered more to the success of managing my weight/results than logging 100% accurately and honestly. Treat it like scientific data collection and so long as your data integrity is there you've eliminated the guesswork if you're not losing weight like you expect.

    You are absolutely right. I make no excuses for why I am not progressing. I work out pretty hard when I do as I have been working with a trainer for a while and she kicks my *kitten*. The issue has to be my diet. The problem I do have is fairly unique to me. I have NSRED (Nocturnal Sleep Related Eating Disorder). I will sleep walk and eat and I am not typically aware I am doing it. Sometimes I am lucid enough to remember, but not awake enough to stop myself. What sucks is I am not paying attention to portioning when I eat at night. I lock my pantry and try to keep foods out, but I find something. I have woken up trying to eat dog jerky.

    Are you on prescription sleep meds? That's the only time I've heard of this problem.

    I also feel like if you ate enough during the day this might start to resolve itself. Accurate logging during the day can help. I have to be careful to eat enough but not too much. Under-eating during the day leads to unintended consequences.
  • countcurt
    countcurt Posts: 593 Member
    EricRSRCP wrote: »
    Hey all, so I need some help. I have stalled in my progress and actually gained a few pounds too. It's obviously something amiss in my diet and I must learn to track better. I hit a plateau or something and it is discouraging. Any advice how to get re-motivated?



    EricRSRCP wrote: »
    You are absolutely right. I make no excuses for why I am not progressing. I work out pretty hard when I do as I have been working with a trainer for a while and she kicks my *kitten*. The issue has to be my diet. The problem I do have is fairly unique to me. I have NSRED (Nocturnal Sleep Related Eating Disorder). I will sleep walk and eat and I am not typically aware I am doing it. Sometimes I am lucid enough to remember, but not awake enough to stop myself. What sucks is I am not paying attention to portioning when I eat at night. I lock my pantry and try to keep foods out, but I find something. I have woken up trying to eat dog jerky.



    1. While there may be water weight, it is more likely there is something amiss in your diet.
    2. If you are tracking and think you should be losing weight based on what you're tracking there are two possiblities: either you are tracking inaccurately or your metabolism doesn't quite match the protocol used by MFP. In either case, the end result is you're eating too much.
    3. You did not hit a plateau. You stopped losing weight because, well, see #2. I don't like the plateau concept because it implies that, despite doing everything 'right' you're somehow not losing weight. Really, it's just about always due to a mismatch between calories in and calories out.
    4. Motivation is overrated. You have reasons you want to lose weight. List them out. You also have reasons you don't want to lose weight. (Of course you do, otherwise this would be much easier.) List them out as well. Compare your lists and figure out which list is more resonant and then figure out how to manage the other list. You can't rely on motivation. Really.
    5. I'd be curious about the diagnosis of NSRED if you have night time eating events you can remember later. OTOH, if the diagnosis is correct, you should be seeking treatment. Because it is treatable although it may not be curable.


  • EricRSRCP
    EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Are you on prescription sleep meds? That's the only time I've heard of this problem.

    I also feel like if you ate enough during the day this might start to resolve itself. Accurate logging during the day can help. I have to be careful to eat enough but not too much. Under-eating during the day leads to unintended consequences.

    I wish it were that simple. I have had this issue most of my life. Sleep medications don't seem to mitigate it, although doctors have tried to use them for that.

    Here is information on it. here

    You are not the first to tell me to eat more during the day. I hit my calorie markers and then some during most days. If I had a clear idea how to manage what causes it, then I could find things during the day to stop it. It is supposed to be triggered by stress and depression. It's not like I can remove all the negative stressors in my life. I do things to manage stress, but maybe it's not enough. I have spent a lot of money on doctors to try to curb it. Nothing has helped yet.


  • EricRSRCP
    EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
    countcurt wrote: »
    1. While there may be water weight, it is more likely there is something amiss in your diet.
    2. If you are tracking and think you should be losing weight based on what you're tracking there are two possiblities: either you are tracking inaccurately or your metabolism doesn't quite match the protocol used by MFP. In either case, the end result is you're eating too much.
    3. You did not hit a plateau. You stopped losing weight because, well, see #2. I don't like the plateau concept because it implies that, despite doing everything 'right' you're somehow not losing weight. Really, it's just about always due to a mismatch between calories in and calories out.
    4. Motivation is overrated. You have reasons you want to lose weight. List them out. You also have reasons you don't want to lose weight. (Of course you do, otherwise this would be much easier.) List them out as well. Compare your lists and figure out which list is more resonant and then figure out how to manage the other list. You can't rely on motivation. Really.
    5. I'd be curious about the diagnosis of NSRED if you have night time eating events you can remember later. OTOH, if the diagnosis is correct, you should be seeking treatment. Because it is treatable although it may not be curable.


    I never claimed there wasn't something amiss. I know there is. People DO hit plateaus because the body adjusts to what they have been doing and they need to readjust their caloric intake. If you don't adjust that, then you will stagnate. Yes, I know that supports your point. :P

    I can remember some of the night eating, but not all of them. Again, I am not conscious enough sometimes to stop it or I will be in a dream eating and eating in real life. Not sure why I just "act out" eating most of the time.

    If it is treatable, I have not found a method or anything that has helped to curb it. It persists despite what I have done. I have had sleep studies, seen counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, and been on many different medications.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    Well, I don't know how you think you will get any satisfactory answers from strangers on an online forum.

    According to that link you posted, therapy, stress reduction and SSRIs are indicated and it's a rare disorder. Other than us telling you to log your food when you are awake, not sure we can be much help.

    I hope your treatment team finds some answers. That would be difficult.
  • EricRSRCP
    EricRSRCP Posts: 57 Member
    Not looking for answers from people here for NSRED. I have done a lot of the suggestions and keep doing them. I can only keep trying. I am just explaining what obstacles I have in my way.
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