Powerlifting vs Body Building
beast_kitty89
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I have a huge admiration for powerlifting and body builders. However, I dont know which one to do. I have diabetes type 2, high insulin resistance, gastroparesis and IBS. About 5 ft 2 inches and 163 pounds. I currently live in Norway.
Could someone direct me to good sources of infomation such as books, bloggers and so on?
Thanks for all your help in advance!
Could someone direct me to good sources of infomation such as books, bloggers and so on?
Thanks for all your help in advance!
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Are your goals primarily strength related (powerlifting), or physique related (bodybuilding)? Are you looking to compete in one or the other, or just do the workouts for the general benefits?
It doesn't have to be an either/or situation, there's plenty of middle ground where you can gain strength while simultaneously improving your physique.4 -
Any form of physical activity is going to be better than none. Sure bodybuilding is more about shape, hypertrophy, & fatloss oriented goals, but you can still incorporate some form of heavy lifting (maybe not as extreme as powerlifters in attempts at 1 rep max PRs and like 90+% of lifts being DLs, squats, bench, & OHP).
Look into PHAT - power hypertrophy adaptive training - a bit of both worlds of bodybuilding (hypertrophy) & powerlifting2 -
I generally think its better to start with a solid strength base, before getting into body building. Body building can create a lot of injuries and strange imbalances, especially if you are inexperienced. So I would vote for power lifting to start, its a great way to learn the basic mechanics. Body building works, maybe too quickly sometimes and can cause mobility issues depending on your genetics. Power lifting moves are more full range of mobility. That said don't disregard body weight routines which may be where you want to start. Push ups, Pull ups, chin ups, dips, inverted rows, hand stand pushups, pikes, planks, step ups, are all very great ways to get your self rolling without equipment. For me regardless of what program I am on, Pull ups, Chin ups, and Dips, will continue to be a key part of my routine.4
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I'm type 2 and wanted to advise about some specific diabetic related issues.
Strength Training of any kind is great for insulin resistance! However, diabetics tend to have poor blood flow to their tendons and easily get tendon injuries. So be very careful about form - get a professional to instruct you in person at least once. And progress slower than other people do. A tendon injury can sideline you for a long time and limit your abilities permanently. Avoid lifts which can damage your shoulders, like dips and upright rows. Diabetics have a much higher rate of frozen shoulder than healthy people.
Also, keep track of your blood sugar while lifting until you know how it affects you. I can easily drop my levels from about 160 to below 70 with heavy leg lifting such as squats. This is awesome if it's what you were trying to do but not so great if you're driving home from the gym and your vision is blurring. Have some form of quick carbs on you at the gym at all times. My levels are also lower than expected for about 24 hours after a heavy lifting session. Some people are the opposite and stress hormones released by lifting cause their levels to be HIGHER than expected in the short term, then drop later.
Timing your meals around your lifting can really help with glucose control. I usually plan to lift heavy late in the evening after a meal, when my levels are naturally high. Then I have a protein and carb snack afterwards - such as berries with yogurt - to help my levels recover.
It doesn't really matter what you do, as long as you are working your major muscle groups in a progressive way you will see improvement in your glucose control. Optimally you should lift at least 3 times a week.8 -
in my opinion, i do think bodybuilding is a better option to start with for most beginners starting out, and especially without any with proper guidance from either a really good PT, if you have a online trainer, or if you have a friend that's good at lifting weights. bodybuilding does teaches more of the basics and fundamentals like mind to muscle connection(very important), preventing energy leaks, building the overall basic strength all over the body, proper basic forms for various exercises a lot better, getting your body used to lifting weights, and a lot of things can be transferred over to powerlifting with slight tweaks to the bodybuilding lifting form, it's also the reason why many powerlifters use bodybuilding as accessory work to increase the amount they can lift.
learning on your own by watching tutorial videos on youtube, and going online to do research can be done too. but it's not easy, as you don't usually have someone pointing out things you have to correct for your form in person while performing the lifts, it takes a lot of self body awareness, and patience, in order to learn from trial-and-error on your own because not all gyms have mirrors and depending on the individual, some people gets frustrated easily when they feel they can't get something right. for things like bench press you'll be looking up to the ceiling with no mirrors, some benches are also very far away from mirrors as well, and you can't see your in the mirrors during back exercises so mind to muscle connection is important. without knowing the basics of how to use certain muscles separately and together, it might not end well for some people when attempting heavier weight as you could lose tightness or can't get tight from the start.1 -
in my opinion, i do think bodybuilding is a better option to start with for most beginners starting out, and especially without any with proper guidance from either a really good PT, a online trainer, or a friend(s) that's good at lifting weights. bodybuilding does teaches more of the basics and fundamentals like mind to muscle connection(very important), preventing energy leaks, building the overall basic strength all over the body, proper basic forms for various exercises a lot better, getting your body used to lifting weights, and a lot of things can be transferred over to powerlifting with slight tweaks to the bodybuilding lifting form, it's also the reason why many powerlifters use bodybuilding as accessory work to increase the amount they can lift.
learning on your own by watching tutorial videos on youtube, and going online to do research can be done too. but it's not easy, as you don't usually have someone pointing out things you have to correct for your form in person while performing the lifts, it takes a lot of self body awareness, and patience, in order to learn from trial-and-error on your own because not all gyms have mirrors and depending on the individual, some people gets frustrated easily when they feel they can't get something right. for things like bench press you'll be looking up to the ceiling with no mirrors, some benches are also very far away from mirrors as well, and you can't see your in the mirrors during back exercises so mind to muscle connection is important. without knowing the basics of how to use certain muscles separately and together, it might not end well for some people when attempting heavier weight as you could lose tightness or can't get tight from the start.1 -
What is your training history?1
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I have used powerlifting programmes to get stronger and hypertrophy (bodybuilding) programmes to build muscle...I started out with 5 x 5, then 5/3/1 and I have used PHUL programmes and PHAT programmes...I now use strongwoman training as my base...it does not have to be one or the other, even learning skills from the other sports/athletes is interesting and beneficial to some of us...I am about to take on the olympic lifts so I can be a better strongwoman (the overhead pressing), for example...
The thing to look at is, what are your goals? Aesthetics or strength or a bit of both? Do you want to compete? You need to do your research online (youtube and whichever is your chosen search engine)...1 -
beast_kitty89 wrote: »
I would direct you to Barbellmedicine.com. Plenty of well written articles by them and a forum with direct answers that are science based.
They have several coaches that are doctors that have many decades of experience coaching and programming strength and powerlifting training and are also elite powerlifters.
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You all have been very helpful so far! Thank you all so much!1
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beast_kitty89 wrote: »I have a huge admiration for powerlifting and body builders. However, I dont know which one to do. I have diabetes type 2, high insulin resistance, gastroparesis and IBS. About 5 ft 2 inches and 163 pounds. I currently live in Norway.
Could someone direct me to good sources of infomation such as books, bloggers and so on?
Thanks for all your help in advance!
I understand that such conditions can prove tiring and have a knock on effect on the central nervous system, lifting weights will add to this pressure.
Whatever you decide, you need to take it one step at a time and adjust accordingly with nutrition, plenty of rest and scheduled days off in-between sessions.
Your digestion is obviously compromised, making this tricky if you are eating more for strength and hypertrophy gains in future but I see from your current weight for your height you might be losing instead.
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Strength training via Starting Strength (Rippetoe) is the best. I tried bodybuilding for years and never really got anywhere I think because it was just too complicated and time consuming. When I started to focus on squat, deadlift, bench, and press I finally started seeing my strength increase, dramatically. It really gave weight lifting a whole new meaning and now I'm chasing the "1000 lb club".4
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