Love carbs but they are the devil!!
jennifergore59
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Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
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Somatotypes are bunk and have nothing whatsoever to do with weight loss. They were made up in the 1940s by a psychologist by looking at pictures of people and assigning personality traits to them based upon how the pictures made him feel.
The amount of carbs you consume has nothing to do with weight loss either. If you consume less calories than you expend, you will lose weight. I eat over 200g of carbs a day, have lost 75 pounds and maintained that loss for nearly a year and counting.
Here's a great place to get you started on the right path, without all the fads, myths and diet industry BS: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p123 -
Carbs are not the devil...and pizza typically has more calories coming from fat than it does carbs.12
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I’m lightly active so I was told cutting back on carbs would help. If I were active I could afford to eat the carbs I want.9
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jennifergore59 wrote: »I’m lightly active so I was told cutting back on carbs would help. If I were active I could afford to eat the carbs I want.
Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. Calories are what matter for weight loss, period. You don't have to eat a lot of carbohydrates if you don't want to, but as long as you're staying within your calorie goal, the amount of carbs you eat will have zero to do with weight loss.6 -
Thank you 🙏 for the link1
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jennifergore59 wrote: »I’m lightly active so I was told cutting back on carbs would help. If I were active I could afford to eat the carbs I want.
Weight management is about calories, not carbs. Cutting carbs or going low carb is one of many ways to control calories...in and of themselves, carbohydrates have nothing to do with weight management outside of a medical condition.
You can also cut back on carbs without going to the extreme...if a bagel puts you over your carb allotment, you are doing super low carb and that isn't necessary in the least.6 -
ugh - my pet hate is people saying carbs are the devil and stupid *kitten* like "don't eat carbs after 2pm". So then person x stops eating a muffin for afternoon tea and has a protein yoghurt instead, and a massive bowl of pasta for dinner and swaps it for a steak and some salad and hey presto, loses weight, and OMG that's because I don't eat carbs after 2pm.
Hm, NO, it's because you cut out about 500 calories from swapping the 300 calorie muffin to a 150 calorie yoghurt and a 600-700 calorie bowl of deliciousness to a 300-400 calorie slab of meat with some rabbit food.
ARFGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
So - don't believe the hype. Keto is not God. It works for some people (and not always for the long term and studies now show it might not even be the best thing in the world to reduce carbs for prolonged periods of time - sorry, can't link, not at my fingertips but have seen others link to it before), but the key is - it works IN A CALORIE DEFICIT.
I'm not yelling at you btw, I just get passionate when I hear that carbs are the root of all evil.7 -
Thanks guys! Having tried every diet I found the only one that worked for me as Keto. This is why I’m strung up on carb counting.
I will just focus on my calorie intake now and stop being so harsh on myself4 -
There are valid medical reasons to eat a low carb diet, such as epilepsy, diabetes or pre-diabetes, or PCOS. Being an endomorph is not a thing and being lightly active is a reason to reduce calories, not carbs. (Pro tip: it's also an excellent reason to become more active.)
Unless your doctor has told you you are prediabetic, or you find due to your preferences eating fewer carbs is simply an easy way for you to reduce your calories without feeling deprived, eat what you want to.8 -
I was surprised how easy it was for me to decrease my carb intake with alternatives. Trader Joe's has an amazing cauliflower pizza crust that I make for myself when my boys are asking for pizza. You could also make your own, but it is a pain in the butt. I also love things wrapped in lettuce. Burgers, tacos, lunch meats, etc. The only thing I have an issue with is pasta, because I'm a server/bartender at an Italian restaurant and we live on messed up pasta dishes some weekends. lol.1
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jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
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TavistockToad wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
keto/low carb is also a fad diet
I've been doing Keto for a little over 3 months now, in that time I've lost 59 lbs, my cravings for carbs and sugar are all but gone, and I'm more active/energized than i ever was on a SAD. Cutting sugar out of my life has changed my taste buds and opened me up to vegetables more than I ever would have before. I lost 40 lbs on a SAD going to the gym 5 nights a week and I was miserable. I quit going to the gym, then i quit eating right, then i gained all the weight back and then some. Keto is the best experience i've ever had trying to lose my excess weight and I intend to continue until i'm considered a healthy normal weight. Call it a fad all you want but the results are undeniable.9 -
TroghdorBurninator wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
keto/low carb is also a fad diet
I've been doing Keto for a little over 3 months now, in that time I've lost 59 lbs, my cravings for carbs and sugar are all but gone, and I'm more active/energized than i ever was on a SAD. Cutting sugar out of my life has changed my taste buds and opened me up to vegetables more than I ever would have before. I lost 40 lbs on a SAD going to the gym 5 nights a week and I was miserable. I quit going to the gym, then i quit eating right, then i gained all the weight back and then some. Keto is the best experience i've ever had trying to lose my excess weight and I intend to continue until i'm considered a healthy normal weight. Call it a fad all you want but the results are undeniable.
Any fad works while you do it...
Great if it works for you, but you don't HAVE to eat keto to lose weight.7 -
jennifergore59 wrote: »Thanks guys! Having tried every diet I found the only one that worked for me as Keto. This is why I’m strung up on carb counting.
I will just focus on my calorie intake now and stop being so harsh on myself
But does it really work if you really like carbs? Calories are what matter for weight loss but so does sustainability and eating in a way that makes it easy to comply with your calorie targets.
If keto suits your eating preferences, it will be sustainable and is a valid way to control calories. If it doesn't suit your eating preferences, you may lose weight on it for awhile but you'll find you won't sustain it over time and there is the real possibility you will regain whatever you lose.
The best thing you can do it find a way to eat within your calorie goal that is sustainable for you for the rest of your life, both losing excess weight and maintaining when you get to goal.4 -
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Jennifer, It's tough at first giving up the bread and pizza and pasta, but there are plenty of low/no carb replacements that may not feel the same at first, but after a while become just as good. When my wife and I get a pizza craving, we butterfly and flatten out chicken breast with a meat mallet, then season with italian seasoning, garlic and Parmesan, then we bake for about 10 minutes, liberally apply a low carb marinara, mozarella cheese and pepperoni/sausage and toss it back in the oven for another 5-10. Low carb pizza to fit in the macros.
Pasta can be remedied with Zoodles (zucchini noodles) or Spaghetti squash.
You can even have Cheesecake and peanutbutter fat bombs (the internet is full of great recipes) using Stevia or other Xylitol sweeteners that don't affect the glycemic index.
May you find great success on your journey!7 -
TroghdorBurninator wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
keto/low carb is also a fad diet
I've been doing Keto for a little over 3 months now, in that time I've lost 59 lbs, my cravings for carbs and sugar are all but gone, and I'm more active/energized than i ever was on a SAD. Cutting sugar out of my life has changed my taste buds and opened me up to vegetables more than I ever would have before. I lost 40 lbs on a SAD going to the gym 5 nights a week and I was miserable. I quit going to the gym, then i quit eating right, then i gained all the weight back and then some. Keto is the best experience i've ever had trying to lose my excess weight and I intend to continue until i'm considered a healthy normal weight. Call it a fad all you want but the results are undeniable.
What eating style will you use once you get to a healthy weight? Will you remain eating keto? You've already been through one cycle of losing and regaining. The losing can often be the easy part. The living at maintenance can be very tricky. It's good to be thinking that through and having a game plan before you get there.
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jennifergore59 wrote: »Thanks guys! Having tried every diet I found the only one that worked for me as Keto. This is why I’m strung up on carb counting.
I will just focus on my calorie intake now and stop being so harsh on myself
Keto is fine and will work if you like eating that way. Personally, I eat a lot of veg and fruit as well as beans, lentils, oats, potatoes, root vegetables, etc. Keto would never work for me, as those are some of my favorite foods given that my diet is substantially plant based. I am a carnivore, but I couldn't imagine just eating fat, fat, fat, and more fat and tons of meat...not to mention, my LDL cholesterol always jumps up when I start eating too much saturated fat.4 -
Keto/Low carb is just one way of reducing your calorie intake, and it works fine as a weightloss strategy if you genuinely enjoy eating that way. I am very much a "CARBS = LIFE" person, and would keel over and die after three days on Keto.
My big issue with Keto is the "what happens when you reach your goal" part. Are you really going to eat that way forever? A carb free existence for the next 50 years? Keto doesn't seem to train you for the maintenance part of the process, and part of the weight loss journey is figuring out how to maintain your smaller self. Just eating a balanced diet of food that you enjoy and which fits your calorie goals just seems easier and more sustainable in the long term.
But good luck, whatever you decide.1 -
TroghdorBurninator wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
keto/low carb is also a fad diet
I've been doing Keto for a little over 3 months now, in that time I've lost 59 lbs, my cravings for carbs and sugar are all but gone, and I'm more active/energized than i ever was on a SAD. Cutting sugar out of my life has changed my taste buds and opened me up to vegetables more than I ever would have before. I lost 40 lbs on a SAD going to the gym 5 nights a week and I was miserable. I quit going to the gym, then i quit eating right, then i gained all the weight back and then some. Keto is the best experience i've ever had trying to lose my excess weight and I intend to continue until i'm considered a healthy normal weight. Call it a fad all you want but the results are undeniable.
There's like a massive world of nutrition between the SAD and Keto. Pretty much any movement away from the SAD is going to have results in both weight and health.
Keto is a fad in the same way that paleo was the fad about 5 years ago...ie, it's all the rage. I also know plenty of people for which keto just didn't work because it wasn't leaving them with a calorie deficit.7 -
Doing keto for the last month.. learning a lot about food choices! down 28 pounds! It's a lifestyle that must have mental discipline...
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cwolfman13 wrote: »TroghdorBurninator wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Hey! I’ve done multiple quick faddy diets that don’t last. I’ve learnt that I have a endomorph body but just love pizza,pasta, breads ..... have you guys got any low carb replacements? I couldn’t believe one bagel had over my daily allowance 😩
just no.
eat in a deficit, do some exercise, eat some veg.
keto/low carb is also a fad diet
I've been doing Keto for a little over 3 months now, in that time I've lost 59 lbs, my cravings for carbs and sugar are all but gone, and I'm more active/energized than i ever was on a SAD. Cutting sugar out of my life has changed my taste buds and opened me up to vegetables more than I ever would have before. I lost 40 lbs on a SAD going to the gym 5 nights a week and I was miserable. I quit going to the gym, then i quit eating right, then i gained all the weight back and then some. Keto is the best experience i've ever had trying to lose my excess weight and I intend to continue until i'm considered a healthy normal weight. Call it a fad all you want but the results are undeniable.
There's like a massive world of nutrition between the SAD and Keto. Pretty much any movement away from the SAD is going to have results in both weight and health.
Keto is a fad in the same way that paleo was the fad about 5 years ago...ie, it's all the rage. I also know plenty of people for which keto just didn't work because it wasn't leaving them with a calorie deficit.
I always wonder how many keto proponents have tried reducing carbs moderately. I can thrive on lower than SAD, but keto seems to trigger my stress hormones. I rebounded worse than ever before when I tried keto, gaining even quicker than I had lost.4 -
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I am new to Keto; it's only been 12 days, but I can't believe how much more energy I have, and how much better I feel. This is the first "diet" I've tried that feels like more of a lifestyle change. I do eat bread... Keto bread I made that I actually like. I eat crackers... Keto crackers that I made and actually like. Thank goodness for alternative flours.
Anyway, I'm down ten lbs., but at this point, I know that most of that is water weight. It still feels great! I'm a bit leery of the holidays...0 -
There's an interesting thread on here about willpower and how we have a finite amount of it, and so we really need to pick & choose our battles when it comes to diet & health (or anything, actually). If keto makes a person's health & weight loss goals easier to achieve, they will likely stick with it and that will be a wonderful thing. If it requires a constant struggle to make the "right" choices, a person will probably tire & give up on that at some point, without having learned much about what balance of foods, and in what quantities, will help them meet their goals.4
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Rcarter2013 wrote: »Doing keto for the last month.. learning a lot about food choices! down 28 pounds! It's a lifestyle that must have mental discipline...
What you say above about food choices is a great thing for long term sustainability and congrats on your progress so far.
One thing that is concerning about your post is that you are losing almost 1 lb per day. I realize some of that is water weight. But, unless you are morbidly obese, you are sacrificing valuable muscle tissue with this high rate of loss. The body can only process so much fat in a day and then it starts to cannibalize other kinds of tissues. I would strongly recommend you consider a slower pace of loss.
file:///C:/Users/apple/Downloads/Limit%20human%20fat%20store%20hypophagia%20(1).pdf
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/comments/2kl7iv/is_there_a_limit_on_the_energy_transfer_from_fat/
In this paper the author's hypothesis is that the body can oxidize approximately 69 Kcals per Kg of body fat per day. After that FFM (Fat Free Mass) is affected. If you know your body fat amount or an approximation, you can do the calculation.
The added benefit to this is that you learn eating habits for when you are at maintenance.5 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »jennifergore59 wrote: »Thanks guys! Having tried every diet I found the only one that worked for me as Keto. This is why I’m strung up on carb counting.
I will just focus on my calorie intake now and stop being so harsh on myself
Keto is fine and will work if you like eating that way. Personally, I eat a lot of veg and fruit as well as beans, lentils, oats, potatoes, root vegetables, etc. Keto would never work for me, as those are some of my favorite foods given that my diet is substantially plant based. I am a carnivore, but I couldn't imagine just eating fat, fat, fat, and more fat and tons of meat...not to mention, my LDL cholesterol always jumps up when I start eating too much saturated fat.
yeah I have similar experience to you. I can't keto because I like all the grains and potatoes and all that stuff. When I start to eat too much fat I actually start to feel nauseous (and no, not keto flu or anything like that becuase i've never dropped my carbs to keto levels).
My last coach gave me a trial at higher fats lower carbs (again - not even at keto levels) and I was MISERABLE. Felt sick, was still hungry, hoarded my carb macros for dinner and ate them all then so that I wouldn't go to bed hungry.
We changed out of that real quick and back to a more balanced split.
So it does come down to what people prefer to eat as long as it's within the caloric limits.
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Yes that’s what you do - you eat low carb forever. Not a bad thing in my opinion but somewhat challenging in our carb saturated world. You can reverse the symptoms of diabetes and heart disease by eating this way but that doesn’t mean you’re “cured”. You still have to eat mindfully just as someone who is celiac sensitive or peanut or dairy sensitive does for the rest of their life.1
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jennifergore59 wrote: »Thanks guys! Having tried every diet I found the only one that worked for me as Keto. This is why I’m strung up on carb counting.
I will just focus on my calorie intake now and stop being so harsh on myself
Only one diet has worked for you? This is suspect because all weight loss (I mean 100%) comes from a consistent calorie deficit.
Eating keto or low carb gives you a big whoosh of water weight loss in the beginning. You may be mistaking water weight loss for fat loss....these are not the same thing. Eating keto may eliminate enough favorite foods that you don't have to count calories nearly as accurately as you had to with other diets. Be patient, weight loss takes time.1
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