RUNNERS - What would you do?
louiseg13
Posts: 16 Member
Hi,
This year I signed up to the 1018 challenge - to run 1018 kms in 2018, combined with another challenge to run 80kms in December. So far I have run 985kms and have just 33kms to go by the end of December.
BUT my doctor has just told me to stop running until I've been referred to a podiatrist which will be after Christmas!!! He is totally right as continuing to run will only damage my already pretty gnarly toes further, but I am so close to finishing the challenge!
What would you do? Ignore the doctor and mash your feet up more, causing considerable pain but beating the challenges and getting a medal OR
Listen to the doctor and (hopefully) be able to train properly for your next race (currently 20 miles at the beginning of April, and probably a half sometime before then, all leading to a marathon at the beginning of May) OR
Count walking towards your goal? I've only logged running kms but also walk quite a lot so I could count that, but it feels like cheating.
Opinions/experiences welcome!
This year I signed up to the 1018 challenge - to run 1018 kms in 2018, combined with another challenge to run 80kms in December. So far I have run 985kms and have just 33kms to go by the end of December.
BUT my doctor has just told me to stop running until I've been referred to a podiatrist which will be after Christmas!!! He is totally right as continuing to run will only damage my already pretty gnarly toes further, but I am so close to finishing the challenge!
What would you do? Ignore the doctor and mash your feet up more, causing considerable pain but beating the challenges and getting a medal OR
Listen to the doctor and (hopefully) be able to train properly for your next race (currently 20 miles at the beginning of April, and probably a half sometime before then, all leading to a marathon at the beginning of May) OR
Count walking towards your goal? I've only logged running kms but also walk quite a lot so I could count that, but it feels like cheating.
Opinions/experiences welcome!
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I'm not a runner but my husband is. He was a top-of-his-category runner in high school and college. He was incredibly competitive and would push himself way too hard - he ignored doctors' orders more than once, ran on injuries often. It really jacked up his back and joints and he has arthritis in his knees.
While obviously this isn't the case with you, I would encourage you to listen to the doctor's recommendation. IMO no medal or challenge is worth damaging your body - you only get one6 -
I'd probably push to 1000k for the year, since it's a nice round number (and one to be very proud of, IMO), then call it quits. Ego over injury never leads anywhere positive.2
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Stop running...
I had loads of injuries last year, so I've learnt from experience!5 -
listen to the doctor. do what the doctor and physio tells you to do0
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Ideally, you’d listen to your doctor as you are (probably) damaging your body if you continue to run.
If you want to do a marathon at the beginnings of May, you need to be healthy ASAP so you can train. Marathon training is already a lot of miles - never mind trying to do it if you’re injured or half injured.
So-if the marathon is a real goal, stop running now. If you must finish the challenge (which I understand), walk (unless you’ve been told not to do that as well).
If the marathon really isn’t a goal and you’ll be happy limping along with a chronic injury for months on end - go run your 33km.2 -
Thanks all, to be fair I was kind of hoping for some more irresponsible answers to make me feel better about ignoring the doctor But you're all quite right, and I especially don't want to go into marathon training with an injury. It's so frustrating though having worked towards the goal for 50 weeks of the year and then having to stop right at the end... so I think I will go for the compromise of walking the final bit as I haven't been told not to and it doesn't hurt as much as running. I suppose it will be nice to have some time off over Christmas ??1
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"Count walking towards your goal? I've only logged running kms but also walk quite a lot so I could count that, but it feels like cheating." - CAN you walk without pain and further injury? If so, then I'd say walk and log those miles! They count and they aren't cheating.
If it still causes you pain then I agree with the advice to listen to your doctor so that you can heal properly.2 -
Thanks all, to be fair I was kind of hoping for some more irresponsible answers to make me feel better about ignoring the doctor But you're all quite right, and I especially don't want to go into marathon training with an injury. It's so frustrating though having worked towards the goal for 50 weeks of the year and then having to stop right at the end... so I think I will go for the compromise of walking the final bit as I haven't been told not to and it doesn't hurt as much as running. I suppose it will be nice to have some time off over Christmas ??
Doesn't hurt as much suggests that it does still hurt...?1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
Does my hurt as much suggests that it does still hurt...?
Weell, it's more discomfort than actual pain when walking. But just putting shoes on is uncomfortable and I can't go around bare-foot all winter, so if I'm going to be uncomfortable anyway I may as well log it.0 -
I would stop running and walking if that is also still causing you some pain... I know it's hard and people have a tendency to just ignore pain and push through it but what happens if you injure yourself further and make it to where you really actually can't run, and for an ever longer time period?0
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We're talking TOES? I would ignore the doctor, after buying different shoes at a specialist foot care store which probably knows more about toes than a non-running podiatrist. But you shouldn't listen to me, I'm a very irresponsible person. What exactly is the matter with your toes? There's a big difference between "my toenails are all black and ow it hurts," and "I'm at risk of needing surgery."
If you feel confidant you are not doing damage while walking, it's definitely not cheating to walk. Walking is allowed in the challenge. The main thing is, you don't want to do further damage. Pain and damage are not always the same thing - I had a ruptured Baker's cyst which was acutely painful during recovery, but which the doctor told me wasn't going to get any worse from running on it, so I ran on it, and it's now fine, as the doctor said it would be. Since we're talking about being responsible, the responsible thing to do is to ask the doctor about walking. Instead of irresponsibily pretending that since he didn't specifically forbid it, it must be okay.
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I’d run, everyone told me to stop because of knee pain this go around but it actually got better as I ran more. I’m glad I didn’t stop!2
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This is why I never do challenges (and if I do sign up I pay little attention to them). If I need time off, I take it.
Now having said that, I have been known to run through injuries. For me it comes down to knowing myself. I've (mostly ) learned to get my cues and act accordingly. I don't know what your issue is so I can't comment directly on it, but in general if it wasn't too bad (and little risk of getting worse) I would run. But (and here's my main point), I'd only run if I was training for something important. A challenge or unimportant race is not a good reason to run with an injury.
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as a runner who out of the blue had to stop running in August and still not running due to still undiagnosed issues- stop.
what is more important, getting today's run in, or being able to run continously for the next few months-years?3 -
Only you can make that decision, as you know the extent of your injury.
I will say that I would think about the impact the continued running would have vs laying off and not running. As you mentioned above, you'd be able to properly train once your foot has been attended to. In addition to what others have mentioned, while wanting to continue to run in the immediate seems like a good idea, being able to continue the joys of running years down the road is more important I would think.
Good luck with whatever you decide!1 -
Isn't the point of fitness goals to make you more healthy? Then if reaching the goal actually causes you harm, that defeats the purpose, right?4
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Health always comes before the challenge. This way you'd have a chance next year too1
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I didn't even get to a question.
Don't even think about it.
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Hi,
This year I signed up to the 1018 challenge - to run 1018 kms in 2018, combined with another challenge to run 80kms in December. So far I have run 985kms and have just 33kms to go by the end of December.
BUT my doctor has just told me to stop running until I've been referred to a podiatrist which will be after Christmas!!! He is totally right as continuing to run will only damage my already pretty gnarly toes further, but I am so close to finishing the challenge!
What would you do? Ignore the doctor and mash your feet up more, causing considerable pain but beating the challenges and getting a medal OR
Listen to the doctor and (hopefully) be able to train properly for your next race (currently 20 miles at the beginning of April, and probably a half sometime before then, all leading to a marathon at the beginning of May) OR
Count walking towards your goal? I've only logged running kms but also walk quite a lot so I could count that, but it feels like cheating.
Opinions/experiences welcome!
Personally I DNSd a marathon as I was unwell, which meant I missed it on completion of a marathon series as well.
It's only a bit of bling.0 -
I personally don't run so I can't say if you should or shouldn't run through to see your own personal challenge out. For myself I would try to a back step and evaluate what is more important in terms of your goals. What is the best way forward to achieve or to be in the best shape possible and at your highest fitness level come race day. In them situations I would take the rest thinking the sooner I get it done the quicker I can start the recovery process and be on my way and be on my way. The challenge I would use as training block once you have recovered. Persnonal challenges don't always need to be set in stone and can be tweaked to suit personal circumstances0
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Is there a compromise? Maybe you can walk or swim the extra distance without additional risk of injury?0
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Ask your doctor whether walking is a safe alternative. If it is, finish your miles by walking.
I would personally be very tempted to run, so I understand how you feel. But I would try very hard to not run and to tell myself that I’d rather have long term health over the short term satisfaction of meeting an arbitrary distance target.1 -
Well, of course, as rational, objective individuals, we're all going to tell you: Stop running.
Wait for the appointment.
If you continue to injure yourself further, your recovery will take longer. You have a race in April.
What do you miss out on if you stop? A medal and a hearty hand-shake! Big deal. That and $3 will get your cup of coffee.
You already accumulated the benefits of your challenge by getting so far. You're not going to accrue any appreciably better conditioning by finishing the 33. You are not going to miraculously become faster.
All that said ....
We're runners. We're not rational. We run through pain -- that's like the definition of being a long-distance runner. A marathon hurts. A 5k hurts, if you are trying to catch and pass that guy just in front of you. We all get shin splints. We all get a runners knee, or a tennis-players calf, at some time; it does not cause us to shift to golf or billiards. We keep going.
I ran almost 15 years with pretty severe plantar fasciitis. Lately, I've been running through a torn meniscus. Was that stubbornness dumb? Probably. Did my recovery take longer because I ignored my injuries and abused them? Perhaps. But, I'm still running -- perhaps because I haven't let a physical challenge knock me off from training, which might have been worse, if it started a downhill spiral.
I'm better now. Both knee and feet. I'm strong for my age. Perhaps because I fought through.
Doctors are ninny-nannies. They're advice is always to stop. It is always to not do. Why? Because they don't care about down the road health and fitness. They only care that you don't come back in two weeks, with worse pain, and ask: "Why did you tell me I could push on?" So, they play it safe. Their goal is not to get you back out there as soon as possible, their objections to the contrary. Their aim is to not be sued for malpractice or to be called a quack if someone gets a worse injury.
I think those doctors err too far on the side of caution.
The question really is: Are you willing to take the chance of continuing, knowing that you might exacerbate your injury and that, if you do, your recovery might take 3-4 months instead of 1 month? For example.
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