Liquid ketones

They will raise your ketone levels, which may help with some health issues.

I tried to edit last post but cannot. I'd like to add, the strip shows higher ketosis reading but do not know if actual either with and without exercise before hand (exercise usually will show higher ketosis on strip, reason may want to use blood meter). Also I hate the taste of water, except one called Fuji which is pricey but water feels sooooo soft and smooth, I take a few sips from a one pt bottle, then use a funnel to put a wee bit more than half scoop bhb and shake it up, heaven. Do I feel better on days I take a scoop or two versus days I do not - YES. Is there a relationship, dunno. We both use it, I usually fix her one of these bottles when she is struggling from chemo and it is like watching a flower perk up. So yes, I believe it helps. She is not aware of what the stuff is but loves the taste, if I give her some before food shopping, etc. she performs better than normal for that short stretch of shopping and she just thinks it is a flavor and has no correlation of the drink to going out and I notice she states she had a better outing so can rule out marketing hype impacting her feedback.

reachout3444 wrote: »

I tried to edit last post but cannot. I'd like to add, the strip shows higher ketosis reading but do not know if actual either with and without exercise before hand (exercise usually will show higher ketosis on strip, reason may want to use blood meter). Also I hate the taste of water, except one called Fuji which is pricey but water feels sooooo soft and smooth, I take a few sips from a one pt bottle, then use a funnel to put a wee bit more than half scoop bhb and shake it up, heaven. Do I feel better on days I take a scoop or two versus days I do not - YES. Is there a relationship, dunno. We both use it, I usually fix her one of these bottles when she is struggling from chemo and it is like watching a flower perk up. So yes, I believe it helps. She is not aware of what the stuff is but loves the taste, if I give her some before food shopping, etc. she performs better than normal for that short stretch of shopping and she just thinks it is a flavor and has no correlation of the drink to going out and I notice she states she had a better outing so can rule out marketing hype impacting her feedback.

Are....are you giving someone a product without their knowledge for the sake of a personal experiment?!

reachout3444 wrote: »

I tried to edit last post but cannot. I'd like to add, the strip shows higher ketosis reading but do not know if actual either with and without exercise before hand (exercise usually will show higher ketosis on strip, reason may want to use blood meter). Also I hate the taste of water, except one called Fuji which is pricey but water feels sooooo soft and smooth, I take a few sips from a one pt bottle, then use a funnel to put a wee bit more than half scoop bhb and shake it up, heaven. Do I feel better on days I take a scoop or two versus days I do not - YES. Is there a relationship, dunno. We both use it, I usually fix her one of these bottles when she is struggling from chemo and it is like watching a flower perk up. So yes, I believe it helps. She is not aware of what the stuff is but loves the taste, if I give her some before food shopping, etc. she performs better than normal for that short stretch of shopping and she just thinks it is a flavor and has no correlation of the drink to going out and I notice she states she had a better outing so can rule out marketing hype impacting her feedback.

The fact that you are giving a supplement to a chemo patient without her knowledge, and the fact that you think this supplement curbs appetite (and chemo patients often struggle to eat enough) is disturbing. Please please stop.

You mean, when someone is already probably undereating, since chemo curbs appetite, you think it's wise to give them something that will curb it even more? When they need their strength to deal with the chemo and everything else?

delsaj69 wrote: »

Wow. Some people have a really strong opinion on reachout3444 giving their loved one this supliment. As the mother of a child who had to go through chemotherapy, I would have tried/done anything that I thought might help them feel better and be able to function like a human being again. Perhaps until you are in this person's place watching a loved one struggle with cancer, one should keep their judgments to them selves.

Nope. My mother is currently going through chemo. I think it’s sick that this person is doing this. I trust my mother’s DOCTORS to know what is best for her because, you know, they go to school for it for years.

delsaj69 wrote: »

Wow. Some people have a really strong opinion on reachout3444 giving their loved one this supliment. As the mother of a child who had to go through chemotherapy, I would have tried/done anything that I thought might help them feel better and be able to function like a human being again. Perhaps until you are in this person's place watching a loved one struggle with cancer, one should keep their judgments to them selves.

Yeah, I was in that place with my mom and there is no way I would have slipped her anything without her consent, even if it was okayed by the doctor. Which, in this case, it was not. And the very last thing she needed was something to curb her appetite which was already nonexistent.

It's appalling.

kimny72 wrote: »

reachout3444 wrote: »

I tried to edit last post but cannot. I'd like to add, the strip shows higher ketosis reading but do not know if actual either with and without exercise before hand (exercise usually will show higher ketosis on strip, reason may want to use blood meter). Also I hate the taste of water, except one called Fuji which is pricey but water feels sooooo soft and smooth, I take a few sips from a one pt bottle, then use a funnel to put a wee bit more than half scoop bhb and shake it up, heaven. Do I feel better on days I take a scoop or two versus days I do not - YES. Is there a relationship, dunno. We both use it, I usually fix her one of these bottles when she is struggling from chemo and it is like watching a flower perk up. So yes, I believe it helps. She is not aware of what the stuff is but loves the taste, if I give her some before food shopping, etc. she performs better than normal for that short stretch of shopping and she just thinks it is a flavor and has no correlation of the drink to going out and I notice she states she had a better outing so can rule out marketing hype impacting her feedback.

The fact that you are giving a supplement to a chemo patient without her knowledge, and the fact that you think this supplement curbs appetite (and chemo patients often struggle to eat enough) is disturbing. Please please stop.

Not to mention that the treatment team should be involved in/aware of any supplements or complementary treatments being undertaken. The whole thing is ethically questionable, at best. I've seen so much over the years, I'm still shocked occassionally.

delsaj69 wrote: »

Wow. Some people have a really strong opinion on reachout3444 giving their loved one this supliment. As the mother of a child who had to go through chemotherapy, I would have tried/done anything that I thought might help them feel better and be able to function like a human being again. Perhaps until you are in this person's place watching a loved one struggle with cancer, one should keep their judgments to them selves.

I have that same strong opinon, saying that supplements should not be delivered without the care team's input . . . as a stage III cancer/chemotherapy survivor (and trained peer counselor for same), plus primary caregiver for a spouse who died from esophageal cancer, secondary caregiver for mother who died of metastatic breast cancer, and friend to many fellow breast cancer patients (survivors/nonsurvivors) who went through chemotherapy.

It's fine to work with the cancer patient's care team (ideally cancer center registered dietitian) to identify things the patient can eat or drink that will help them feel better, provide essential nutrition, and be compatible with their chemotherapy regimen. (In my understanding, some treatments are believed to be effective via oxidation, so megadosing anti-oxidants can be a Really Bad Plan. We're supposed to tell our treatment teams every single supplement we're taking.)

How the patient feels, sadly, is not the best guide: If it were, they wouldn't be using chemotherapy in the first place. But the benchmark is what works at putting the cancer in remission, ideally long-term remission, not how the patient feels en route.

I think we don't know whether reachout3444 is working with the care team on this, or not. If not, s/he should be. Period.