Should I Keto?
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ultra_violets wrote: »keto is just a way of eating. People maintain and even gain weight eating this way. some peoeple enjoy it as it keeps them full and they enjoy the foods that work well wtih keto.
Remember carbs are not only in bread and rice. they are in fruit and veggies and many other foods. and Keto is VERY low carb (you can alternatively eat just "lower carb" without going as far as Keto goes).
there is no need to do Keto to lose weight. especially if it's not a way of eating one finds filling or can see doing the rest of their life. the best way to lose weight is by practicing habits you will hopefully maintain for life to keep the weight off.
to lose weight, you need to eat fewer calories than your body uses over a period of time. that's it. pick a way of eating that is comfortable for you and keeps you full. personally my "diet" has no name. i eat foods i like, in moderation and ensure they fit in my calorie goal.
This. The only reasons to do keto are if you like to eat that way or if a doctor specifically told you to do it to treat a medical condition. Keto does not do anything special for weight loss. Weight loss happens in a calorie deficit, and keto is just one way that some people prefer to eat while in a deficit.
It also helped, in my case, by breaking the addiction to junk carbs. Once I cut out the white bread and sugar and processed foods, it was like flipping a switch. I just didn't want them anymore. Being a food addict, it's the only thing that's worked for me. I spent years giving my money to Kellogg's, to Nestle, to Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisine, and I stayed broke, fat and sick. There's no one at the top of the keto pyramid making money off this diet. It's just the way we ate before processed carbs were a thing.
LOL except the myriad of “doctors” and others selling books, creating websites with paid advertisements and other profit generators trying to convince the public of the magic of keto, the evils of sugar and insulin, and that this is basically the best thing since sliced bread. And yes, that pun is intended. If you think people aren’t trying to profit off of keto then you are sorely mistaken.33 -
Point of interest: does keto exclude vegetable oils/fats as mentioned above, and if so, why? (was not aware of that)1
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HelenGerdes wrote: »I have been following a ketogenic lifestyle since July and it has honestly changed my life. I have Lupus and it has helped my chronic pain and inflammation. As a very welcome side effect, I have lost 16 pounds and 6.5” off my hips, 4.5” off my waist. It has changed my relationship with food.
Awww yay! I’m happy it’s working out for you! Are you also working out on Keto? Or is working out something I should take lightly on it?
The first couple of weeks are an adjustment as you switch from burning glucose as fuel to burning fat so exercise may be tough. I do exercise now but many keto people do not. I guess I would say I don’t exercise to lose weight. I exercise to firm up and make myself healthier. My best advice I can give you for the first few weeks is to keep your electrolytes balanced. You lose a lot of water and with that goes electrolytes. As weird as it may sound I would drink pickle juice when I felt a headache or “Keto Flu” coming on. If you want to friend me on here, feel free. I can answer any questions or help with support. I know it sounds cliche to say it has changed my life but it genuinely has. My kids have their mom back and I can finally enjoy my life.2 -
I find keto to be completely unnecessary, as weighing my food to meet my calorie goals on here worked for me great. I also have a really hard time cooking for friends who are on keto or Whole 30. Seems unnecessary. But some people really say it's a positive experience for them. I was better prepared to lose weight eating the things I'm still going to be eating once my weight loss was done.10
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HelenGerdes wrote: »I have been following a ketogenic lifestyle since July and it has honestly changed my life. I have Lupus and it has helped my chronic pain and inflammation. As a very welcome side effect, I have lost 16 pounds and 6.5” off my hips, 4.5” off my waist. It has changed my relationship with food.
Awww yay! I’m happy it’s working out for you! Are you also working out on Keto? Or is working out something I should take lightly on it?
The first couple of weeks are an adjustment as you switch from burning glucose as fuel to burning fat so exercise may be tough. I do exercise now but many keto people do not. I guess I would say I don’t exercise to lose weight. I exercise to firm up and make myself healthier. My best advice I can give you for the first few weeks is to keep your electrolytes balanced. You lose a lot of water and with that goes electrolytes. As weird as it may sound I would drink pickle juice when I felt a headache or “Keto Flu” coming on. If you want to friend me on here, feel free. I can answer any questions or help with support. I know it sounds cliche to say it has changed my life but it genuinely has. My kids have their mom back and I can finally enjoy my life.
That’s actually funny bc strangely enough I love pickles and the juice! Lol. My doctor has me on a high salt diet so I do make sure to involve salt into my diet as much as possible so that sound work?
I’m going to try and do light workouts like yoga maybe to test it out and see what end up working out for me
Thank you, will do! (:0 -
Yeah, don’t be afraid of salt. I use pink Himalayan salt so I’m not getting any of the junk in regular table salt and it tastes so much better too.
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I am a keto'er....I have lost 10lbs so far...I do workout.....I am on this WOE more for my type II diabetes..I was just diagnosed with diabetes in Jan. I am on a mission to reverse my diabetes and lose weight
I drink what they call keto gatorade......mio, salt and water 6 -
HelenGerdes wrote: »@SueSueDio thank you! Great post! I def crave my Italian food and my naan for my Indian cuisine! I will try to stop consuming carbs when I have the right mindset and test the waters to see if this diet works for me. Thanks again friend!
Why would you try and stop consuming carbs?
Do I have a woo stalker? Doesn’t seem to matter where or what I post. If so, that would make me feel very special
2, apparently
I think someone goes through all the keto threads and woos anyone who doesn't cheerlead.
Yeah, pretty sure someone woo stalks the keto threads. Telling someone that keto doesn’t do anything special for weight loss is a sure way to get woo’d.9 -
HelenGerdes wrote: »I have been following a ketogenic lifestyle since July and it has honestly changed my life. I have Lupus and it has helped my chronic pain and inflammation. As a very welcome side effect, I have lost 16 pounds and 6.5” off my hips, 4.5” off my waist. It has changed my relationship with food.
Awww yay! I’m happy it’s working out for you! Are you also working out on Keto? Or is working out something I should take lightly on it?
Seriously, if the answer were that working out and a keto diet weren't compatible -- that's not the answer, but if it were -- would you really think it was a good idea to commit to a diet that won't support exercising for fitness?1 -
You're mushing together different WOEs, like keto and "clean eating" or keto and paleo.12 -
HelenGerdes wrote: »HelenGerdes wrote: »I have been following a ketogenic lifestyle since July and it has honestly changed my life. I have Lupus and it has helped my chronic pain and inflammation. As a very welcome side effect, I have lost 16 pounds and 6.5” off my hips, 4.5” off my waist. It has changed my relationship with food.
Awww yay! I’m happy it’s working out for you! Are you also working out on Keto? Or is working out something I should take lightly on it?
The first couple of weeks are an adjustment as you switch from burning glucose as fuel to burning fat so exercise may be tough. I do exercise now but many keto people do not. I guess I would say I don’t exercise to lose weight. I exercise to firm up and make myself healthier. My best advice I can give you for the first few weeks is to keep your electrolytes balanced. You lose a lot of water and with that goes electrolytes. As weird as it may sound I would drink pickle juice when I felt a headache or “Keto Flu” coming on. If you want to friend me on here, feel free. I can answer any questions or help with support. I know it sounds cliche to say it has changed my life but it genuinely has. My kids have their mom back and I can finally enjoy my life.
That’s actually funny bc strangely enough I love pickles and the juice! Lol. My doctor has me on a high salt diet so I do make sure to involve salt into my diet as much as possible so that sound work?
I’m going to try and do light workouts like yoga maybe to test it out and see what end up working out for me
Thank you, will do! (:
In your case, then, you should definitely consult with your doctor before undertaking a keto diet. If you have some condition that causes you to require extra sodium, launching into a diet that causes people to be deficient in electrolytes unless they consciously supplement (through tabs or high sodium foods) doesn't sound like a great fit to me, but I'm not a doctor. I think you should consult your doctor to be sure a keto diet won't undercut his treatment plan for whatever situation caused you do need a high-sodium diet in the first place.11 -
Yeah, don’t be afraid of salt. I use pink Himalayan salt so I’m not getting any of the junk in regular table salt and it tastes so much better too.
I'm not sure what junk is in regular table salt. Usually, they add iodine, which you need. Otherwise, the trace minerals in pink Himalayan are present in such negligible quantities as to present no additional benefit. (And if you're still using it for those trace elements, keep in mind that it also contains traces of arsenic and uranium...)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pink-himalayan-salt#section5
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315081.php
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw7a8y/is-pink-salt-good-for-you-himalayan-salt-vs-regular-salt
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-and-nutrition-quackery-you-asked/himalayan-pink-salt
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estherdragonbat wrote: »Yeah, don’t be afraid of salt. I use pink Himalayan salt so I’m not getting any of the junk in regular table salt and it tastes so much better too.
I'm not sure what junk is in regular table salt. Usually, they add iodine, which you need. Otherwise, the trace minerals in pink Himalayan are present in such negligible quantities as to present no additional benefit. (And if you're still using it for those trace elements, keep in mind that it also contains traces of arsenic and uranium...)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pink-himalayan-salt#section5
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315081.php
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw7a8y/is-pink-salt-good-for-you-himalayan-salt-vs-regular-salt
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-and-nutrition-quackery-you-asked/himalayan-pink-salt
In my experience, claims of 'junk' in things like this is usually a result of chemical names that can't be pronounced and/or aluminum.10 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »Yeah, don’t be afraid of salt. I use pink Himalayan salt so I’m not getting any of the junk in regular table salt and it tastes so much better too.
I'm not sure what junk is in regular table salt. Usually, they add iodine, which you need. Otherwise, the trace minerals in pink Himalayan are present in such negligible quantities as to present no additional benefit. (And if you're still using it for those trace elements, keep in mind that it also contains traces of arsenic and uranium...)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pink-himalayan-salt#section5
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315081.php
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw7a8y/is-pink-salt-good-for-you-himalayan-salt-vs-regular-salt
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-and-nutrition-quackery-you-asked/himalayan-pink-salt
In my experience, claims of 'junk' in things like this is usually a result of chemical names that can't be pronounced and/or aluminum.
a-lúm-inum or alu-míni-oum 7 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »Yeah, don’t be afraid of salt. I use pink Himalayan salt so I’m not getting any of the junk in regular table salt and it tastes so much better too.
I'm not sure what junk is in regular table salt. Usually, they add iodine, which you need. Otherwise, the trace minerals in pink Himalayan are present in such negligible quantities as to present no additional benefit. (And if you're still using it for those trace elements, keep in mind that it also contains traces of arsenic and uranium...)
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/pink-himalayan-salt#section5
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315081.php
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw7a8y/is-pink-salt-good-for-you-himalayan-salt-vs-regular-salt
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pass-the-salt-but-not-that-pink-himalayan-stuff/
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/health-and-nutrition-quackery-you-asked/himalayan-pink-salt
In my experience, claims of 'junk' in things like this is usually a result of chemical names that can't be pronounced and/or aluminum.
a-lúm-inum or alu-míni-oum
I know the U.S. spelling is aluminum. The British spelling is aluminium. Where do they spell it aluminioum?
ETA: Or is aluminioum a joke referencing some TV show or movie that I missed?1 -
Just trying to pronounce the unpronounceable what with the little accents and all
A single u wasn't giving me a fat enough uhm for my taste!!!
Though I guess uhm might have worked out better.
And still failing my phonetic spelling.
Which confirms the unpronounceability5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »ultra_violets wrote: »keto is just a way of eating. People maintain and even gain weight eating this way. some peoeple enjoy it as it keeps them full and they enjoy the foods that work well wtih keto.
Remember carbs are not only in bread and rice. they are in fruit and veggies and many other foods. and Keto is VERY low carb (you can alternatively eat just "lower carb" without going as far as Keto goes).
there is no need to do Keto to lose weight. especially if it's not a way of eating one finds filling or can see doing the rest of their life. the best way to lose weight is by practicing habits you will hopefully maintain for life to keep the weight off.
to lose weight, you need to eat fewer calories than your body uses over a period of time. that's it. pick a way of eating that is comfortable for you and keeps you full. personally my "diet" has no name. i eat foods i like, in moderation and ensure they fit in my calorie goal.
This. The only reasons to do keto are if you like to eat that way or if a doctor specifically told you to do it to treat a medical condition. Keto does not do anything special for weight loss. Weight loss happens in a calorie deficit, and keto is just one way that some people prefer to eat while in a deficit.
It also helped, in my case, by breaking the addiction to junk carbs. Once I cut out the white bread and sugar and processed foods, it was like flipping a switch. I just didn't want them anymore. Being a food addict, it's the only thing that's worked for me. I spent years giving my money to Kellogg's, to Nestle, to Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisine, and I stayed broke, fat and sick. There's no one at the top of the keto pyramid making money off this diet. It's just the way we ate before processed carbs were a thing.
LOL except the myriad of “doctors” and others selling books, creating websites with paid advertisements and other profit generators trying to convince the public of the magic of keto, the evils of sugar and insulin, and that this is basically the best thing since sliced bread. And yes, that pun is intended. If you think people aren’t trying to profit off of keto then you are sorely mistaken.
And don't forget those selling pink Himalayan salt!8 -
I was totally addicted to carbs before doing keto. I needed to cut down on carbs due to PCOS and infertility. It has done wonders for my inflammation and hormonal acne. Doesnt hurt to try. Before I found keto I did several different ways of eating. Try what's best for you. No harm in trying different ways of eating for 30 days and pay attention to what your body responds to best. For easy keto, eggs, sugar free bacon, chicken thighs, pork loin and beef. Leafy greens have the lowest carbs cook with with salt pepper and butter.3
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A ketogenic diet is just a diet where you are in ketosis the vast majority of the time - carbs are usually under 20-50g. Many who eat keto for health reasons will avoid vegetable seed oils for the reasons you mentioned, I do too, but it is not required for a ketogenic diet.
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