Weight Loss and Mindfulness
shel80kg
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After a lifetime of starting and stopping healthy eating habits and constant fluctuations with my weight, I thought I would seek out a group of like-minded folks and discuss our relationship(s) with food and eating. I thought it might be fun and interesting to engage in meaningful discussions regarding the choices we make around food. Please let me know if you would like to join me on this journey.
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My first submission: Today, I am breaking up with potato-chips and various bars of chocolate. "Old friends"...But no longer part of my future. I want to think mindfully about the ingredients and substances that alter my sugar levels and change my metabolism and quite probably my mood. I know that I use comfort food to manage boredom and bouts of sadness. Time to confront these patterns and face realty. I think we can detach quite completely from the way our body looks and feels and forget that we are in control of our immediate environment;i.e. our body...or at least what we put into it. I am by no means unrealistic. These changes take time but the time is now.
Let's see how today goes.
Quickly I hope.
Shel
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Hi Shel,
Today marks the start of me actually sticking to my calorie allowance, not under it, not over it, smack bang on it. I suffer an eating disorder (binging and purging/ starvation and self punishment). I have weight i need to lose, but know the way my disorder wants to do it isn't healthy. My therapist has taken away my scales and she weighs me once a week so i cant "punish myself" for even gaining half a pound.
My heart feels full and happy when I think about this new start. I've suffered with this for over 10 years now (I'm 25) and to lose weight healthily and not obsess that I've been doing it a few days and still haven't lost loads sounds like a dream to me.
Time to take control sensibly, listen to what my body needs and learn that not all foods are bad, I can have a treat once in a while and wont gain half a stone just from it alone if i continue being healthy afterwards.
Here's to a healthy, non-toxic relationship with food!
I hope this goes well.
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I don't have much weight to lose, but I do have an uncomfortable relationship with food sometimes. I love to "eat healthy" (which looks a bit different for everyone) and I love the way it makes me feel, but I also eat out of boredom and have some impulse control issues when it comes to "junk food," and I don't like the way I feel after I overindulge. I don't plan to cut out candy or sweets because I'm not about trying to restrict myself completely, but I would like to work on my self control when snacks and treats are present in whatever amount or setting they may come up.
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Casey4 -
I use mindfulness directly in the actual eating. I sit down to eat without a tv or computer or other distractions (except people, people are ok, unless they are trigger people). I put the fork/spoon down every few bites and focus on the after tastes. I only drink water with my meals. When I follow this, I never feel deprived between meals because I remember that I have eaten, including the textures and tastes.
When I got home from our holiday trip, I noticed that it took two or three days to really find those flavors again. I think it was due to the salt consumption pile on right at the end of the trip. Pre trip, even my gummie vitamins felt like a treat, the first day post trip, they tasted like nothing.6 -
Awesome stories and great insight. I think we underestimate how we have been programmed to eat at so many levels. We are creatures of habit and our brains look for the path of least resistance. Sugar was a rare treat for our ancestors and we have made so many “foods” so convenient that we use them as staple sources of nutrition and energy. Bugger that..,. they just taste good and more is better.
So, my fellow warriors....let’s change the story in our head and eat to live rather than live to eat. Of course food has to be enjoyable but not mood altering or as a replacement for love and comfort.
No fast food today. And I have made it to day......2! One day at a time.
Take care and chat again tomorrow!
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Awesome stories and great insight. I think we underestimate how we have been programmed to eat at so many levels. We are creatures of habit and our brains look for the path of least resistance. Sugar was a rare treat for our ancestors and we have made so many “foods” so convenient that we use them as staple sources of nutrition and energy. Bugger that..,. they just taste good and more is better.
So, my fellow warriors....let’s change the story in our head and eat to live rather than live to eat. Of course food has to be enjoyable but not mood altering or as a replacement for love and comfort.
No fast food today. And I have made it to day......2! One day at a time.
Take care and chat again tomorrow!
i don't fully agree with that... look how small children eat.
i saw my 4 year old nephew at lunch yesterday, he had a chocolate brownie and left the last 2 bites because he'd had enough.
a lot of adults would not do that! we learn to clear our plates and eat our feelings etc etc.9 -
I like this thread! Thank you for all the good discussions above.
Fortunately sweets have never been temptations for me. My husband is rather complaining that I never eat the chocolate he gave me as gift half a year ago. I store those sweets out of sight and they are often forgotten... LOL
But I overindulged in the cooking of home-made food for the last 10 years, since I left China for Europe. Probably used cooking as a compensation/comfort for being away from my home. I had no clue about calories and how much calories my body actually needs. Eating without consciousness about food - definitely not a good idea! The consequence is weight gain at about 1kg per year. So I need to do something to "reverse the time".
Now I have started to exercise properly and pay attention to what I put in my mouth. I have my calorie budget each day, which means every bite needs to count. My food is simpler, but tastier. I so much prefer this rather than being overwhelmed with flavors (and burdening my body with all the excessive calories).2 -
Hi Everyone,
I think it is true that some individuals have a more natural tendency to exert a degree of self control and self discipline when food choices are presented. There is clinical evidence that this tendency can begin at a very early age and often means that the individual has a good sense of when enough is "enough" or when it is okay to delay gratification for something "better". Sadly, I am not one of the people, at least at this point in my life and therefore need more external guardrails and controls to assist me in the self-monitoring. I do not see this as a character flaw or as a terrible part of myself. Just a learned response system that doesn't push me over the line of self-control. I think starting this thread and reaching out to you as well as inviting you to share your stories/experiences may be part of that...so thank you. Tavistock Toad, your nephew is on track to live a healthy and balanced life. Knowing when to not eat more chocolate...at the age of 4...is very cool and should be reinforced. I'm learning that skill decades later. That's life.
I broke yesterday and had a Turkish Delight. Think I was feeling a bit down and sad regarding some matters with work and family. Oh well. Will start a new day today. I have lost 5 kg and just completed a 6k walk so I will get my mojo back. We are all perfectly imperfect.
Have a great day.
It's Sunday in Australia. Beautiful outside. Make every moment count.
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Much better today. I love mornings. When you do feel the best about yourself? When do you feel the worst? Do you track your moods? Do they fluctuate? How do you stay consistent?
I would love to hear your successes. We all have them if we look in the right places. Its all about our attitude.
Shel
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I think weight management and honest approaches to weight loss are rather simple and straight forward. This site tries to make it sexy and exciting. Nothing wrong with that except it denies the reality that each of us has to look deep into ourselves and find the strength, discipline and courage to face the demands of behavioral changes over a long period of time. At first we can feel inspired and highly motivated. And then, inertia sets in and we can easily drift back to old established and automatic patterns of eating.
I think it’s important to stay focused and mindful of our choices and decisions and not let the “lazy” brain and strong temptations lull us back to the rut of poor choices that we have been bogged in for years.
Let’s keep moving forward and make each choice mindful and deliberate. We call do this even if it takes time and patients. It’s worth the effort.
Take care
Shel
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I have only just recently started to eat more mindfully. I do daily meditation as a form of stress relief and time with myself. I also try to be more mindful during other times of the day also, washing up the dishes, brushing my teeth. It's just sometimes that I go off the rails and can eat a whole block of chocolate or packet of chips without being fully present in the moment. It's times like these that derail me3
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MarkW...great examples of Mindfulness. Our brain is capable of such amazing feats. I am learning that we have the capacity to make great choices and can change our life's direction at any time. I think we have to become aware of what we truly want for ourselves and make ourselves clear and focused. Eating can default into an automatic set of responses and we have to work hard to remember what we are trying to achieve.
We all can do this.
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I have been pleased with the past two days and have become aware of a sense of detachment from thinking about food. I suppose that mindfulness can move our attention in different directions and perhaps eating and tasting and feeling full, satisfied and content may not be inextricably linked for all times. If we see our brains as in our control, maybe we can proceed with intention rather than just be on auto-pilot.
What are your thoughts?
Shel
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Very happy that there are also conversations like this in this forum. For the past 2 years I struggeled with overeating and mindless snacking. Eventually it became binging and over exercising. And some days I would just overeat and felt so *kitten* that i couldn't even exercise. So i gained almost 8kg in a year. During the last few months i have finally started to have a healthy relationship with food and exercise and have started to lose weight too.
I agree with all of the points made during this conversation and i think we can all take our lives into our hands and stop eating on auto pilot!3 -
Hi Helen, I like what you have said about taking our lives into "our hands". Living and eating with intention and thinking about what is good for us at many levels. It may seem like extra work to contemplate the fuel we pump into our bodies but the results may make it all worth while. We are deserve healthy and fit minds and bodies and we have to do whatever it takes to get there. For some individuals, this is a natural and straightforward process. For others (like me) it is a thoughtful, reflective and energy-requiring ambition. Nevertheless, we do what we have to do to get where we want to go in this life. That is both the beauty and challenge of our existence.
Hope you and all have a mindful day
Shel
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I'm seeing a dietician this week to discuss this issue. I NEED to do something about my issues with food. The more I focus on it the more I'm likely to self sabotage. But if I don't pay enough attention to my diet I'll end up getting too hungry and then grabbing junk food.0
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I have learned that I have a love/hate relationship with food. I've gained and lost weight my entire adult life. I have gone through eating disorder years as well. I'm back at the weight loss journey again and already getting discouraged and after only 2 months in. I am finding myself taking two steps forward and 20 steps back. I want to see food as fuel for my body and not let it have such a negative hold over me anymore. I'm journaling and writing down as many non-scale victories I have seen so far so I don't get discouraged with the scale not moving. May you all have a safe and healthy week!1
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We all learn from an early age how to manage our mind and body. There is a relationship between how we think about ourselves and what we "do" to and with ourselves. Food is just one example of this outcome of the relational truth: my body-my mind. Spend a little bit of time every day and meditate on the physical you. Learn to love and embrace your body and offer it support and reassurance and let it know that you are now going to look after yourself with care, intention and consistency. This is what I mean by conceptualising the notion of having a relationship with yourself.
What do you think? I would be interested in your ideas.
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I thought it might be fun and interesting to engage in meaningful discussions regarding the choices we make around food. Please let me know if you would like to join me on this journey.
It is a discussion I don't usually have. I'm in.
First let me confess that I reject the body and blood of keto....salmon and avocado.
I simply do not care for them.
I feel resignation the countless times I read a rapturous report of a zealous new ketonian listing their first days' meal of salmon with avocado, or avocado w/ salmon.
I do understand they contain stuff, and are thought to be delightful, and if I simply consumed them prepared in a certain special way I would see the light. Forgive me Dr. Atkins.2 -
You are a good writer. Funny.
I wonder whether the dieting paradigm we embrace turns us into religious fundamentalists. There is no one more righteous than converts.
I like Keto because it seems to offer speedy results and it’s challenging to stay in “Ketoland” given all of the rubbish I tend to enjoy chomping on. I may reconsider my zeal. Quite likely, we need to have a balanced diet but not as restrictive as the Keto lords decree. I’m at the halfway mark in my quest for the healthy body and I’m going to start loosening the K-chains. Wonder if I can still colour between the lines with regards to good choices? Tired of being a yo-yo.2 -
I wonder whether the dieting paradigm we embrace turns us into religious fundamentalists. There is no one more righteous than converts.
Well, yes and no. It seems vegan and keto enthusiasts get the label of being very vocal converts. I quit drinking, and I quit eating meat, and I quit smoking... but I don't vocalize any of this to anyone (unless pointedly asked) because I figure who cares?
It is interesting how people want others to do what they do. And it's not just dieting... this "my way or the highway" mindset goes across many methods and hobbies. Human nature? Guess it just depends on the person, and perhaps how comfortable (or not) they are with the choices they've made.
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I can think of at least two reasons why some people want to share their epiphanies. Firstly,one may have a desire to share good fortune ( or good ideas) with fellow human beings and promote well-being. I would like to think this is a positive aspect of our humanity. As long as it does not become judgemental and forced, it might serve as a way of expanding knowledge and experience as, unlike my first wife, most people can't know and be an expert on everything.
The second reason might be more in line with your reflection. There is, perhaps, an innate insecurity in many of us and consequently, there is strength in numbers and we look for validation and reassurance when we consider what we ought to believe. The tragic side to this is how beliefs morph into judgement and rigidity and how human beings manage diversity.
Thank you for sharing your private achievements with regards to your food choices. What do you think has helped you the most in the choices you have or are making?1 -
I am currently practicing mindful eating, and the satisfaction I get from it is amazing. The difficult part is at times I feel hungry and initially my response was not to eat but lately I have started eating healthy stuff. I don’t go hungry to bad and it is definitely helping. In my humble opinion, we are eating more than what we need the three course meal, you must eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you must finish your plate, and many more have contributed to the disaster.0
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I love the idea of mindful eating. Perhaps this orientation allows us to not just enjoy the qualities of the food itself, but the satisfying outcomes of healthy ingredients being utilized effectively by our amazing digestive equipment. I try and remind myself that each morsel of food I eat will either move me towards or away from good health. We don’t have to be zealots. Let’s go with just responsible, reasonable and honest.1
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