Looking for calorie advice
andreadods
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Hi I am ready to cry and need some advice. I have a lot of health problems and am on a lot of medication. I won't say the medication but depression and being left disabled has contributed towards me gaining a lot of weight. I am fed up and finally feel ready to commit to a diet. I am just over 300lbs. I had started on 1700 cals a day and initially lost 4lbs over 4 weeks and have just weighed myself and it has gone back on. I try to keep within the target for fat, carbs and protein every day. And have been making sure I have enough water. I know I have a lot to lose and know I will need to drop calories as I lose. So do you think I am OK to drop to 1400cals? I am disabled so don't walk much but have been exercising in the ways that I can.
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1400 calories sounds too low to me.
Depending on your height, I guess
How did you get the 1700 and 1400 figures?
Put your stats in to MFP and set your activity level to sedentary and eat the amount it gives you, aiming to log accurately, at least in the beginning until you get a ball park of what works for you.0 -
Don't be so quick to assume you need to drop calories. Weight fluctuates for a variety of reasons (TOM and ovulation for cycling women, sodium, food waste volume, etc.)
How are you measuring your 1700 calories? Have you read the stickies about accurate logging on MFP?7 -
andreadods wrote: »Hi I am ready to cry and need some advice. I have a lot of health problems and am on a lot of medication. I won't say the medication but depression and being left disabled has contributed towards me gaining a lot of weight. I am fed up and finally feel ready to commit to a diet. I am just over 300lbs. I had started on 1700 cals a day and initially lost 4lbs over 4 weeks and have just weighed myself and it has gone back on. I try to keep within the target for fat, carbs and protein every day. And have been making sure I have enough water. I know I have a lot to lose and know I will need to drop calories as I lose. So do you think I am OK to drop to 1400cals? I am disabled so don't walk much but have been exercising in the ways that I can.
For what it's worth, 4lbs can easily be a fluctuation. Yesterday I weighed in at 214. Last night's dinner was pasta and meatballs. Today's weight? 217. Fluctuations suck, but they're temporary. If you feel you can handle it, weigh daily and using a trending app like Libra or Happy Scale, or simply write down your weight measurements every day. Once you have a trend going you'll be able to better see the difference between fluctuations and slip-ups, tracking your food will also help there. As long as you're weighing and recording your food, trust the process. The weight will come off. I would definitely stay at the 1700 cal.6 -
From my own experience, I don't advise you to follow MFP when it comes to setting your caloric needs according to your goal, and even less your own judgement unless you are really knowledgeable about nutriotion and know your body. Search on youtube, pick your sources wisely, and follow their tips, advises and process. Plenty of information online30
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From my own experience, I don't advise you to follow MFP when it comes to setting your caloric needs according to your goal, and even less your own judgement unless you are really knowledgeable about nutriotion and know your body. Search on youtube, pick your sources wisely, and follow their tips, advises and process. Plenty of information online
Why? What's wrong with MFP's formula? With a handful of exceptions it works quite well for most people.11 -
From my own experience, I don't advise you to follow MFP when it comes to setting your caloric needs according to your goal, and even less your own judgement unless you are really knowledgeable about nutriotion and know your body. Search on youtube, pick your sources wisely, and follow their tips, advises and process. Plenty of information online
How on Earth is YouTube a better source than MFP? Any advice on how to "pick your sources wisely"? Because there's a lot of straight up BS on YouTube.
MY n=1 when I did the math (based on actual results over a period of several months) is that MFP was right about my maintenance within 50 calories.18 -
From my own experience, I don't advise you to follow MFP when it comes to setting your caloric needs according to your goal, and even less your own judgement unless you are really knowledgeable about nutriotion and know your body. Search on youtube, pick your sources wisely, and follow their tips, advises and process. Plenty of information online
Search on Youtube? what on earth kind of advice is that? There are some terrible weight loss channels there, the same as the rest of the internet, full of bro-science and snake oil woo.
MFP's calorie allowance is quite reasonably calculated, it's people picking unrealistic rates of loss and not factoring in exercise as the tool is intended that is the problem.
OP you need to give it more time, weight loss isn't linear and 4lbs weight fluctuation is a quite normal amount for someone who is starting out at 300lbs. Stick with the 1700, log accurately and give it 4-6 weeks before you change anything.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
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Hi Andrea
So sorry to hear you're feeling so fed up. Three of the most important lessons I've learn while losing weight are: eat the most amount of calories you can while losing 1-2lb per week; make sure you are measuring and tracking what you eat accurately and consistently; and don't sweat changes in the scale number unless they are sustained over several weeks.
1700 sounds like it might be a little low for you (depending on your age and height), but so long as you are happy and satisfied with your diet then it is probably fine. I recommend using a tdee calculator (such as https://tdeecalculator.net) to work out what your maintenance calories are and then deduct 500 cals per day. As you are disabled you probably fall somewhere between the sedentary and lightly active figure. The reason why I recommend not eating too little (and def not going below your BMR) is because you need to be able to maintain it for months (if not years) and you are more likely to binge or give up if you feel hungry and deprived. I would always give a number of calories several weeks before determining if it is working for you, and assess its success based on the scale, body measurements and photos.
There are loads of threads on here about the importance of logging your food accurately, as it is easy to belive you are eating say 1700 calories, but unless you are using a food scale for everything you could be eating considerably more. Also check that the database entries you use in MFP are accurate.
Lastly, scale weight varies enormously based on all sorts of factors (there is a good blog post that someone else might have the link to? Something like - the weird and wonderful world of scale fluctuations). So if you know your calorie intake is in a deficit and you are logging accurately, sometimes you just have to have faith to ride out an increase in the scale number. This is why body measurements and photos can be so important to show that you are actually losing fat.
The best of luck x1 -
amskinner87 wrote: »
Lastly, scale weight varies enormously based on all sorts of factors (there is a good blog post that someone else might have the link to? Something like - the weird and wonderful world of scale fluctuations). So if you know your calorie intake is in a deficit and you are logging accurately, sometimes you just have to have faith to ride out an increase in the scale number. This is why body measurements and photos can be so important to show that you are actually losing fat.
The best of luck x
This one? http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations/5 -
It took me some time to realize that my fat weight was going down even when the scale was going up but it is true. Logging accurately and trusting the food scale not the bathroom scale keeps me quite sane. Not that long ago my weight climbed almost 8 pounds in a week but here it is a few weeks later and last week I had a new low weight. The very next day I was up 1.6 pounds and the day after that I was down 1.2 pounds.
If I am in a calorie deficit I know I am losing the weight I want to lose. I just know I won't see it on the bathroom scale in any type of linear fashion.
Read the article that @tinkerbellang83, aka the dictator, posted.7 -
It took me some time to realize that my fat weight was going down even when the scale was going up but it is true. Logging accurately and trusting the food scale not the bathroom scale keeps me quite sane. Not that long ago my weight climbed almost 8 pounds in a week but here it is a few weeks later and last week I had a new low weight. The very next day I was up 1.6 pounds and the day after that I was down 1.2 pounds.
If I am in a calorie deficit I know I am losing the weight I want to lose. I just know I won't see it on the bathroom scale in any type of linear fashion.
Read the article that @tinkerbellang83, aka the dictator, posted.
That really is starting to stick now I do prefer my more commonly used title of "The Oracle"7 -
Hey the 1700 comes from mfp calculations losing 1 1/2 lbs a week. I have done my bmr which is 2010 and my tdee is 2400. I am 5ft 1. I think I am finding it hard as this last 4 weeks have been so hard seeing no results. My scales are pretty accurate as I check them with a weight. And I weigh and measure everything I eat. Obviously I need to learn patience and I will try doing measurements for a while and see if that helps. Thanks everyone for your input.4
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I would be patient.
I would verify my instrument: you have to be holding the weight not just place on the scale. Scales perform differently at different weight ranges. Verify that your scale is on an even and unyielding floor.
I would not reduce my target calories.
I would verify all my measuring assumptions. I read all the stickies and still found myself making logging errors 6 months in.
Goal is to have everything in your MFP log before it hits your mouth!
Double check raw vs cooked values, condiments by weight, liquids by weight as a double check to volume measurement {but don't assume that 1ml is 1g for everything. oil, and churned or whipped products are often more than 1ml per gram%}. Don't assume that zero calorie products really are zero in the quantities used!2 -
Imma just peep in here with a less intense theory or goal , because what worked for me initially anyway was focusing on cutting one thing at a time. So as not to be overwhelmed, eg I used toast smothered in butter and peanut butter on the morning and I changed it to oats kept it up until I didn’t crave it anymore , then I focussed on fizzy , stopped drinking it slowly easing off with watered down cordial , now I crave water. Etc I dunno worked for me:)0
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