Net or total calories
Yakker04
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Is it net or total calories you go by
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Net if you use MFP as designed0
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Net ... although I tend to stay a bit under to account for logging errors... particular over-stated exercise calories.1
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Net, as you were told several times in the last thread you started.9
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If you don't believe us, how about this:
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
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People who are using this site the way it is intended to be used (like stated above in that Help Article) use Net Calories. That includes exercise calories. Some people are using a different system based on their TDEE.
Here, from the Sticky "Most Helpful Posts"
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10503681/exercise-calories-do-i-eat-these-a-video-explanation/p1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67USKg3w_E4 3 -
If you're using MFP as designed it is net...a lot of people are ignorant as to how MFP works because they don't read the stickies or anything. Also, another clue would be the word GOAL.3 -
cmriverside wrote: »If you don't believe us, how about this:
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate one of those nutritionist I lost 47 kg doing his program and there are people on here saying same thing. Yet there are people on here saying opposite so who to believe. I think the nutritionist knows what he's talking about as my weight loss is proof of that. I get confused when I get different answers
WATCH that three minute video and he explains.
...and actually READ that Help link...2 -
cmriverside wrote: »If you don't believe us, how about this:
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate one of those nutritionist I lost 47 kg doing his program and there are people on here saying same thing. Yet there are people on here saying opposite so who to believe. I think the nutritionist knows what he's talking about as my weight loss is proof of that. I get confused when I get different answers
As you've been told before, there are more accurate ways to determine your energy expenditure than just relying on the database.
Look at it this way...I get a calorie goal of 2000 calories to lose 1 Lb per week if I'm using MFP. This Saturday I will be going on a 30+ mile group ride. I know from experience that I will burn around 1,000 calories on that ride. If I didn't account for that, my net intake would only be 1,000 calories...which would basically be equivalent to me only eating 1,000 calories and no grown male has any business doing that.
Does your nutritionist understand how MFP works. Does you nutritionist understand that MFP isn't a TDEE calculator?3 -
MFP has an option that lets you not show your exercise calories in your food goal, so I think it is also designed for people to use it that way. If you do not eat back your exercise calories, you might lose weight at a faster pace than if you do, but you might also feel tired or under-nourished. I also have received medical advice to not eat back the exercise calories, but honestly I just go by how I feel. If my body tells me I need them, I eat them. Most days I feel perfectly fine not eating them back, but that doesn't mean i'm right. I don't think you are ever going to get a 100% consensus from the world which way you should go. You've stated you trust your nutritionist, and you've lost weight successfully, so it sounds like you just need to keep learning what works for you and making sure you remain healthy.3
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Well, you're not going to get exact numbers for exercise - and for some people they ARE accurate. For some they aren't.
If you are sold on your Nutritionist, do it his way. ::shrug:: If it stops working, re-evaluate. If you're just doing moderate exercise a few times per week it doesn't really matter that much, just a couple hundred calories anyway.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »If you don't believe us, how about this:
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate one of those nutritionist I lost 47 kg doing his program and there are people on here saying same thing. Yet there are people on here saying opposite so who to believe. I think the nutritionist knows what he's talking about as my weight loss is proof of that. I get confused when I get different answers
No it's proof that you ate in a calorie deficit for a long period of time - that's the only thing it proves.
We have been round and round this issue several times. There's no new information beyond what you have already been told. You need to shake off this analysis paralysis and just choose one method or another.
My opinion is that your nutritionists are completely clueless, they recommend people to use this tool but, like you, seem to struggle to understand the very simple concept behind a base daily goal that excludes exercise.
Is it not obvious that on a day with exercise you are burning more than a day when you do no exercise?8 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »If you don't believe us, how about this:
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate one of those nutritionist I lost 47 kg doing his program and there are people on here saying same thing. Yet there are people on here saying opposite so who to believe. I think the nutritionist knows what he's talking about as my weight loss is proof of that. I get confused when I get different answers
As you've been told before, there are more accurate ways to determine your energy expenditure than just relying on the database.
Look at it this way...I get a calorie goal of 2000 calories to lose 1 Lb per week if I'm using MFP. This Saturday I will be going on a 30+ mile group ride. I know from experience that I will burn around 1,000 calories on that ride. If I didn't account for that, my net intake would only be 1,000 calories...which would basically be equivalent to me only eating 1,000 calories and no grown male has any business doing that.
Does your nutritionist understand how MFP works. Does you nutritionist understand that MFP isn't a TDEE calculator?
Of course he does he told me to use mfp after I had finished his program as it's the best one but the extra calories are inaccurate
So none is more accurate?
I've never relied on the MFP database for my calorie burns from exercise...like I said, there are more accurate ways of determining this. What kind of exercise are you doing? The longer duration or more intense your exercise is, the more important it is to fuel that activity...failure to do so limits fitness gains and impedes recovery and increases the risk of injury. Fitness is something that requires fuel...it makes zero sense not to fuel your fitness.4 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Stop asking for help if you're not going to listen to people who've been here forever and successfully used this tool. I lost 40 Lbs using MFP as designed..I've maintained that for 6 years...but yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to MFP.
I lost 103 pounds 7 months ago which I've maintained without this app. I came on here after getting advice to use it but like I said I'm getting conflicting answers
In order to maintain your weight: If you're using MFP's calorie numbers then you would have to eat exercise calories. Otherwise, you're always going to be in a deficit and losing. Exercise calculators are estimates, they're off for some, right for others. Zero would definitely be wrong though. You can only go off your real life data and adjust as needed.1 -
Like I said last time, I tend to eat back around 50% of exercise calories in case it's over estimating. But if I'm really hungry I eat the rest. Some days I'm less hungry, some days I'm over. The average evens out and I've maintained since October.
Experiment and use the scale to determine what ratio is right for you. And perhaps stop making several threads with the same question if you don't like the answers.2 -
I eat back all my exercise calories. I've been maintaining within 5 pounds for several years. My net calories are 1600, my actual are usually above 2200. MFP does work.0
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cmriverside wrote: »Well, you're not going to get exact numbers for exercise - and for some people they ARE accurate. For some they aren't.
If you are sold on your Nutritionist, do it his way. ::shrug:: If it stops working, re-evaluate. If you're just doing moderate exercise a few times per week it doesn't really matter that much, just a couple hundred calories anyway.
I actually get 700 sometimes more extra calories as I do alot of excercise. Ok thank you anyway
There’s a lot of calories between zero and 700... and you’re doing exercise so you know you burn some calories, yet you seem bound and determined to choose the one number that is definitively wrong.
So... good luck?5 -
I lost 103 pounds 7 months ago which I've maintained without this app. I came on here after getting advice to use it but like I said I'm getting conflicting answers
Congrats.
I won't try to help because I don't want to add to the answers that seem to be causing you trouble.
Good luck.
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