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pierinifitness wrote: »

kimny72 wrote: »

There are already recommended weight guidelines, aren't there? BMI, BF%, waist circumference, waist to hip ratio. Maybe if you explained why you think your guideline was better than those we'd be better able to comment.

Didn’t say mine was better, just said it was mine.

You said it should be the benchmark for all middle-aged men.

pierinifitness wrote: »

If you read my initial post, my assumptions were that this mythical 18 year old was done growing, not skinny or fat or heavily-muscled. Basically, normal or average.

The 10 percent allows for an American reality that most of us are less active than we were in high school. Realize my frame of reference is my generation when we walked to school, played outdoors and had PE class every day in high school. There were no video games or computers or smartphones.

Not asking anyone to accept my proposition. My guess is that those who won’t are those who would also reject the BMI benchmarks.

Ok. I guess I'm confused. You proposed something and asked for comments but now you don't seem to really want to discuss it.

For what its worth, I'm actually always a BMI supporter here.

pierinifitness wrote: »

If you read my initial post, my assumptions were that this mythical 18 year old was done growing, not skinny or fat or heavily-muscled. Basically, normal or average.

The 10 percent allows for an American reality that most of us are less active than we were in high school. Realize my frame of reference is my generation when we walked to school, played outdoors and had PE class every day in high school. There were no video games or computers or smartphones.

Not asking anyone to accept my proposition. My guess is that those who won’t are those who would also reject the BMI benchmarks.

No, I accept BMI. Your idea (which I qualify for) would put me just above the normal range of BMI, just barely into overweight, the same as it does you, using your numbers from the initial post.

pierinifitness wrote: »

If you read my initial post, my assumptions were that this mythical 18 year old was done growing, not skinny or fat or heavily-muscled. Basically, normal or average.

The 10 percent allows for an American reality that most of us are less active than we were in high school. Realize my frame of reference is my generation when we walked to school, played outdoors and had PE class every day in high school. There were no video games or computers or smartphones.

Not asking anyone to accept my proposition. My guess is that those who won’t are those who would also reject the BMI benchmarks.

I met your assumptions at 18.

I'm not American, just like the majority of middle aged men. Nationality wasn't part of your proposal.

Now I'm retired I'm more active and do far more exercise than when I was 18. My main objection is I really don't really see why an individual would compromise their personal standards because their peers aren't willing or able to be active and exercise. Why aspire to be average especially when that average is increasingly unhealthy?

I actually think BMI is a good range for the vast majority of people and also works for me, my current best weight is at the top of the BMI healthy range. If I used your guideline I would be fatter than optimal for health and athletic performance.
My BMI at 18 was in the healthy range, at my most muscular I was a genuine slight outlier in that I was overweight due to higher than usual muscle mass (not really atypical in a young male gym using demographic but that demographic itself is a minority across the whole population). In my fat two decades I was simply overweight due to being too fat despite maintaining a good fitness level.

You wouldn't have got push back if you had said "I picked my goal weight based on...…"
That your proposal might be suitable for you simply doesn't translate to a universal truth.

CarvedTones wrote: »

pierinifitness wrote: »

My definition (mine only) - middle-aged is 35 to 69 and.99 cents. Old begins at 70.

Yeah, 60 is the new 40. But 9 PM is the new midnight... :laugh:

You really get me. Consider yourself hugged for this.

@pierinifitness Congratulations !
I began my WLJ at age 65 (middle age?LOL) close to six years ago.

2013 my SW at 376 5’8”
In High School I was 5’ 9 1/2” 185#

After losing -190 I told my Dr I wanted to set my GW 184 that would be one pound less than my High School football weight! She suggested 179 to get my BMI lower. But with so much loose skin I was happy to get to 184. I made it March and have been successfully maintaining for ten months.

Current Weight is 178 so I plan to keep trying in 2019 and lose an even -200 and keep it there.

OP
Have you checked your height accurately? You know with age you may need to check, I ALWAYS said I was almost 5’10” LOL! Mot any more!