Transitioning to Veganism/plant based?

meeper123
meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
edited December 19 in Health and Weight Loss
I have been thinking about this for several months and I feel in my heart I need to do this. It isnt just to be healthier it is a moral thing as well. I need advice on how to go from standard American diet to vegan. I have already started using vegan products and such that isn't food related but I thought it may be harder with food. Any help on dealing with an husband who down right hates this is also appropriated!

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  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    Thanks that is my biggest concern that he will think I am going to change him. It's more of a personal thing. I want to leave less of a foot print as well which will effect him but I figure I can ease into it
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    No I dont want to push my beliefs on him
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited January 2019
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Maybe start with vegetarian and go from there.

    As far as your husband goes, are you wanting him to do this as well? Because that would be a big no way for me...that's not something you can force on other people.

    I have never ever ever heard of it going well someone goes vegan and insists their partner join them. It seems like conflict, deception, and frustration are the most likely outcomes there.

    I do know several people who never thought they would be vegan who eventually enthusiastically joined their vegan partners because they were given time and space to make their own decision, but it's not something that you can (or should) count on.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    I have been doing the 1 meal at a time thing so far breakfast but I think I'll do a meal prep to make a no brainer :)
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    I just recently transitioned to a more plant based diet with maybe seafood once a week. My husband and kids are omni. I'm not going to change them but I may introduce things to them they may enjoy. Forcing someone to do anything will probably be met with resistance.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost
  • zeejane03
    zeejane03 Posts: 993 Member
    edited January 2019
    meeper123 wrote: »
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost

    I'm transitioning to a more plant based, pescetarian woe and it's not any more expensive to eat this way-just be mindful of fresh produce, which can be expensive if it's out of season. I use a lot of frozen veg/fruit this time of year which is cheap. Do you have an Aldi nearby? They are a gold mine for cheap fresh and frozen produce! They also have the most amazing sprouted grains bread, I believe it's vegan? It's $2.50 a loaf, which is a lot cheaper than any other comparable brand

    I do all the cooking in my house and it's not a big deal to make different meals. Tonight I made my family homemade (pepperoni and bacon) pizzas and then I had a roasted potato/mushroom bowl with a side of baked beans. I prepped everything at the same time and we still sat down together. I'm also big on pre-prepping-the bacon for the pizzas was leftovers from their supper last night, I cut a lot of my veggies ahead of time, I make a big batch of rice on Mondays to use throughout the week etc. There's a learning curve, but it's not too difficult once you get the hang of it :)
  • apullum
    apullum Posts: 4,838 Member
    meeper123 wrote: »
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost

    The cost of being vegan vs. not being vegan depends a lot on what you used to eat, and what you eat now. You can spend a lot of money on expensive vegan proteins and other products, just as you can spend a lot of money on expensive meat and cheese. But staple foods like tofu, TVP, dried beans, dried pasta, some grains, and some canned/frozen/fresh veggies are cheap. You can also buy wheat gluten to make your own seitan, which is a lot cheaper than buying it prepackaged. There's no reason why being vegan has to be any more expensive than not being vegan, and some people even find that it's cheaper. It just depends on your diet.
  • Maxxitt
    Maxxitt Posts: 1,281 Member
    meeper123 wrote: »
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost

    It seems to me that if your partner is going to be in your life, animal products will come with him. I agree with the suggestion to have some serious (and loving) conversations. Good luck.

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited January 2019
    meeper123 wrote: »
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost

    If you are willing to put in the prep time, cost won't be an issue. For example, dried beans are extremely economical. Rice and (dried) beans are staples in some poor countries. I cook beans overnight in my crock pot; no presoaking required. Others here love making beans in their InstaPots.

    Here we discuss making seitan from scratch: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/43108554/#Comment_43108554

  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
    @meeper123 check out PCRM and their 21 day kick start. Gives you all the tools you need to get started.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    Ooo nice I want to make so much as I can alone and while I may sample a few products here and there I plan on mostly whole foods
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    @nowine4me sounds exactly the thing! Thanks!!
  • apullum
    apullum Posts: 4,838 Member
    Do you have a crock pot? I use mine to cook dried beans, which I freeze. I also make and freeze spaghetti sauce and vegan chili in it, and it’s great for soups/stews.

    You and your husband may want to brainstorm meals that are “accidentally” vegan, or have easy vegan and non-vegan options. Spaghetti with marinara is one. He can add cheese and/or meatballs to his. Burgers are another. You can make and freeze your own veggie burgers (I like the black bean burgers from Veganomicon) if you don’t like any of the prepackaged ones. He can have meat patties and you can have veggie patties.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    That's a wonderful idea he likes veggie burgers actually
  • apullum
    apullum Posts: 4,838 Member
    meeper123 wrote: »
    That's a wonderful idea he likes veggie burgers actually

    Here's the recipe I use: https://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/recipe-vegan-black-bean-burgers/

    Soups and sandwiches might also be things you can agree on. Tomato or other veggie soups are nice and low calorie. For sandwiches, he can have cold cuts or whatever else he wants, while you have veggies, hummus, marinated tofu/tempeh, etc. If he'll eat salads, then you can have a variety of salad toppings and dressings. He can put meat, eggs, cheese, dairy-based dressings, etc. on his if he wants.
  • zeejane03
    zeejane03 Posts: 993 Member
    Burritos and tacos are another easy one to multi-use-he can use taco meat and you can use beans, all the other toppings will be similar, except for the cheese.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    One meal at a time is a great idea. Cooking things that he might want to try (with an alternative for him) alternated with whatever you want/whatever he wants, with just the protein different seem like good ideas.

    I also think if you are new to this logging and doing vegetarian first may be good steps, since it is much harder to be vegan than veg in my experience (not that vegan is necessarily hard, but around here it's harder for protein if you aren't experienced, and harder for socializing/restaurants).

    I'd also make sure you like a huge variety of vegan foods (like veg), sometimes people who are picky and have a limited diet go vegan and I'm scared about what they will be able to eat.

    Definitely experiment with various ethnic cuisines where vegan or vegetarian dishes are more common, like East Asian and Indian.

    I totally respect the ethical position, if that's what you are responding to.

    He's a little woo-ey at times, but check out the Rich Roll podcast, I enjoy it and he's inspiring.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    I bought some things to make it easier like amy"s pad thai and mock chicken and some muesli
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    meeper123 wrote: »
    I plan on doing this with love and kindness which I feel the true soul of vegan is. I don't want to have animal products in my life at all. Plus he is very worried about the cost

    Veganism can be really affordable in many parts of the world, especially if you limit the amount of snack/convenience foods marketed especially for vegans. Some of my staples are beans, tofu, grains like rice and oats, pasta, potatoes, canned tomatoes, frozen vegetables, and more affordable fresh vegetables (cabbage, onions, carrots, greens). I also make my own seitan and often make my own cheeses, which helps control costs. I'll supplement this with some pre-made "treats" like vegan butter and mayo, Field Roast sausages, ice cream, and cashew milk, but my day-to-day meals are surprisingly affordable.
  • mywayroche
    mywayroche Posts: 218 Member
    Substituting meat for beans works out a lot cheaper if you bulk buy dried beans. I'm not vegan, I still drink milk for the vitamin b12, but I'm sure you could pull it off with a b12 supplement. Just watch your iron and b12, elemental iron isn't as easy to absorb, you need lots of vitamin c to help it along (unlike haemo iron from meat).
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