Probiotics

mylesadair
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Hey there,
I'm pretty new to the weight lose field and I've heard several people say that taking probiotics will help with weight loss. I'm hoping to be able to lose 10-20lbs before summer but I'm not sure what route I should take, and if there are supplements and specific exercises I should do.
Thanks!
I'm pretty new to the weight lose field and I've heard several people say that taking probiotics will help with weight loss. I'm hoping to be able to lose 10-20lbs before summer but I'm not sure what route I should take, and if there are supplements and specific exercises I should do.
Thanks!
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Supplements do not aid in weight loss. Generally speaking they're a waste of money and the time you spend trying all these different supplements that claim to help could be spent tracking your calories and actually creating results. Weight loss is very simple... no need to overcomplivate it. Put your stats into MFP, select .5 lb a week since you only have 10-20lbs to lose and eat what it tells you to.
As for exercise its also not needed but it is good for you. I would recommend strength training to maintain muscle as well, you'll likely be happier with your physique after losing weight that way.5 -
To lose weight, make sure you are consistently in a calorie deficit. Neither probiotics nor any other supplements or specific foods promote weight loss. If you want to exercise, do the exercises you enjoy and that help you meet other health and fitness goals.4
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Probiotics won't help you lose weight. Only less in that out can help with that.
What they may do is help with digestion, so your body is getting more out of the (hopefully healthy) food you're putting in.
I suffer from IBS and lactose intolerance and have found that taking a good probiotic and Lacteze (when needed) has really helped with bloating and generally feeling healthier.
For me this makes it easier to make healthy choices.1 -
I think it is a good idea to eat probiotic and prebiotic foods, to improve general health, but I don’t believe there is anything conclusive about weightloss as yet.
There have been some preliminary studies in mice where they did a fecal (poo) transplant from a thin mouse to a fat mouse, and the fat mouse got thin - as it’s colon was colonised by healthy bacteria from the thin mouse. There are some limited studies that suggest some strains of bacteria tend to be more common in thin people and others in fatter people (which might affect weight); however this could also be that the food people are eating encourages certain species to thrive. People who eat a lot of sugar (who are more likely to be fatter) will have different gut flora to those who don’t, and those who eat lots of prebiotic foods like cabbage and broccoli will (I believe) have a healthier gut.
Probiotic foods & drinks that are considered good for gut health are naturally fermented sauerkraut, pickles, yoghurt, kefir, kombucha, ginger beer, etc. Homemade is generally the way, as storebought versions are likely to have additives or have been treated differently to prolong shelf life.
From a health perspective: making changes in this space helped me kick reoccurring thrush after the medical approach kept failing me.6 -
I should add there have been some studies exploring different strains of probiotic bacteria for weightloss - these tend to be small studies (ie until a study has been replicated and done with a big enough group of people you can’t 100% trust it is correct). From what I can gather it tends to make more of a difference to women than to men.
A recent research paper evaluating all the studies that have been done so far about probiotics and weightloss concluded “ dietary agents for modulation of the gut microbiome are essential tools in the treatment of obesity and lead to significant reductions in BMI, body weight and fat mass when compared to placebo. Further studies are needed to determine the ideal formulation for supplementation and to identify specific populations of overweight patients who would benefit most from gut microbiome modulation, in addition to assessing the durability of this effect.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5867888/
And here is an article that is easier to read that gives a brief summary of key studies and mentions which strains might be most beneficial (with caveats). http://www.thegoodgut.org/do-probiotics-help-with-weight-loss/
Personally I am in favour of exploring this space, alongside calorie counting, exercise, healthy eating etc. It is likely to do more good than harm.4 -
mylesadair wrote: »Hey there,
I'm pretty new to the weight lose field and I've heard several people say that taking probiotics will help with weight loss. I'm hoping to be able to lose 10-20lbs before summer but I'm not sure what route I should take, and if there are supplements and specific exercises I should do.
Thanks!
Probiotics do not help with weight loss. Most people do not need to take them for any reason as recent studies have shown that they don't do anything and can actually make some people sick if they are sensitive to that particular bacteria. The exception is people with digestive problems or people who have taken a course of antibiotics. Probiotics can help repopulate the good gut flora after the antibiotics killed them.1 -
Use of probiotics are the same as the use of any food or vitamin - we all have different needs, and have to work out what works for us.
If someone were to randomly give a bunch of people an iron supplement, it would harm some, benefit some, and be useless for many... yet someone who is lacking in iron and is not absorbing enough from their diet (even if they are eating enough iron sources) will find a supplement necessary.
(And you can say the same of apples, or peanuts, or any substance! Some people will find it beneficial, some will find it harmful, and many will not notice any discernable difference!)
For example, my family tends towards anemia (obviously something in our genetics, because we eat more than the recommended iron and still tend towards anemia), so I consciously seek out more iron foods than the average person, sometimes take a multi-vitamin to get extra, or, on a doctor's recommendation after blood tests, might take a strong dedicated iron supplement. If a study comes out saying that many people don't need iron supplements, is that relevant to me and other people with anemia?
Giving a person who already has a healthy microbiome probiotics may be useless, or could even be the wrong mix of bacteria for them, but for other people it is beneficial. Only you know what your body is like, what you have been eating, etc. Many people in the modern world have had antibiotics wipe out their gut flora at some point, and have eaten some of the wrong kinds of foods (processed, highly refined, sugar, etc) which unhealthy bacteria flourish on, so it would be my guess that some of us (not all, but certainly some) would benefit from being a bit more mindful about prebiotic and probiotic foods.
Every day we are all consuming bacteria, and the question is whether you want to consciously decide what some of those bacteria are, and if you want to seek out some foods that have bacteria that is generally considered good for us. You still need to put it to the test if it works for you specifically. Some people love yoghurt, others can't handle dairy. Ditto for pickles, sauerkraut, kombucha, kimchi etc.
(Sidenote: beware of strangers offering generic advice. I think it odd if someone simultaneously claims that probiotics "don't do anything" but then also claims they can cause harm. They either do something, or don't, it can't be both. Bacteria plays an important role in our body; some strains are helpful to us, and some are not; the unhelpful strains tend to be the ones that dominate when we eat highly refined foods- it is when they dominate they become a problem - and if you suspect that your diet to date (or antibiotics) may have caused an imbalance, then it doesn't hurt to change what you're eating to help the beneficial bacteria out.)
P.S. If instead of asking "should I take probiotics" you had asked "is lacto fermented yoghurt, sauerkraut, pickles, okay for me to eat while losing weight" I doubt anyone would have jumped in with statements like "they don't do anything" "they are a waste of money" etc. And even if we are talking about probiotics in a pill; the first time I had them it was recommended by my doctor, after I had tried several rounds of the standard medical thrush treatment that had not worked, my doctor recommended a particular type & brand of probiotics that has been designed for this condition plus the consumption of more probiotic and prebiotic foods - and this worked where the standard medical treatment hadn't.
If you do want to have a probiotic "pill" maybe discuss with your doctor or a nutritionalist what would be best for you.4
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