The Price for being born - Natural birth or C-Sections
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First let me tell you that I'm not yet a Mother, I do very much look forward to being one in the near future . In my ignorance you will usually hear me say , " I'll just have a C-section and get it over with" How convenient right ...? ..but last night I watched " The price for being born" on Nextflix. Was I wrong!
What an eyer opener!
Over 70% of Births in Asia and Europe are natural births assisted by Midwifes- also the lowest rate of mortalities.
The U.S stands alone at 8% of natural Births- higher mortality rate.
It's said that American women are constantly being told that they can't do this alone- a team of doctors ,drugs and surgery is the norm. We all know hospitals are business , each C-sect can cost up to 13,000, while a home birth is around 4,000.
A woman on labor who is not dilating quick enough according to hospital staff will be enduced with drugs (they need to service you and quickly) which puts stress on the baby ,causing heart rate to rise therefore an urgent c-section is required.
At home you are not pressure, Time is not an issue , you can give the baby the chance to come naturally.
After watching the natural home births on this documentary , I'm now leaning to have one of this myself when time comes.They also discuss the scientifically proven " Love Hormones" that come to affect the moment the mother and baby embrace, it's a very intimate and beautiful moment.
Let me hear your opinions Moms out there =D
What an eyer opener!
Over 70% of Births in Asia and Europe are natural births assisted by Midwifes- also the lowest rate of mortalities.
The U.S stands alone at 8% of natural Births- higher mortality rate.
It's said that American women are constantly being told that they can't do this alone- a team of doctors ,drugs and surgery is the norm. We all know hospitals are business , each C-sect can cost up to 13,000, while a home birth is around 4,000.
A woman on labor who is not dilating quick enough according to hospital staff will be enduced with drugs (they need to service you and quickly) which puts stress on the baby ,causing heart rate to rise therefore an urgent c-section is required.
At home you are not pressure, Time is not an issue , you can give the baby the chance to come naturally.
After watching the natural home births on this documentary , I'm now leaning to have one of this myself when time comes.They also discuss the scientifically proven " Love Hormones" that come to affect the moment the mother and baby embrace, it's a very intimate and beautiful moment.
Let me hear your opinions Moms out there =D
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I have 3 children. The 1st was born vaginally with some medical inetrventions in the hospital. The 2nd and 3rd were born at home with certified midwives and birth attendants. Each experience was unique and wonderful :flowerforyou:
*edited to add~about those love hormones?? They are very real and the most incredible phenomenon you, as a mother, will EVER experience! Good for you for doing your research
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The only reason I had a c-section was because of the size and position of my twins. They never turned and were out of room by the time they were supposed to turn downward. They would have both been breech. I wouldn't have minded the other way.0
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Well have 3 boys all delivered early with emergency c-sections (never learned:laugh: ) It was difficult cos you are sore and in my case all my babies were taken to baby care right away, so I never got to see them for a few hours, let alone hold them, that was weeks later. It certainly was hard, but I didn't feel any less of a mother, I think the bond happens before the baby is born anyway, so I was feeling the love for all mine whether I could touch them or not. That being said, the first moment I got to hold all of them was very precious
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I actually had a c-section 6 months ago. I wa induced into labor becuase at my due date I still had not diated, even to a 1. My water broke after the induction but I started to run a fever (103.5 at the highest) and I stop dilation at 8 cm. Had I gone against my doctor's orders to have a c-section, I think I would have continued to run a fever (as well as my baby) and I may not have the healty baby girl I have today. When she was born, it was determined that she was too big to fit through my pelvic bones and she had the cord wrapped around her neck tightly. In my case, I think it was the right decision, but everyone's labor is different.0
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I can say, I was incredibly against the idea of a C-section. I wanted an all natural (med free birth) mainly because I am PETRIFIED of getting IVs. However when I was nearing the end of my pregnancy they found out my son was growth restricted and decided to induce me (IV - eek!) I tried and tried to have a natural birth but they kept upping my pitocin levels in attempts to get him out quickly. Eventually we were both in distress and they called for an emergency C-section. I fought and fought them but eventually was made to have one. It was such a horrible experience for me!0
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2 c-sections here. 1st was breech with umbilical wrapped around leg; 2nd I decided to repeat c-section. Each c-section was different and bonding was immediate.0
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Both my children were born naturally. I didn't have any pain meds. My labor (the time I checked in to the hospital to the time I delivered) was 5 hours for my oldest and 7 for my youngest. But I was very VERY active and stayed in good shape while pregnant. I was always told unless I wanted a long drawn out labor I better stay active. My uncle's wife was pregnant while I was and went thru 18 hours of labor and the epidural wore off before she delivered via c-section. She didn't do anything but sleep while she was pregnant. That was enough evidence for me!0
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yes def dont go for a c section! i was 2 weeks late they induced me and i still couldnt dialate past 5cm after being there for 3 daYS so i went with the c section after your c section your in so much pain! it hurts to cough sneeze or get up i couldnt get out of bed the second your meds wear off the pain hits you hard! i couldnt get out of bed i was in tears 1 night lol not to scare you or anything i told myslef if i have anymore i will stay in labor for days i dont want a c sec ever again! push the baby out and maybe have some epiduural too lol0
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The only reason I had a c-section was because of the size and position of my twins. They never turned and were out of room by the time they were supposed to turn downward. They would have both been breech. I wouldn't have minded the other way.
Same happens with a lady in the documentary, she has all the intentions of doing a natural birth but the baby was breech so a C-sect was a must 0 -
I am not a mom yet, but looking to be one within the next 2 1/2 years. Both my brother and I were born in a hospital, but through natural, no medication, vaginal births. I have a friend who has midwives her whole pregnancies and did the home births and she loved it. Another friend opted for a C-section and she was in unbelieveable pain for weeks while her incisions healed, obviously pain killer not an option since they can show up in the breast milk which is bad for baby. My fiance and I have been discussing whether to do a home birth or a hospital one. I am a very proud Pagan and would love to do a natural home birth with a midwife and maybe a doula, but he is worried about if there are any "complications" so we'll see what happens, but I would like to keep it as natural as possible, it is my body after all! (now do take with with a grain of salt because I refuse to take medication or go to see a doctor unless it is "really" bad. I try and rely on natural remedies as much as possible for everything)0
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My wife chose to go the natural method, but everyone is different and here is what you need to know;
The drugs that make child birth more comfortable for a woman ALSO cause false positives for fetal stress and make Drs think that baby needs to be cut out. So the lesson here is that natural child birth means it is going to hurt.
Many young women are heavier now so the babies are bigger and may not fit out as easily.
See what your insurance will cover.
Every hospital is different about these issues. Shop around for Drs and hospitals and see what makes you comfortable.
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The state of obstetrics in this country is appalling. It definitely needs overhauling and won't be done by physicians.
My first son was born in a hospital, zero intervention, zero drugs, with a doctor of osteopathy in attendance. My girls were born at home with a licensed lay midwife.
Doctors don't want to wait, want the baby out in a couple of pushes or they cut an enormous episiotomy, and most have no CLUE how to deliver a baby in the breech position.
What we need is for people to transfer their sense of consumerism over to their medical/healthcare in addition to just their purchasing of goods and services. We put up with things from our doctors we would never put up with from any other service. The key is knowledge. Know how your body is supposed to work, know what is normal, and find an obstetrician or midwife who will work with your body rather than working on their own time schedule.0 -
Sorry, I'm going to be honest. Yes, it's a really corrupt thing about how dangerous a c-section can be. However, I like my vagina where it's at. I ain't EVER had to push a baby out of it, and I pride myself in that. LOL.
In all seriousness though, 1st birth I was in labor for a DAY. I told the doctor to give me a c-section. I begged. I was sick of the contractions, and all I wanted to do was go to sleep. Second, repeat. Third I was planning a VBAC but my uterus ruptured and my son was born a month early. There was no other choice. I was one of those rare cases. So it was a life/death kind of thing. I don't regret them at all. I just regret the ridiculous skin flap.0 -
That's all fine and good...but there are many other reasons for a C-section besides failure to progress. I have a tilted pelvis and all 3 of my babies stayed butt down (frank breech) around 28 weeks. I can only carry a baby one way I guess...and that is butt first...lol! I had to have C-sections...delivering a breech baby is out of the question. I know they can turn babies, but that in itself is very risky.0
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First let me tell you that I'm not yet a Mother, I do very much look forward to being one in the near future . In my ignorance you will usually hear me say , " I'll just have a C-section and get it over with" How convenient right ...?
The absolute best option is c-section followed by an immediate tummy tuck. Now you only have to recover from 1 surgery and you come out with a flat tight tummy, win win! - yea I don't have kids either, can you tell
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Wow..! All you ladies are amazing. :flowerforyou:0
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With my first daughter, I was planning on going all natural. I went 4 days past my due date and woke up bleeding. I was at a 3. I continued to bleed heavily and lose clots. I got to a 9.5. Her heart rate would rapidly accelerate to 190 and then decrease a second later to 20. Eventually she quit breathing and I started bleeding rapidly. If I had not had my emergency c-section I would not be here today nor would my daughter. Honestly, I think if you trust your doctor/midwife enough, no matter what you choose and what happens you will be happy in knowing they did everything they could to keep you and your baby safe.0
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I feel i should add that I was 9 weeks early with my 1st two and they kept me hanging on till 6 weeks prem with my last. I was very ill with undiagnosed kidney problems and fear for my life meant the docs needed to section me. My second and third I was in hospital for many months keeping the babies in as long as possible, but everyone knew it was not an option for me to have a natural birth. I'm in the UK by the way.0
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I don't mean to scare you here bu:
I've worked in blood banks for probably 10 years now. About once every month we get a patient from the birth center in the hospital that goes into DIC (disseminated intravascular coagulopathy) because they have Placental abruption, pre-eclampsia or an embolism somewhere.
When DIC happens you're blood does not clot and you bleed profusely. While it is a problem in natural births, it is often fatal (to the mother) in C-section births. The mother will just bleed out from the c-section site. There is almost nothing they can do to stop it once it starts, hopefully the body corrects itself and it stops.
I know that we put over 40 units (body holds around 10)of blood through one patient with a case like this.
Since I've been working in blood bank we've had about 8 or so of these types of things happen that were fatal.
One of my wife's friends died because she went into DIC during an emergency c-section (the baby was in distress). They didn't know whe had a clot and when they did the c-section she went into DIC and bled out in about 15 minutes. The baby later died and her husband went from being excited about having a great wife and about becoming a father to being heartbroken and alone in 15 minutes.
I don't want to make it sound like it happens a lot, we deal with several hundred births a year at our hospital and it's not a common occurance but this happens a lot more to c-section patients than natural birth patients.
I wouldn't allow my wife to have a c-section unless it was absolutely necassary, if I had my way. Anytime you open up the body you open your self up for complications, some that can be fatal.0 -
I have one child, and his birth is so very fresh in my head since he's only 15 months.
I delivered vaginally at a hospital, with an epidural. My total labor, was 25 hours. I started contractions, thinking they were braxton hicks at 1:00pm then realized around 7:00pm it may be go time. Sure enough it was, jumped from 4cm to 7cm in 2 hours. My water broke on its own, and it wasn't until about 11:00am, the next day, the doctor decide to give me pitocin to expedite the process. 2 hours of pushing and we welcomed our beautiful son. While the pushing was exhausting I am so glad I got the epidural and was able to get lots of rest before pushing.
Recovery was quick. They had me walking to the bathroom as soon as my epidural wore off, and by the end of the night I was antsy to move around. I was immediately able to shower and move around on my own. I even drove to the store, even though my husband was not too sure about the thought, less than a week later.
Every mother has their own wishes for their birth, and each one is going to vary mother to mother. When we have another child, I hope I am able to do it again vaginally and that it goes as smoothly as my first.
I suggest when the time comes you are pregnant, take pregnancy classes. I found ours to be very helpful in letting you know all of your options for the birth of your child.0 -
I might be wrong in thinking this and hopefully someone else can confirm or deny it. I'm under the impression that it's general practice to attempt a vaginal birth the first time you have a baby. However, if you end up having a c-section, it is recommended that all your other births after that will be a scheduled c-section because there's an increased risk of hemmoraging.
I don't have any children, but my sister has had two c-sections. After watching her recover from a c-section, I'd chose to have a baby naturally if I can. There's no point in getting cut open and dealing with painful recovery if you don't have to.0 -
I don't mean to scare you here bu:
I've worked in blood banks for probably 10 years now. About once every month we get a patient from the birth center in the hospital that goes into DIC (disseminated intravascular coagulopathy) because they have Placental abruption, pre-eclampsia or an embolism somewhere.
When DIC happens you're blood does not clot and you bleed profusely. While it is a problem in natural births, it is often fatal (to the mother) in C-section births. The mother will just bleed out from the c-section site. There is almost nothing they can do to stop it once it starts, hopefully the body corrects itself and it stops.
I know that we put over 40 units (body holds around 10)of blood through one patient with a case like this.
Since I've been working in blood bank we've had about 8 or so of these types of things happen that were fatal.
One of my wife's friends died because she went into DIC during an emergency c-section (the baby was in distress). They didn't know whe had a clot and when they did the c-section she went into DIC and bled out in about 15 minutes. The baby later died and her husband went from being excited about having a great wife and about becoming a father to being heartbroken and alone in 15 minutes.
I don't want to make it sound like it happens a lot, we deal with several hundred births a year at our hospital and it's not a common occurance but this happens a lot more to c-section patients than natural birth patients.
I wouldn't allow my wife to have a c-section unless it was absolutely necassary, if I had my way. Anytime you open up the body you open your self up for complications, some that can be fatal.
That is scary ,Good to know all these beforehand, I totally feel for the person who loss his wife and baby =(0 -
I have one child, and his birth is so very fresh in my head since he's only 15 months.
I delivered vaginally at a hospital, with an epidural. My total labor, was 25 hours. I started contractions, thinking they were braxton hicks at 1:00pm then realized around 7:00pm it may be go time. Sure enough it was, jumped from 4cm to 7cm in 2 hours. My water broke on its own, and it wasn't until about 11:00am, the next day, the doctor decide to give me pitocin to expedite the process. 2 hours of pushing and we welcomed our beautiful son. While the pushing was exhausting I am so glad I got the epidural and was able to get lots of rest before pushing.
Recovery was quick. They had me walking to the bathroom as soon as my epidural wore off, and by the end of the night I was antsy to move around. I was immediately able to shower and move around on my own. I even drove to the store, even though my husband was not too sure about the thought, less than a week later.
Every mother has their own wishes for their birth, and each one is going to vary mother to mother. When we have another child, I hope I am able to do it again vaginally and that it goes as smoothly as my first.
I suggest when the time comes you are pregnant, take pregnancy classes. I found ours to be very helpful in letting you know all of your options for the birth of your child.
That is great , there is a baby that needs you and being recovered and ready to go sounds great. The sense of accomplishment of having done it naturally , it must affect your self esteem and character...making the woman more self confident which is a good quality for a new mom to have.0 -
Honestly, I don't care what anyone chooses to do with their birth scenario. It's up to your EDUCATED opinion. I'm not going to flame people for choosing differently from what I chose, so I expect that no one would flame me, either.0
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I might be wrong in thinking this and hopefully someone else can confirm or deny it. I'm under the impression that it's general practice to attempt a vaginal birth the first time you have a baby. However, if you end up having a c-section, it is recommended that all your other births after that will be a scheduled c-section because there's an increased risk of hemmoraging.
I don't have any children, but my sister has had two c-sections. After watching her recover from a c-section, I'd chose to have a baby naturally if I can. There's no point in getting cut open and dealing with painful recovery if you don't have to.
That used to be the way things were done, but it's less common now. It depends on the doctor, some will recommend trying natural birth, some will say you should do a c-section again. It also depends on other health issues as well. Back when I was born the common practice was that if you had a c-section almost all MDs would have told you that the rest of the kids will be c-section, but not so much anymore.0 -
I might be wrong in thinking this and hopefully someone else can confirm or deny it. I'm under the impression that it's general practice to attempt a vaginal birth the first time you have a baby. However, if you end up having a c-section, it is recommended that all your other births after that will be a scheduled c-section because there's an increased risk of hemmoraging.
I don't have any children, but my sister has had two c-sections. After watching her recover from a c-section, I'd chose to have a baby naturally if I can. There's no point in getting cut open and dealing with painful recovery if you don't have to.
Nowadays having 1 C-section does not mean they all have to be. I very much plan on having a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) with my next baby. Although there is more risk associated with that, so you may have to search for a doctor who will do one, or you can go with a midwife (almost all of whom are willing to do so).0 -
I did it both ways
First baby was an emergency c section as he had stopped growing between 33-35 weeks, had no amniotic fluid and made no practise breathing movements. Scary. But he was totally fine, for some reason my body wasn't providing for him what he needed.
Second baby was born VBAC. My doctor gave me the choice between c sec or natural. I chose natural simply because the recovery from a c section is so long and difficult. I couldn't imagine looking after a 2 year old and a newborn while recovering from major surgery. The natural birth was a long horrible painful labour, but I would do it again over a c sec if we were having more kids.0 -
I might be wrong in thinking this and hopefully someone else can confirm or deny it. I'm under the impression that it's general practice to attempt a vaginal birth the first time you have a baby. However, if you end up having a c-section, it is recommended that all your other births after that will be a scheduled c-section because there's an increased risk of hemmoraging.
I don't have any children, but my sister has had two c-sections. After watching her recover from a c-section, I'd chose to have a baby naturally if I can. There's no point in getting cut open and dealing with painful recovery if you don't have to.
Nowadays having 1 C-section does not mean they all have to be. I very much plan on having a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) with my next baby. Although there is more risk associated with that, so you may have to search for a doctor who will do one, or you can go with a midwife (almost all of whom are willing to do so).
From my understanding a lot of insurance companies won't cover a VBAC due to the risk of complications.0 -
With my daughter (5) I was pretty ignorant and was induced and ended up having a c-section.
With my son (8mo) I wanted to try a vaginal delivery and the hospitals here wouldnt let you. So I did a lot of research and ended up having a home birth with a midwife. It was the most amazing experience.
My c-section was awful and made me feel like less of a woman for not being able to birth my own child. I got caught in the medication cycle in the hospital. It was not a c-section of necessity and medical emergency. It was a c-section created by the medical professionals that failed me.
C-sections are an amazing life saving surgery...when needed. Why anyone would think its better than having your baby the old fashioned way...I will never know0 -
I might be wrong in thinking this and hopefully someone else can confirm or deny it. I'm under the impression that it's general practice to attempt a vaginal birth the first time you have a baby. However, if you end up having a c-section, it is recommended that all your other births after that will be a scheduled c-section because there's an increased risk of hemmoraging.
I don't have any children, but my sister has had two c-sections. After watching her recover from a c-section, I'd chose to have a baby naturally if I can. There's no point in getting cut open and dealing with painful recovery if you don't have to.
Nowadays having 1 C-section does not mean they all have to be. I very much plan on having a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) with my next baby. Although there is more risk associated with that, so you may have to search for a doctor who will do one, or you can go with a midwife (almost all of whom are willing to do so).
From my understanding a lot of insurance companies won't cover a VBAC due to the risk of complications.
My total expense with a midwife for all my prenatal care and the delivery was only $3000...I wouldnt let insurance influence the decision to have a VBAC.0
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