Curious About Keto
dro6632
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I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
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to lose weight, you need to eat at a calorie deficit. simple as that.
Keto is great for those who fine fat filling and don't mind reducing carbs (quite a bit). because they find it filling, it's easier to eat at a calorie deficit. but it is jsut away of eating, many maintain or can even gain eating keto. there are some added benefits to a small number of health issues but weight loss is not one.
If you don't think keto is a way of eating you could do forever i'd not recommend, best to learn good habits with a way of eating you're likely to martian for life.26 -
EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
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Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
No, SOME people find fat filling, not everyone does.35 -
Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
@Rea20021989
No I don't find high fat foods filling, I happen to find starchy carbs the most filling.
Give me delicious high fat foods like nuts and cheese and I'm a bottomless pit.
It's often not even at a macro level but individual foods that people find filling, if you check out lists of top 10 most satiating foods you will find examples of high carb, high protein and high fat foods.
Be very cautious about using the term "everyone" - dietary choices are very varied and personal.
By the way you misunderstand how your body fuels itself, it's not carbs and then fat - it's both together. You, me and our completely different ways of eating both use our body fat reserves when we are in a calorie deficit as that is all that is required. The proportion of carbs and fat being used is primarily determined by your activity/exercise level at any particular time. A high carb eater like me is still predominately using fat for fuel unless exercising at a reasonable intensity, HR about 130bpm for me when tested in a sports science lab.22 -
OP - suggest checking out Lyle McDonald as a good source of information about the ketogenic diet.
As it's become one of the current diet fashions there are some seriously awful sources of information that seem to have zero knowledge of human physiology but very good at convincing sales pitches.
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I do keto and i no longer adhere to calorie limit i eat to satiety. And its working well for me16
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I think the key is that you say dietary 'choices', which is the key phrase here. If you choose to eat low carb and adapt to that, you will find fat satiating after a period of time. If you choose to eat fats and carbbs at the same time, you don't find them satiating in the same way; I did it for years and was the exact same, bottomless pit.
Starchy carbs are a man made genetic mutation to 'feed' the masses; they're not natural. I'm not a fanatic about this - i LIKE carbs as much as the next person, i just can't eat them - but when you actually think about the fact that keto is how our ancestors ate, for thousands of years, before the masses of increase in certain disease (read mutations like cancer etc) from the highly processed foods we now shovel into ourselves like bread and pasta, and it makes a lot of sense that it is a more healthy and natural way of eating. Aside from that is the sugars/carbs' negative impact upon the immune system, too.
A high carb eater burns sugars before they burn fat; it's the fast energy release. it's what the body is programmed to do. When the carb fuel (sugars) run out, you will then burn fat. But it does take your body time to burn through the carbs you're eating and then convert, rather than sticking with the same source. Otherwise people wouldn't have 'sugar highs' and energy crashes etc. With keeping to fats as main fuel, there's no switching back and forth.
I understand there's no one size fits all. But I would imagine if you gave your body time to transition to burning fats rather than sugars you would feel just as satiated. My personal choice is not to have to feel hunger to eat at a calorie deficit, to never need to 'carb up' before a workout and have the energy to burn through 700-1100 calories or feel tired after it (bar muscle aches until i replenish electrolytes) etc.
I dieted for years 'at a calorie deficit', ensuring that i did at least a 5k walk each day (as a power walk, not 'over the day') and only managed to lose about 4 stone over a year. I was always tired, always miserably hungry, and it was horrible. I do get that it doesn't fit everyone, but I can't recommend it enough after it's reversed being pre-diabetic, pre-hypertension, and half my body weight. I've always struggled with weight - at age 10 i went into adult size clothing at a size 12. I'm now a size 10 for the first time in my life at 30. I'm just saying there's alternatives out there for people who miserably struggled like I did, you just have to give them a chance. You might not find it's your preferred way, but it might certainly be life changing for others.
I'd recommend watching the documentary 'The Magic Pill'; it's fairly dull but enlightening (and yes, I know that's quite an oxymoron!) at the same time. Not looking to pick a fight or say that my way is the only way here, just saying what you're saying isn't necessarily true for everyone either.
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No one can tell you what works for you. You have to discover that for yourself. Being able to sustain a calorie deficit is the only way weight is lost. For losing, and maintaining weight loss, it is completely whatever works for each of us. Success rate for keeping the weight we have lost off for more than five years is less than 20%. That’s why there are always new and improved ways to lose weight coming up. But, losing weight is always about eating less calories than your body burns, no matter which weight loss diet you choose. ALWAYS.13
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Rea20021989 wrote: »I think the key is that you say dietary 'choices', which is the key phrase here. If you choose to eat low carb and adapt to that, you will find fat satiating after a period of time. If you choose to eat fats and carbbs at the same time, you don't find them satiating in the same way; I did it for years and was the exact same, bottomless pit.
Starchy carbs are a man made genetic mutation to 'feed' the masses; they're not natural. I'm not a fanatic about this - i LIKE carbs as much as the next person, i just can't eat them - but when you actually think about the fact that keto is how our ancestors ate, for thousands of years, before the masses of increase in certain disease (read mutations like cancer etc) from the highly processed foods we now shovel into ourselves like bread and pasta, and it makes a lot of sense that it is a more healthy and natural way of eating. Aside from that is the sugars/carbs' negative impact upon the immune system, too.
A high carb eater burns sugars before they burn fat; it's the fast energy release. it's what the body is programmed to do. When the carb fuel (sugars) run out, you will then burn fat. But it does take your body time to burn through the carbs you're eating and then convert, rather than sticking with the same source. Otherwise people wouldn't have 'sugar highs' and energy crashes etc. With keeping to fats as main fuel, there's no switching back and forth.
I understand there's no one size fits all. But I would imagine if you gave your body time to transition to burning fats rather than sugars you would feel just as satiated. My personal choice is not to have to feel hunger to eat at a calorie deficit, to never need to 'carb up' before a workout and have the energy to burn through 700-1100 calories or feel tired after it (bar muscle aches until i replenish electrolytes) etc.
I dieted for years 'at a calorie deficit', ensuring that i did at least a 5k walk each day (as a power walk, not 'over the day') and only managed to lose about 4 stone over a year. I was always tired, always miserably hungry, and it was horrible. I do get that it doesn't fit everyone, but I can't recommend it enough after it's reversed being pre-diabetic, pre-hypertension, and half my body weight. I've always struggled with weight - at age 10 i went into adult size clothing at a size 12. I'm now a size 10 for the first time in my life at 30. I'm just saying there's alternatives out there for people who miserably struggled like I did, you just have to give them a chance. You might not find it's your preferred way, but it might certainly be life changing for others.
I'd recommend watching the documentary 'The Magic Pill'; it's fairly dull but enlightening (and yes, I know that's quite an oxymoron!) at the same time. Not looking to pick a fight or say that my way is the only way here, just saying what you're saying isn't necessarily true for everyone either.
You clearly don't actually understand what starchy carbs are if you think they are all man made.
You also don't have a working grasp of human physiology, no carbs and fat are not used sequentially. That is easily proven and well known. When you are hooked up to a gas analyser it shows very clearly what proportion of fat and carbs are being used at any one time.
If you do actually manage to burn through all your glycogen reserves you will be barely able to function - ever seen a marathon runner "hitting the wall" or a cyclist "bonking"? Even on a ketogenic diet you will still preserve some glycogen.
I've never had a sugar high or an energy crash through types of food eaten - another generalisation.
I don't need to "carb up" before exercise, I frequently cycle 2hrs without eating and only drinking water.
You don't need to transition to burning fat - it's what you have been doing since you were born.
The Magic Pill isn't a documentary.
PS - I'm not anti-keto at all, it's a perfectly valid choice for some and I'm happy we both found different paths to success. I am anti-misinformation though.48 -
Like others have said, it is simply one method of maintaining a calorie deficit. For some it works wonderfully as they find themselves full eating high fat/moderate protein. There is no harm in giving it a shot. If it works for you that is great, and if it doesn't that is fine too because you can find other ways of maintaining a calorie deficit that works for you.
I tried the ketogenic diet and was miserable on it, I craved carbs too much and that craving never faded. I felt too restricted and when that happens I tend to give up because I don't want to live life like that.17 -
Rea20021989 wrote: »I think the key is that you say dietary 'choices', which is the key phrase here. If you choose to eat low carb and adapt to that, you will find fat satiating after a period of time. If you choose to eat fats and carbbs at the same time, you don't find them satiating in the same way; I did it for years and was the exact same, bottomless pit.
Starchy carbs are a man made genetic mutation to 'feed' the masses; they're not natural. I'm not a fanatic about this - i LIKE carbs as much as the next person, i just can't eat them - but when you actually think about the fact that keto is how our ancestors ate, for thousands of years, before the masses of increase in certain disease (read mutations like cancer etc) from the highly processed foods we now shovel into ourselves like bread and pasta, and it makes a lot of sense that it is a more healthy and natural way of eating. Aside from that is the sugars/carbs' negative impact upon the immune system, too.
A high carb eater burns sugars before they burn fat; it's the fast energy release. it's what the body is programmed to do. When the carb fuel (sugars) run out, you will then burn fat. But it does take your body time to burn through the carbs you're eating and then convert, rather than sticking with the same source. Otherwise people wouldn't have 'sugar highs' and energy crashes etc. With keeping to fats as main fuel, there's no switching back and forth.
I understand there's no one size fits all. But I would imagine if you gave your body time to transition to burning fats rather than sugars you would feel just as satiated. My personal choice is not to have to feel hunger to eat at a calorie deficit, to never need to 'carb up' before a workout and have the energy to burn through 700-1100 calories or feel tired after it (bar muscle aches until i replenish electrolytes) etc.
I dieted for years 'at a calorie deficit', ensuring that i did at least a 5k walk each day (as a power walk, not 'over the day') and only managed to lose about 4 stone over a year. I was always tired, always miserably hungry, and it was horrible. I do get that it doesn't fit everyone, but I can't recommend it enough after it's reversed being pre-diabetic, pre-hypertension, and half my body weight. I've always struggled with weight - at age 10 i went into adult size clothing at a size 12. I'm now a size 10 for the first time in my life at 30. I'm just saying there's alternatives out there for people who miserably struggled like I did, you just have to give them a chance. You might not find it's your preferred way, but it might certainly be life changing for others.
I'd recommend watching the documentary 'The Magic Pill'; it's fairly dull but enlightening (and yes, I know that's quite an oxymoron!) at the same time. Not looking to pick a fight or say that my way is the only way here, just saying what you're saying isn't necessarily true for everyone either.
You clearly don't actually understand what starchy carbs are if you think they are all man made.
You also don't have a working grasp of human physiology, no carbs and fat are not used sequentially. That is easily proven and well known. When you are hooked up to a gas analyser it shows very clearly what proportion of fat and carbs are being used at any one time.
If you do actually manage to burn through all your glycogen reserves you will be barely able to function - ever seen a marathon runner "hitting the wall" or a cyclist "bonking"? Even on a ketogenic diet you will still preserve some glycogen.
I've never had a sugar high or an energy crash through types of food eaten - another generalisation.
I don't need to "carb up" before exercise, I frequently cycle 2hrs without eating and only drinking water.
You don't need to transition to burning fat - it's what you have been doing since you were born.
The Magic Pill isn't a documentary.
PS - I'm not anti-keto at all, it's a perfectly valid choice for some and I'm happy we both found different paths to success. I am anti-misinformation though.
This 1000%.16 -
Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Except this isn't true. And when keto advocates make false claims like this it just furthers the perception that keto is bunk.
I eat a higher carb, low fat diet (modeling after DASH/BlueZones). Carbs are what make me feel full, for longer. I would never make a claim though that EVERYONE finds carbs filling, because satiety levels as it relates to macros ratios are a very individual thing.16 -
Rea20021989 wrote: »I think the key is that you say dietary 'choices', which is the key phrase here. If you choose to eat low carb and adapt to that, you will find fat satiating after a period of time. If you choose to eat fats and carbbs at the same time, you don't find them satiating in the same way; I did it for years and was the exact same, bottomless pit.
Starchy carbs are a man made genetic mutation to 'feed' the masses; they're not natural. I'm not a fanatic about this - i LIKE carbs as much as the next person, i just can't eat them - but when you actually think about the fact that keto is how our ancestors ate, for thousands of years, before the masses of increase in certain disease (read mutations like cancer etc) from the highly processed foods we now shovel into ourselves like bread and pasta, and it makes a lot of sense that it is a more healthy and natural way of eating. Aside from that is the sugars/carbs' negative impact upon the immune system, too.
A high carb eater burns sugars before they burn fat; it's the fast energy release. it's what the body is programmed to do. When the carb fuel (sugars) run out, you will then burn fat. But it does take your body time to burn through the carbs you're eating and then convert, rather than sticking with the same source. Otherwise people wouldn't have 'sugar highs' and energy crashes etc. With keeping to fats as main fuel, there's no switching back and forth.
I understand there's no one size fits all. But I would imagine if you gave your body time to transition to burning fats rather than sugars you would feel just as satiated. My personal choice is not to have to feel hunger to eat at a calorie deficit, to never need to 'carb up' before a workout and have the energy to burn through 700-1100 calories or feel tired after it (bar muscle aches until i replenish electrolytes) etc.
I dieted for years 'at a calorie deficit', ensuring that i did at least a 5k walk each day (as a power walk, not 'over the day') and only managed to lose about 4 stone over a year. I was always tired, always miserably hungry, and it was horrible. I do get that it doesn't fit everyone, but I can't recommend it enough after it's reversed being pre-diabetic, pre-hypertension, and half my body weight. I've always struggled with weight - at age 10 i went into adult size clothing at a size 12. I'm now a size 10 for the first time in my life at 30. I'm just saying there's alternatives out there for people who miserably struggled like I did, you just have to give them a chance. You might not find it's your preferred way, but it might certainly be life changing for others.
I'd recommend watching the documentary 'The Magic Pill'; it's fairly dull but enlightening (and yes, I know that's quite an oxymoron!) at the same time. Not looking to pick a fight or say that my way is the only way here, just saying what you're saying isn't necessarily true for everyone either.
I lost a lot of weight, reversed the progression of prediabetes and improved all my other health markers as well-all while eating a high carb diet. Now, 6 years into maintenance I wear a size 4 jeans and have a BMI of 21.5-I'm also 40 years old and have had 3 full term pregnancies. In a family full of type two diabetics and overweight/obese people, I'm the only one who's successfully maintaining and the only one who's normalized glucose numbers. And I've done all of this while eating 200+ carbs a day.
It's great that you've found a method that makes it easier for you to keep your calorie intake where it needs to be for your weight management goals. But, when you make universal claims like you have, it completely negates your credibility.
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This reply is for the OP. If you are thinking of doing Keto because you are expecting to lose lots of weight fast then this may not be the right choice for you. If you are thinking of doing it for health reasons or because this style of eating appeals to you then give it a try. I decided to try it because I have been having trouble with high blood pressure and water retention that my meds weren't handling and thought maybe it would help. I'm actually in maintenance. Since I have no gall bladder I got sick. I even used bile salts but the diarrhea was brutal. I lost 3 pounds in less than a week and gained it right back when I went back to low calorie. Just remember that part of the weight loss journey is learning a new way of eating for life. If you can't give up carbs permanently then you won't learn anything at all and old habits will cause you to regain what you lose.11
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You can give it a try and see if you enjoy it and find it easy. I personally didn't enjoy it, was always hungry (starchy carbs are filling to me so I felt hungry without it), and ended up gaining weight because I was overeating. Some people have the opposite experience and feel less hungry, and some people don't experience any difference in hunger. Try it and see if it's a good fit.
When I found a good fit for me (a higher carb diet, 200-300 grams of carbs per day) I was able to lose more than 100 pounds. I wouldn't have lost them if I stubbornly tried to stick to keto because it's not sustainable for me. The best weight loss diet is the diet that helps you achieve a calory deficit long enough and consistently enough to lose weight. The type of diet is personal preference, so see what feels easiest to you and stick with it.12 -
I recently tried it out. While I don't think its sustainable for myself, I can note a few positives. I dropped a good 12-15 lbs the first few weeks. (I have kept it off) My body felt better. (I've been prone to inflammation in my joints.) My gut health was much better. It also got me used to looking for meal options that aren't complex carb loaded. I stopped because I just don't have the time to prep plan and try new keto recipes constantly. However, I find it much easier to still maintain a lower carb diet. It was a jump start to help train myself to eat differently than I was. It also helped me get off the sugar. I have a major sweet tooth so that was a big deal.5
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try https://www.ketogenicforums.com/ to read all about keto from people who are doing it. And like others said it may not work for you but you wont know until you try.2
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You will likely hear great things about any number of diets, depending on who you talk to/what sources you read.
You can lose 70 lbs without doing keto, some like keto, some struggle with other ways of eating and find that keto is helpful, whereas others dislike keto when they try it, or find it not a satisfying way to eat.
Some say it controls hunger, but I found eating a deficit on a healthy diet with moderate carbs (or even with the MFP default level at times) never left me hungry.
I tried it for a period of time (I was already at maintenance, lost 90 lbs not doing keto), and didn't hate it, but did not observe any benefits for me, and I missed fruit, tubers, beans and lentils, among other foods, disliked having to stress about going over my carbs even from non starchy veg (I like to eat a lot of non starchy veg and a good variety), and felt like it was forcing me to rely more on animal products/meat for my protein than I prefer.
I thought my pre keto diet was probably healthier (which is not to say that you can't do keto in a healthy way, and I did), and I had 0 benefits.
But it wasn't hard to do and I didn't feel bad doing it.7 -
Rea20021989 wrote: »I think the key is that you say dietary 'choices', which is the key phrase here. If you choose to eat low carb and adapt to that, you will find fat satiating after a period of time. If you choose to eat fats and carbbs at the same time, you don't find them satiating in the same way; I did it for years and was the exact same, bottomless pit.
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I low carbed for ten years. I can say with assurance that was enough time to adapt.
I did lose weight, but the diet wasn't sufficiently satiating to get me lower than 150 pounds. That is still 20 pounds overweight for me.
After a point, I actually started gaining weight back, because no, fat was not filling for me at all.
It still isn't. I am satiated by a mix of fiber, protein, and starch. I eat just enough fat for hormone and digestive health.
Satiety is something that really, really varies on an individual basis.
To the original poster, because satiety is individual, keto may or may not be a good fit for you. It still works like any other diet works, by limiting calories. Some people find it easier to stick to that calorie limit when eating keto because they are so satiated by fat.7 -
Not everyone finds fat filling.
If you like that way of eating and initial water weight loss is important to you, then go for it.
I love eating plants way too much to do keto. I am a big fruit eater.5 -
I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.12 -
I just posted this in another thread but it seems appropriate here. I'd advise anyone getting involved in Keto to do your research. Dr. Boz has plenty of shorter YT videos on Keto and she runs her clinic based on keto as a go to therapy for many of her patients. The YT channel Low Carb Down Under has a series of lectures from physicians, researchers and other lecturers if you want to get into some of the nitty gritty of the science.
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I turned to Keto not to lose weight but as a way of eliminating a lot of different foods from my diet to find a way to control my growing arthritic inflammation. I quit dairy at the same time. It worked so well I almost can't believe it. I was at the point last fall where I thought I'd have to retire early. My hip hurt, my knee hurt, my hands hurt every day and then it went into my lower back. I'm self employed and do a lot of heavy lifting and my work is physically demanding. You can't do it with a bad back. Going keto I did lose 10 lbs without trying but the pain subsided 75% in 2 weeks and is now at -90% and I can finally get back to the gym and being more active after a couple of years of not doing so. The pain reduction alone was enough to make it worthwhile but here are some other benefits I found in no particular order:
1. Appetite control. I actually have a difficult time many days eating enough to maintain my weight. I just don't feel hungry for hours on end and when I do eat I feel full fairly quickly because of the high fat content and the satiety it gives. If I had to lose more weight it would be a piece of cake because I'd have no problem maintaining a 500 calorie deficit without even trying.
2. Mental alertness and constant energy. I have the same energy level all day. I'm going to the gym before work for the first time in my life and even at 57 I'm still full of energy all day long. I'm already up to an hour and a half at the gym and energy levels are constant during my workout even though I'm working out fasted for now.
3. Bowel movements are smaller, smoother and easier.
I avoided the "Keto flu" by salting my food more and eating avocadoes just about every day for potassium and because I like them. If I'm totally honest, even though I was a lifelong volume eater, I am enjoying eating smaller portions of fatty meals and treats far more than when I ate more food.7 -
JohnnyPenso wrote: »I just posted this in another thread but it seems appropriate here. I'd advise anyone getting involved in Keto to do your research. Dr. Boz has plenty of shorter YT videos on Keto and she runs her clinic based on keto as a go to therapy for many of her patients. The YT channel Low Carb Down Under has a series of lectures from physicians, researchers and other lecturers if you want to get into some of the nitty gritty of the science.
Repost:
I turned to Keto not to lose weight but as a way of eliminating a lot of different foods from my diet to find a way to control my growing arthritic inflammation. I quit dairy at the same time. It worked so well I almost can't believe it. I was at the point last fall where I thought I'd have to retire early. My hip hurt, my knee hurt, my hands hurt every day and then it went into my lower back. I'm self employed and do a lot of heavy lifting and my work is physically demanding. You can't do it with a bad back. Going keto I did lose 10 lbs without trying but the pain subsided 75% in 2 weeks and is now at -90% and I can finally get back to the gym and being more active after a couple of years of not doing so. The pain reduction alone was enough to make it worthwhile but here are some other benefits I found in no particular order:
1. Appetite control. I actually have a difficult time many days eating enough to maintain my weight. I just don't feel hungry for hours on end and when I do eat I feel full fairly quickly because of the high fat content and the satiety it gives. If I had to lose more weight it would be a piece of cake because I'd have no problem maintaining a 500 calorie deficit without even trying.
2. Mental alertness and constant energy. I have the same energy level all day. I'm going to the gym before work for the first time in my life and even at 57 I'm still full of energy all day long. I'm already up to an hour and a half at the gym and energy levels are constant during my workout even though I'm working out fasted for now.
3. Bowel movements are smaller, smoother and easier.
I avoided the "Keto flu" by salting my food more and eating avocadoes just about every day for potassium and because I like them. If I'm totally honest, even though I was a lifelong volume eater, I am enjoying eating smaller portions of fatty meals and treats far more than when I ate more food.
Hi there, my bestfriend has been observing my weight loss on your same diet and I agree with you 💯 on all points you numbered. She's starting to ask more and more questions and I'm happy to finally get to talk about my new lifestyle but today she asked me how I motivated my self to stop eating carbs and to stick with it at the beginning. I could only tell her a few of my family members were on it so that's how I learned about it and then for a month or two I became voracious for keto information. I read a ton of articles, success stories, simple tips, and I watched hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos on the same things. Then one day I had some eggs and bacon for breakfast and another friend of mine texted me and said we should do the keto diet together and Viola!! Then I just took one day at a time while clinging to the internet.
So my question to you is; what helped motivate you while so many others quit after a week or two?0 -
My husband has been on the keto diet for a while, and he has definitely lost weight pretty effortlessly. But, I also think it is easier for him to stick to it because someone cooks for him (that would be me lol). You should plan on cooking a lot!! It is hard to find prepared meals and snacks. In the beginning, it seems like there are so many choices...but he has gotten tired of many things after being on it for a couple of months. Other negatives I have seen are- he pees all of the time (sorry TMI) and he really cannot drink alcohol anymore because it seems to mess with his stomach (this was never an issue before so we assume it is from keto). That being said, he has lost a lot of weight and does not count calories. His hunger has significantly decreased as well. Just my honest observations, hope it helps!0
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I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
If the bolded is what sold you, then you're basing your decision on misinformation. It's one thing to choose your diet because it's easy and satisfying, it's another to fall for misinformation. The kind of fuel you burn is irrelevant for weight loss. You only burn body fat reserves if you are in a calorie deficit regardless of your glycogen levels. It's true that you burn more of the fat you eat as fuel on keto (just like you burn more of the carbs you eat on a higher carb diet), but it makes little difference for weight loss.20 -
I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
That actually happens whenever you have a deficit. (That is, you always use fat for fuel to some extent, and anyone with a deficit will eat into fat reserves, whereas you won't do that on keto without a deficit.)
Telling people they should do keto for this reason is therefore inaccurate.
I agree that if you personally find it easier or more satisfying that other ways of eating, that's a good reason.
[Edit: or what amusedmonkey said!]14 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
If the bolded is what sold you, then you're basing your decision on misinformation. It's one thing to choose your diet because it's easy and satisfying, it's another to fall for misinformation. The kind of fuel you burn is irrelevant for weight loss. You only burn body fat reserves if you are in a calorie deficit regardless of your glycogen levels. It's true that you burn more of the fat you eat as fuel on keto (just like you burn more of the carbs you eat on a higher carb diet), but it makes little difference for weight loss.I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
That actually happens whenever you have a deficit. (That is, you always use fat for fuel to some extent, and anyone with a deficit will eat into fat reserves, whereas you won't do that on keto without a deficit.)
Telling people they should do keto for this reason is therefore inaccurate.
I agree that if you personally find it easier or more satisfying that other ways of eating, that's a good reason.
[Edit: or what amusedmonkey said!]
I don’t count calories, so yeah that info is accurate for me.14 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
If the bolded is what sold you, then you're basing your decision on misinformation. It's one thing to choose your diet because it's easy and satisfying, it's another to fall for misinformation. The kind of fuel you burn is irrelevant for weight loss. You only burn body fat reserves if you are in a calorie deficit regardless of your glycogen levels. It's true that you burn more of the fat you eat as fuel on keto (just like you burn more of the carbs you eat on a higher carb diet), but it makes little difference for weight loss.I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
That actually happens whenever you have a deficit. (That is, you always use fat for fuel to some extent, and anyone with a deficit will eat into fat reserves, whereas you won't do that on keto without a deficit.)
Telling people they should do keto for this reason is therefore inaccurate.
I agree that if you personally find it easier or more satisfying that other ways of eating, that's a good reason.
[Edit: or what amusedmonkey said!]
I don’t count calories, so yeah that info is accurate for me.
It doesn't matter if you count calories or not. Like it was said, if the diet results in a deficit (with or without counting calories), you lose weight. It looks like this is a good fit for you because you, as an individual, eat less on it, but not for the reasons you think. It's not somehow uniquely better at burning stored fat than any other diet with the same caloric intake.18 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
If the bolded is what sold you, then you're basing your decision on misinformation. It's one thing to choose your diet because it's easy and satisfying, it's another to fall for misinformation. The kind of fuel you burn is irrelevant for weight loss. You only burn body fat reserves if you are in a calorie deficit regardless of your glycogen levels. It's true that you burn more of the fat you eat as fuel on keto (just like you burn more of the carbs you eat on a higher carb diet), but it makes little difference for weight loss.I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
That actually happens whenever you have a deficit. (That is, you always use fat for fuel to some extent, and anyone with a deficit will eat into fat reserves, whereas you won't do that on keto without a deficit.)
Telling people they should do keto for this reason is therefore inaccurate.
I agree that if you personally find it easier or more satisfying that other ways of eating, that's a good reason.
[Edit: or what amusedmonkey said!]
I don’t count calories, so yeah that info is accurate for me.
You don't count calories but your body still does. If you are losing weight it is because you are eating less than you are burning, regardless of the type of food you eat. The reason why you are not counting calories is that you find fat to be very feeling so would struggle to overeat. It is great that you have found a method of weight loss that works well for you and I wish you the best for continued success in the future.14 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
If the bolded is what sold you, then you're basing your decision on misinformation. It's one thing to choose your diet because it's easy and satisfying, it's another to fall for misinformation. The kind of fuel you burn is irrelevant for weight loss. You only burn body fat reserves if you are in a calorie deficit regardless of your glycogen levels. It's true that you burn more of the fat you eat as fuel on keto (just like you burn more of the carbs you eat on a higher carb diet), but it makes little difference for weight loss.I want to lose 70lbs and I've heard great things about the Keto Diet. Has anyone tried it? Results?
I’m liking it and finding it really easy and satisfying.Rea20021989 wrote: »EVERYONE finds fat filling; it's how keto works. Once you reduce your carbs, your body starts burning fat rather than carbs (glycogen) for fuel, and it eats into the fat reserves in your body. There's a period of about a week or two, while your body transitions, where you can be tired, crabby, headachey etc. but after that you experience amazing mental clarity, energy, lack of appetite etc.
When i ate carbs i was a monster. a 24 stone monster with no off switch - i was constantly eating, constantly craving sugar, always tired, hangry (angry through hunger) and a hormonal mess. Simply 'eating at a calorie deficit' didn't work for me because I was always hungry, craving, constantly thinking about food, and miserable.
I've been keto for 1 year in April, and I've lost half my body weight. I went from being 20 stone to being 11.5 stone (where i've plateaued and evened out for the last 4 months or so) since April last year. I'm no longer hungry, I eat one meal a day and I'm satiated, I still eat out, I still drink alcohol, and I now go to the gym 5 times a week for 1-2 hours and work out hard completely fasted. My mental health is much better, the amount of sleep i require is less and i feel more rested for it, and I'm generally much happy. It's not limiting, it's different. It's a way of life, not a diet, and once you experience it and get used to it, I doubt you'd WANT to go back
Good luck (and feel free to message me or whatnot if you want any more info)
Keto is amazing.
Bolded is what sold me.
That actually happens whenever you have a deficit. (That is, you always use fat for fuel to some extent, and anyone with a deficit will eat into fat reserves, whereas you won't do that on keto without a deficit.)
Telling people they should do keto for this reason is therefore inaccurate.
I agree that if you personally find it easier or more satisfying that other ways of eating, that's a good reason.
[Edit: or what amusedmonkey said!]
I don’t count calories, so yeah that info is accurate for me.
You may not count calories, but you are losing weight because you are consuming less calories than your body burns. I don’t know much about Keto, but by telling you what, and how much to eat, someone figured it out for you. The ONLY way you lose weight is by eating/drinking less calories than your body burns.8
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