Is the creamer worth it?
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NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
I had a personal trainer who told me not to eat dairy. She said it's bad for me. I said, why? You feed your son dairy. She said, that's different. Shortly after that she was no longer my trainer.
I lost a LOT of weight and never gave up dairy.18 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
There are a lot of roads which can lead to the same place. It's quite possible that eating on his eating plan (haven't seen it) will put you in a caloric deficit - all that is necessary to lose weight - and allow you to succeed at your goals. If you want to follow his plan without the trouble of making decisions for yourself, probably nothing he is suggesting will kill you.
However, it's not NECESSARY to follow his plan to lose weight and gain muscle. Many people do those things while eating dairy.
There are successful bodybuilders who are vegan, and successful bodybuilders who chug milk and eat steaks. The important thing is to choose a way of eating which makes you happy, so that you will stick with it, which is necessary to be successful in the long term. It doesn't sound like giving up creamer in your coffee is what you want to do - so don't. Find a way to make it fit into your calorie goals.8 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Does your trainer also hold an academic degree in nutrition, and is a registered dietitian?
If he's not, and he doesn't, pay him no mind. It's purely broscience, with no actual basis for anything.
Dairy is fine unless you are lactose intolerant.
I've never questioned it because he holds classes on what types of food to eat, prepares meal plans and coaches a lot of body builders. I'm not sure if he actually holds a degree in nutrition
If I believed everything that everyone ever told me about what to eat, what not to eat, what's good, what's bad, I still wouldn't know what I would be able to eat or not eat. Everyone has an opinion, everyone seems to want to share it, and everyone thinks their way is the best. Not all trainers have an education in nutrition. Most MDs don't even know much about nutrition. Do your homework, and if you are going to research on the internet, make sure your sources are reputable. Remember, anyone can post anything on the internet and say it's true.3 -
To me it sounds like the trainer has suggested cutting calorie dense food that people can easily overeat. It's unnecessary for weight loss to cut a whole food group, but only if your are carefully tracking how much of that food group you are eating. Aka weighing all your foods and eating within your calorie range. Since many people won't do this, people try eliminating certain foods is a way to lower calorie intake sort of 'by accident'. That's why some of the WW core food programs work for some people - people are unlikely to overeat those core foods and so accidentally eat less calorically.
If you are committed to weighing and tracking your food, and have no other food sensitivities, then go ahead and have your dairy!3 -
Definitely question your personal trainer. My personal training book has a very brief chapter on nutrition and there is no mention of cutting dairy. The information given is very basic and similar to what you see posted here. Moderation, no fad diets, etc.
In fact it states:Most people trying to lose weight want to omit food groups or extremely limit an entire nutrient class. The advice should be that fad diets do not work in the long run. Instead, clients should educate themselves on the six classes of nutrients the body needs for proper function.
And as a side note:
I drink coffee multiple times a day and there is always 70 calories from creamer. I also eat cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese and drink milk. No problems losing weight.8 -
I put 3/4C of hot milk in every cup of coffee, and (as an ovo-lacto vegetarian) probably get 1/3-1/2 of my protein most days from dairy foods of all sorts. It didn't prevent me from losing nearly 1/3 of my body weight in just under a year, and it hasn't stopped me maintaining a healthy weight for about 3 years since.
Some people are lactose intolerant: They experience negative symptoms from eating dairy foods. Those people shouldn't eat dairy foods. Me, I have nice Northern European genes from many generations of ancestors who ate lots of dairy, thus am not lactose intolerant, so it's fine.
There's a branch of trendy "nutrition" advice these days that says everyone would be better off without dairy, gluten, and sugar. That's all nonsense, in that form, anyway.
The truth (IMNSHO): Everyone would be better off if they got well-rounded nutrition - enough protein, enough fats (especially MUFAs and PUFAs), and a boatload of varied, colorful fruits and veggies, plus such treats (for joy) as fit into a calorie goal that keeps them at a healthy weight; and they should avoid foods that make them, personally, sick or cause allergic reactions. That's it. Any other rules are personal choice and optional.
Only you know whether the creamer is worth it. The trainer's nutritional advice is Not Good.
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I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.0
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I would:
1. Lose the trainer that put that idea out there in the first place because whatever else he’s peddling is probably nonsense as well
2. Stop randomly googling things like “will dairy prevent me from losing weight” because when you frame your search in that way you will find all sorts of non scientific information that confirms the bias you’ve already shown
3. Read up on the actual mechanism of weight loss. It is quite simple: CICO. You can eat any foods you like, in the context of an overall balanced diet, and if you are in a calorie deficit you will lose weight. That includes dairy. You can also give the stickied “most helpful forum posts” a read as they are a wealth of information.12 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »So, I've read that dairy is bad for you if your goal is to lose weight so I stopped consuming dairy products. Although it wasn't an easy thing to do because, I mean.. delicious melty cheese! But I I think my body finally started getting used to the lack of dairy and I don't even crave it.
There is one thing however, that I'm still not 100% on. I would prefer to drink my coffee with creamer. I know that adding creamer to it would break my Dairy streak but I'm wondering... Is it really going to affect me losing weight by adding a teaspoon to a tablespoon of creamer every morning? Or is a dairy free diet more beneficial and the creamer will throw things out of balance?
I know that the amount of creamer that I add to my coffee is only five calories.
All I know is that 6 days a week, my breakfast consists of Greek yogurt, fruit (mainly grapes, occasionally blueberries, clementines, or if I don't have a full cup of fresh fruit, I'll mince up a small amount of dried fruit to make up for it) and a granola bar. Hasn't hurt a thing!
ETA: I do ration my cheese, but that's because I could eat a pound a day if I had access to it. Once a week, I get two slices of Muenster or Havarti on a bagel and savor every bite.5 -
I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.
Omg 🤤 cheese is the best... reading all of this people's comments is making me think that perhaps he suggested for me to cut all dairy because- something that most people have said is right- that is the one thing that we tend to indulge in.
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Well.... I'm headed to the kitchen and making a fresh cup of coffee with some half & half 😋😄
Thanks everyone 👍25 -
Drop dairy
What about my frozen yogurt?! lol. If dairy doesn't bother your stomach then there is no reason to stop eating it. As for the coffee creamer, if you feel those calories are worth it then you just have to make it work. 1 -
The only thing in any food that affects weight is it's calories. Go ahead and go for that delicious dairy! Just make sure you stick to your calorie goals.2
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NashvilleRealtor wrote: »I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.
Omg 🤤 cheese is the best... reading all of this people's comments is making me think that perhaps he suggested for me to cut all dairy because- something that most people have said is right- that is the one thing that we tend to indulge in.
I was dairy-free when I was in Costa Rico for 6 weeks and dropped a size without trying, but it was just one of many ways I inadvertently reduced calories, not because there is anything inherently wrong with dairy.3 -
I wouldn't get into it with the trainer. If you like him and he helps you stick to your exercise plan that's one thing, but in my state it's against the law to practice diet advising without a license.
Just smile and nod when he talks about food...what he doesn't know won't cause an argument.
I am also one who has always eaten cheese, full fat milk and yogurt, half and half, ice cream and other dairy products all throughout my 70+ pounds of weight loss eleven years ago - and I've been eating it and maintaining my weight as well for all those years.
Calories. That's it. Plus, it's a great inexpensive easy to use source of protein, calcium, potassium and other nutrients.3 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »So, I've read that dairy is bad for you if your goal is to lose weight so I stopped consuming dairy products. Although it wasn't an easy thing to do because, I mean.. delicious melty cheese! But I I think my body finally started getting used to the lack of dairy and I don't even crave it.
There is one thing however, that I'm still not 100% on. I would prefer to drink my coffee with creamer. I know that adding creamer to it would break my Dairy streak but I'm wondering... Is it really going to affect me losing weight by adding a teaspoon to a tablespoon of creamer every morning? Or is a dairy free diet more beneficial and the creamer will throw things out of balance?
I know that the amount of creamer that I add to my coffee is only five calories.
I'm not going to dissuade you from being 100% dairy-free, however, I will recommend you consider homemade alternative milk creamers for your coffee. Personally, I prefer almond vanilla without any sweetener for my chais and hot cocoa.
https://youtu.be/MlN79VbyR10 10 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
Get a new one. Stat1 -
https://youtu.be/Rx9lZKSACFc
The evidence around dairy is quite contrary to his beliefs as others said.1 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Where did you read that dairy was bad for you? Calories are what stop you losing weight not dairy.
I have eaten plenty of delicious cheese, cream, butter, whole milk, etc whilst I have lost my weight. The only time my weight loss is hindered is when I eat too much food.
My personal trainer asked me to stop eating all dairy. He said that I would see results faster if I stopped consuming dairy so I Googled it
The amount of false information to be found by googling is amazing.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »I wouldn't get into it with the trainer. If you like him and he helps you stick to your exercise plan that's one thing, but in my state it's against the law to practice diet advising without a license.
Just smile and nod when he talks about food...what he doesn't know won't cause an argument.
I am also one who has always eaten cheese, full fat milk and yogurt, half and half, ice cream and other dairy products all throughout my 70+ pounds of weight loss eleven years ago - and I've been eating it and maintaining my weight as well for all those years.
Calories. That's it. Plus, it's a great inexpensive easy to use source of protein, calcium, potassium and other nutrients.
I agree. If you like your trainer for the exercise advice/plan he gives I would just smile and nod when he gives nutrition advice. I don't think he has any business telling you to go off dairy. There's no basis for that, it's just his personal opinion. If you're going to go around giving people nutrition advice, it should be something backed up with scientific evidence otherwise I think he's being really irresponsible. Especially since he's in a position where people who are new to diet and fitness go to a person like that because they assume he knows what he's talking about. This really annoys me for some reason lol2 -
Didn’t read all the comments, but honestly I prefer almond milk creamer! It seems creamier to me. But for overall health, yes I’ve heard dairy can cause inflammation and stuff. I mean, I would never cut it out personally, unless I was having major digestion and inflammation problems.9
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I used to only ever drink black coffee ( which I still love). Now sometimes I use a little creamer in my coffee. I don’t eat any sweets or snack so this is the only bad habit I have. So no I’m not giving it up.2
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I use multiple servings of sugar free creamer per day and have Greek yogurt almost daily. Still losing weight. If anything, knowing I can have my version of coffee or tea light and sweet when I need a pick me up keeps me on plan.3
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Yes it’s worth it:)
I needed a little more protein so I started as someone suggested here (sorry I forgot who you are but thank you) to mix premier protein drink with coffee. I add some cinnamon and warm it up and man it’s a good tasting latte:).4 -
NashvilleRealtor wrote: »I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.
Omg 🤤 cheese is the best... reading all of this people's comments is making me think that perhaps he suggested for me to cut all dairy because- something that most people have said is right- that is the one thing that we tend to indulge in.
You can over-indulge in *any* food or drink, not just dairy products.
As mentioned before, either get a new trainer (because this one clearly doesn't have a clue) or just disregard any nutrition 'advice' he gives you.
Enjoy your creamer!
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My mother-in-law is diabetic, disabled, and can barely walk - she has lost 50 lbs using ONLY diet (obviously no exercise.) She eats super clean - but you know what the only thing she still indulges in is? Coffee creamer. She lost 50 lbs in a year with diet, no exercise, and drinking coffee creamer in her coffee. It can be done :P0
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NashvilleRealtor wrote: »I don’t do creamer. The calories aren’t worth it to me and I actually like black coffee. I won’t give up dairy though. I have done paleo in the past, and while I felt amazing eating that way I just love cheese to much to stick to it. Dairy has had zero affect on my weight as long as I keep it within my calorie budget.
Omg 🤤 cheese is the best... reading all of this people's comments is making me think that perhaps he suggested for me to cut all dairy because- something that most people have said is right- that is the one thing that we tend to indulge in.
A few years ago I was going on a beach vacation with my trainer and his wife and family. I wanted to just lose 5 or so vanity pounds before the trip and his eating plan for me cut out dairy save for in very small amounts. This was not because dairy is bad, but because it is typically high fat and thus high calorie so it is very easy to indulge on excess calories. He basically just gave me a low fat plan that reduced my calorie intake while everything else remained pretty much the same. It was very temporary...as in only about one month or a little less.0 -
I used to have a little coffee with my morning creamer. I finally had to give up coffee and creamer entirely. But my daughter is losing weight, and she still enjoys her morning latte. For me, the coffee contributed to my high blood pressure, and the creamer came with a lot of calories that were difficult to fit into my nutrition budget. I loved that sweet creamer that comes in coffee-shop flavors. I could probably try soy or nut milk, but I'm drinking water instead and I don't miss the coffee.
I also used to drink a gallon of milk every four or five days, and gave that up as well. For me, it's all about the calories vs nutrition. Almond and soy are good, and have fewer calories. I also feel that reducing animal products is better for the world.
One thing I'd worry about if you want to have kids, is keeping your bones strong. Babies will take calcium from your bones if you don't have enough in your diet. Dairy is good for that--which your trainer might not consider. You can get enough calcium through other foods, but you have to be conscious about it.0 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »Yes it’s worth it:)
I needed a little more protein so I started as someone suggested here (sorry I forgot who you are but thank you) to mix premier protein drink with coffee. I add some cinnamon and warm it up and man it’s a good tasting latte:).
I do something similar - I add protein powder to coffee, which needs to cool a tad first. Actually, first I add the protein powder to the chia seeds and water they soaked in. Coffee PP breakfast smoothie 0
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