Do you log when you're in a bad place, eating-wise?
kiela64
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Feel free to ignore my little story and just talk about your experience!
It's been like over a month since I've been consistently 'on track'. Maybe 2. I thought it was a minor setback, I got a concussion in September and wasn't able to move as much, was at home a lot. My eating wasn't too bad initially though! I ended up eating more increasingly, and it got worse through November where I ran into a bit of a depressive episode (officially - am in therapy, and it was fairly mild don't worry) and the 'why' of many things stopped being enough to make me Actually Do Them. Now I'm for the most part completely back at work. The routine of things is getting a little easier. I'm getting there. I've got a cold, which sucks, but it's alright. But MY GOODNESS is my eating Bad! A friend gave us a 4lb bag of pistachios which I would mindlessly chow down on running back for more bowls (it's finally gone). I've started buying fast food breakfasts again - I haven't done this since I started losing weight! I've even gone on some convenience store trips for junk foods that I know make me feel sick.
My plans to get back under control are to pre-plan my meals again. I was in an extremely good routine back in the summer. I've made and frozen a few sandwiches, and I bought yogurt again for my breakfasts. I have protein bars and peanuts and fruit for my snacks. But I'll just ignore all my good efforts and eat stupidly.
I honestly don't know if logging these failures will help. I keep going back and forth on this. I know when I was logging, over days could make me feel extremely upset and 'spiral' to the point of overeating more, or getting more angry with myself than I already was, because I could see the projected 'gain' at the end. I keep logging half days, where I'm going to be on track and then I lose it so I don't finish the day because I know it would probably make me feel worse, and because I'd be guessing, so 'what's the point?' But maybe I need to feel worse? idk.
I really haven't gained terribly much since all of this. I'm up 4-5lbs from my lowest weight. My eating is still not as bad as it consistently was before I started losing, while I'm doing these behaviours a few times a week it used to be every day. It's just really disheartening to feel like my progress with my habits is completely gone.
Other MFP-ers, do you go through these bouts of failure? Do you log them?
It's been like over a month since I've been consistently 'on track'. Maybe 2. I thought it was a minor setback, I got a concussion in September and wasn't able to move as much, was at home a lot. My eating wasn't too bad initially though! I ended up eating more increasingly, and it got worse through November where I ran into a bit of a depressive episode (officially - am in therapy, and it was fairly mild don't worry) and the 'why' of many things stopped being enough to make me Actually Do Them. Now I'm for the most part completely back at work. The routine of things is getting a little easier. I'm getting there. I've got a cold, which sucks, but it's alright. But MY GOODNESS is my eating Bad! A friend gave us a 4lb bag of pistachios which I would mindlessly chow down on running back for more bowls (it's finally gone). I've started buying fast food breakfasts again - I haven't done this since I started losing weight! I've even gone on some convenience store trips for junk foods that I know make me feel sick.
My plans to get back under control are to pre-plan my meals again. I was in an extremely good routine back in the summer. I've made and frozen a few sandwiches, and I bought yogurt again for my breakfasts. I have protein bars and peanuts and fruit for my snacks. But I'll just ignore all my good efforts and eat stupidly.
I honestly don't know if logging these failures will help. I keep going back and forth on this. I know when I was logging, over days could make me feel extremely upset and 'spiral' to the point of overeating more, or getting more angry with myself than I already was, because I could see the projected 'gain' at the end. I keep logging half days, where I'm going to be on track and then I lose it so I don't finish the day because I know it would probably make me feel worse, and because I'd be guessing, so 'what's the point?' But maybe I need to feel worse? idk.
I really haven't gained terribly much since all of this. I'm up 4-5lbs from my lowest weight. My eating is still not as bad as it consistently was before I started losing, while I'm doing these behaviours a few times a week it used to be every day. It's just really disheartening to feel like my progress with my habits is completely gone.
Other MFP-ers, do you go through these bouts of failure? Do you log them?
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I go through these a lot. I eat too much to actually log it. Sometimes I guess, sometimes I log nothing. Most successful people will say they log everything the good the bad and the ugly.3
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I do my best to log everything. Not only does it hold me accountable but it’s a great tracking tool as my TDEE changes and I become more fit.
The other benefit is it gives me the opportunity to make adjustments the rest of the week if I have a bad day. For example this past Sunday we did a holiday baking thing. I totally binged and consumed over 4000 calories. This put me more than one full days allowance over goal since I’m on a cut. So I decided this week I would aim for maintenance, or just below, then get back to my cut next week. I didn’t want to skip eating for 1 1/2 days to get back to my deficit lol. I’ve been cutting a little extra each day since and I increased activity a little without feeling deprived or punished. I’m currently 80-100 calories over still for the week but I can reduce that from my eating tomorrow to break even. If I hadn’t logged the binge I wouldn’t have been able to do this. I would have either gained weight back or over restricted to try and make up for it, which in my experience only leads to feeling deprived and having more binges.15 -
I do my best to log everything. Not only does it hold me accountable but it’s a great tracking tool as my TDEE changes and I become more fit.
The other benefit is it gives me the opportunity to make adjustments the rest of the week if I have a bad day. For example this past Sunday we did a holiday baking thing. I totally binged and consumed over 4000 calories. This put me more than one full days allowance over goal since I’m on a cut. So I decided this week I would aim for maintenance, or just below, then get back to my cut next week. I didn’t want to skip eating for 1 1/2 days to get back to my deficit lol. I’ve been cutting a little extra each day since and I increased activity a little without feeling deprived or punished. I’m currently 80-100 calories over still for the week but I can reduce that from my eating tomorrow to break even. If I hadn’t logged the binge I wouldn’t have been able to do this. I would have either gained weight back or over restricted to try and make up for it, which in my experience only leads to feeling deprived and having more binges.
That’s exactly why I log my heavy-eating days as well as I can. I’m having friends over for a game day and gift exchange on Saturday and I have already pre-logged what I think I’ll eat. I may add more of some things or eat less of something - and since I’m the hostess I know exactly what will be served lol - but for now it’s a rough idea of how much I’m going over. Now that I have an idea, I reduced my calories today, made a plan for what to eat tomorrow to keep low on calories then, and on Sunday I’ll short myself some calories as well to even it all out. If I can I’ll even dedicate a few of my workouts to making it up. You’d be surprised sometimes when you think you’ve eaten a crazy amount of food, it might not be as bad as you think it is. Normally I’m surprised to find I basically just had a maintenance day. You won’t know that if you don’t log. YMMV though and if it makes you spiral you might want to evaluate why that is and try thinking about it differently.5 -
I log it. If I can't log as I go I do my best estimate later. I find it helps control the slide and sometimes its not as bad as i expect.0
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No, I don't log when I'm having a bad period, but I probably should. I do move on though and get back in track.
I've lost 60 pounds /25 kg since March 2017 and I have had five periods of several weeks of bad eating in that time span. It happens when I'm tired/stressed/sick/life happens.
I can gain up to 9lbs/4 kg in a short time span (though I can also lose half of that in the first few days after restricting calories again. It's a set back, but no disaster. I'm a 6'1/185 man starting out at 256 lbs/116 kg.
The worst one was from april 2018. My girlfriend left me and my job was closing down (don't worry, I found someone better and we raised the funds to keep going) and for several months the only good thing was that I kept running and started taking weight training seriously. I kind of half logged, just not very consistently.
In the end I got to mid July and decided to jost take two weeks totally off from thinking about it while on vacation in Spain. I enjoyed great food and ice cream and when I got back I'd gone from 111 lbs/96 kg in late April to 221 lbs/100 kg.
But I was ready to go again. I think it was good for my body to have several months to adjust to having lost a lot of weight and in mid November I was at 199/90.5.
Thats when something els I can't control happened. I got sick but didn't have time to actually be sick. For almost three weeks I had a cold that I finally allowed to develop into full blown phemonia the day after an important deadline on December 2nd.
For those three weeks my eating.... Um, when I'm really tired, as I were, I crave fat and carbs and I love ice cream. We're talking a lot of ice cream and fast food.
The difference from before is that I don't let it bring me down. I accept it and know I'll get back on track.
For the last six days I've been tracking again (since the antibiotics properly kicked in and I got some real sleep) and I'm losing again. I'm not down to my mid-November weight yet and I missed my goal for when I'm going in holiday next week, but I've gone from 207lbs/94 kg in the last week to 202/91,5 (all water and carbs, but it's a start).
Now what to learn from this? I've had three periods of being sick since starting and I've gained weight all three times. I accept that and it's okay. Can't be helped and I'm back on the wagon after 2-3 weeks. Just moving on.
I've had two times when life happened. In those periods it's about minimizing losses. But I also really think the body needs to adjust, so I roll with it and then start losing again at some point. It's like hitting a huge plateau and then crossing it.
I've lost a lot of weight and it keeps coming off. Not steadily week by week but in stops and starts.
I've missed every single deadline I've set for myself. You know, "be at this weight on this date". But I'm way, way past the weight of my first deadline.
So just get back on it. Maybe today, maybe in three days, maybe a week. Maybe you take five days off from thinking about it at all and then get back in it.
Just take it as a blip on an otherwise constant upward trajectory (bonus points for getting the reference).6 -
I have to log it to keep myself honest as well as visually see it after the fact. The calorie count is a real eye opener for me and actually helps me. I am pretty new here and my over the top calorie days are fewer and fewer, so I think logging it no matter what is actually helping.4
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Your post sounded so familiar to me. I too had a great summer, then slipped a bit (and then some, in my case lol). I starting having a few binges and initially was logging them. Then that got depressing so I stopped, the binges became an everyday event and I had no idea what I was actually consuming, calorie-wise. Over the last week I've really made an effort to log everything again and honestly, after the break I'm really enjoying it again. I'm a stone up on where I was, which is annoying but in the grand scheme of things is not the end of the world I guess.
Maybe try logging everything for a few days and just keep an eye on what emotions and thoughts that raises in you. Good luck with it all x.0 -
Accountability means everything to me, so yes. If I stop logging because of an unfortunate calorie count, then I'd only be working my way back up to my high weight. (It's happened in the past.) It's actually less worrisome to log everything; my mind assumes the worst most highest calorie intake, so it's a relief to find out it's not that horrible.1
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I log my “ bad days “ because it stops me by seeing the calories I’ve consumed.
Yesterday I made buns and ate 3.... by logging them I skipped a meal and stayed on track even though my carbs were higher then usual .
Honesty is important even with yourself , and starting over again after a day like that takes discipline. Good luck you’re not alone1 -
I don't usually, no. It would be nearly impossible (though, if I slowed myself down enough to measure/log what I was eating, maybe I'd have a better chance of correcting things), and I'm very well aware of what I'm doing and why... I don't need to log it for some additional degree of honesty or accountability.
The only time I've ever tried to log it was when I was trying to keep my data as complete and as accurate as possible for identifying long term trends.0 -
I try to log at least a calorie estimate. What I eat is one important part of my behavior. A perhaps bigger part is what triggered the over-eating. I ponder these and am going to begin writing a personal blog about them. If I can make myself write some rational statements before I binge, I believe it will become a better response to the trigger than binging. If I can't make myself do it before, then I can do it shortly after while the memories are still fresh and maybe work toward a better response. MFP has the personal blog spot and I may use that.
I've learned that before I can fix a behavior problem, I must understand it. I believe journalling will help me understand it better. I've been studying habit change and it is all about triggers and responses. Strategies are finding ways to avoid triggers and improving responses.4 -
I log it.
I try to be honest with my FOOD page. My body is logging the calories regardless, so why would I benefit from fudging my food diary?
There are days when I'm 500-1500 calories over. It happens about once a week. I still log it. In the beginning of weight loss those days were frequent and I would not log them. That tends to give me a mental thumbs up to keep doing it, "I already messed up today/this week/this month/this year." That is counter-productive and just doesn't help me.
My number of days of being 2000+ calories over my plan are now manageable. They are: Christmas. My birthday. The Fair. A couple other Special Events.
Log it, think about it. Don't log it, live in denial.3 -
Sometimes I need a mental health break from logging. This won't be a popular opinion, but we all have to find our own way. I'm to the point where I can stay in a deficit and still lose slowly without logging for a few weeks at a time (but I know my nutrition suffers, so I try not to do it for too long at a stretch). I'm in a 'no log it' mood at the moment. However, this is 2 years in and lots of practice recognizing appropriate portions.4
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I log whatever I can. When I don't log is when I know I've gone so over calories that I personally don't see the point in logging because I know what I ate will have caused some weight gain. My eating went out of the window in October when winter set in and my mood went downhill. I bought a light therapy lamp and have been using it all day every day because I need that simulated sunlight. It's helped improve my mood, which in turn has helped me stay more on track with my eating. But as it's holiday season, I don't have any issue with indulging myself a couple times a week. Even so, I've been terrified to weigh myself because I thought I'd put on tons of weight from overeating for three months. But I weighed myself today and I've put on less than 4lbs. Turns out I've been eating optimally more often than I haven't.
Winter overeating is a thing. Our ancestors would've overeaten in order to lay down fat stores that would keep them alive through harsh seasons. We still have that evolutionary hangover because humans evolve very slowly. Most of us no longer need to lay down extra fat, but our brains haven't caught up with that fairly new development, so we still feel that urge to eat more in anticipation of successfully getting through the harsher months.
You're not failing. Your mood is low, perhaps due to circumstances, weather, physical/hormonal changes, and your eating pattern has changed temporarily, perhaps due to that 40,000 years-out-of-touch caveperson brain yelling at you to put on some weight so you don't starve to death before spring or get so weak you can't hunt that woolly mammoth you've had your eye on since summer.
Log whatever you can, so you can look back and pinpoint any patterns where your diet changed, and try and formulate a strategy for coping with those pitfalls in the future. Try not to beat yourself up with thoughts of "bad/junk" foods. No food is good, bad, clean or junk. Food is essentially neutral. How you eat it is what's important. If you can gradually lessen the frequency of eating more fatty, carb loaded things, and increase your intake of lower saturated fats, complex carbs, vegetables, fruits, legumes etc, you can gradually return to the eating pattern that best suits your long term health & wellness goals. Cut yourself some slack. You've identified the issue and can start taking steps to tackle it.2 -
I try to log everything and the reason is that I have found that when I figure I've blown it I tend to overeat even more. Since I've been with MFP I've learned that often it isn't as bad as I thought and logging it makes me stop. If I don't log it becomes a free for all and I will consume unlimited calories. One other thing I would like to mention is that when I started I was at 1200 calories attempting to lose 2 lbs. a week (I averaged 1.7). I had 85+ pounds left to lose and I wanted it off fast like everyone else. After the first year I got stuck. I went on a diet break and when I went off I never could get back to the 1200. I reduced my rate of loss and was able to lose another 20 pounds. Sometimes we sabotage ourselves by trying to cut back too drastically. If you are doing that maybe slow down a bit and you might have more success. Good luck and don't give up!3
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I always log. How else am I mean to keep track? To me it's even more important when having a 'bad' diet day.0
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Logging helps reduce my anxiety about how much I'm actually eating, even on the bad days. Generally, I have not eaten as much as I think, and what feels like 3,000 calories over maintenance is actually only like 1,000 calories over. My goal when I struggle is to just log, as keeping up the habit makes it much, much easier to get back on track, because I only have one habit to get back into (deficit eating) and not two (deficit eating and logging).1
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Yes, when I stop logging I tend to really spiral out of control. For me, logging makes it so I don’t have days or weeks of over-eating. Having to log one bad day is enough to get me back on track. If I stop logging though it’s easier for me to lie to myself that it’s not that bad.1
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My husband logs religiously. Me not so much but my lack of logging bad days didn’t hold me back from achieving my goal weight in an acceptable time frame (roughly a year and a bit over 100 lbs) so I think it depends on the person.1
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I go through these phases. I find what helps me the most with getting back on track is to just start logging regardless of calories. I put myself in the mindset that I'm not trying to stay within a goal because my only goal is logging. Restricting back to within my calorie goal comes naturally from consistent logging for me.0
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I almost always log, but sometimes I get off track and it’s just too stressful to deal with it. Instead of waiting to the next day to get back on track, I worry about my next meal. For example, if I get off track during the day at work, I eat exactly as I would have planned at dinner time. My meal times are fairly consistent calories from day to day. So I find it encouraging to be in track one meal at a time from an emotional standpoint instead of stressing about what is already in the past.1
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I've been logging daily for about 4 years pretty honestly. Generally I plan my eating and eat food prepared from home so choices are limited. I don't follow a very restrictive diet just watch calorie intake so it is not really bad.
If I eat over my goal consistantly I'm not going to lose weight whether I log it or not. Logging can help me see what I am really doing and if there is a pattern.
I'm not fooling myself if I don't log. I have a pretty fair idea of calorie counts in my head by now. I know what I am doing if I eat over my goal.
I am not an emotional eater. I don't look at one high calorie day or week, feel doomed and just give up. Every day I get up and start over again with new choices.0 -
Right now, I log it, and don't stress it. I want accountability right now, so I log everything. There have been years when I only wanted to maintain and I needed a logging break, so then? I might not log it. For now, though, I am logging everything so that I know what and when to make adjustments.
I don't stress (too much) when I go over, however. I can adjust the next day... it's like sound on a TV. Some shows are really loud and you have to adjust the volume down. Other shows are really soft and so the volume goes up. Food is a constant adjustment -- for life, for choices, for the unexpected.
Whatever happens today, I know that tomorrow can (and most likely will) be different somehow depending on what i choose!
Good luck!!1 -
I know I "should" but I don't. Like you, it makes me feel bad and not want to keep logging. I know that if I did log though it would probably shame me into keeping on track. But instead I just skip it, get it out of my system, and continue later when I'm "back." It overwhelms me.
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I do when I can. When I stop logging, I know I’m really down in the dumps.0
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Log everything, learn from it and adjust your choices. When I first started logging I was amazed at what I assumed were bad choices and what I assumed were good choices in food. I think I was four months into logging when found out bacon was only 45 calories a slice! To me, it tasted like it was 500 calories a slice so I ignorantly didn't eat bacon for several months. There are many food and recipes that are advertised or reputed to be low calorie, high calorie, or healthy or unhealthy that are exaggerations. There are many lower calorie/ diet foods that are much lower in taste and texture but just ever so slightly lower in calories than their full calorie cousin. You have to log all this to discover and really learn what works best for you. You don't have to share your food log with anyone, but you need to be honest with yourself and learn what you like and what you don't like.0
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I log 95% of the time. But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t have those days when I just said screw it. But they’re rare!1
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Logging everything keeps me from going over the limit for the week.
A day here and there is fine. I just make sure the weekly net calories balance.
(Been logging 1345 days. In maintenance nearly 1000 days.)3 -
I'm not confident that I've ever been OUT of a bad place, eating-wise. So, sure. I log.1
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Yup. Helps me with accountability as well as seeing where any fat gain came from. Nobody’s perfect 100% of the time. Log and keep moving forward.1
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