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I say with this some trepidation, but in this instance - this might be a thread worth flagging for the safety of others who are reading and potentially getting ideas on following through such an idea.10
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manderson27 wrote: »I feel like there I need to clarifying my previous statement. I was simply stating what to expect during a prolonged fast. At no time do I advise just pushing through any warning signs your body gives that its time to resume eating - that is of course dangerous.
Starvation does not occur when there is fat for the body to use - this stage is never recommended. The body does burn some protein, a process of autophagy. This process go after damaged and bad cells first, so its a benefit.
Danger is not listening your body when it's telling you its time to eat, trying to extend a fast to reach a 'goal of x days,' or not drinking water, or trying to do plenty of cardio (as your body will not have the sugar to burn).
Fasting is a choice and one is expected to use common sense.
@manderson27, no, this would be day 6. However, I am an experienced faster. The longest I have gone for is 18 days and it was not dangerous in and of itself. It only becomes dangerous when one does dumb things.
I do believe people should be free to make their own choices and should have access to all relevant information to make an informed choice. If they don't know what to expect, they can't make informed choices or know what's normal or what's not. Hunger after the 3rd day is not normal and should be listened to.
Hope that clarifies.
I believe that depriving your body of nutrients for 18 days is a dumb thing to do. Your brain cannot use ketones in any prolonged way which means your cognitive abilities are compromised. Think slower reaction times when driving etc not good for us other road users. It is not about fat it is about nutrition/vitamins/minerals all those things your body needs to function in an optimal way.
I agree you can do what you like with your own body and as you do this a lot so no argument I can make will change your behaviour toward food. But the OP is not an experienced faster.
You replied to the OP by saying "Hello Evegenia1! Congrats on deciding to do the unthinkable in our modern thinking - going without food for a period of time. Once you get over day 3 the hunger pangs should vanish, but it gets easier every time you fast."
You have to understand that it is not only the OP who will read this. There are a lot of new people who lurk in the forums and they may take this as advice on how to lose weight without doing any research or having any experience of fasting. They may just see it as a fast way to lose weight this is not the kind of advice condoned by this website. I hope that by countering your post with some more reasonable and sensible views about food it might stop someone doing something that could potentially damage them.
There is no need to do extreme fasting for weightloss a reasonable calorie deficit and eating foods you enjoy is all that is needed.
Yes, I did say that. 'Every time' explicitly states that this is not one epic fasting marathon but rather something one must work up to.
I welcome your point about nutrients as it has not been touch on yet. Multivitamins are a good supplement to fasting.
However, chastising me about what someone might do is not productive and shuts down debate because then other people will not be inclined to contribute. The purpose of a forum is for many people to add their 2 cents in and debate. If one only ever read one post on one forum and never searched out anything else and decided to do things shotgun style, well then that individual is very unwise and we can't help them. I welcome opposing viewpoints as objections helps to fill in many blanks, such as your great point on vitamins and minerals. Threads with a lot of posts helps to get people thinking, which I believe is being achieved right now.10 -
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