Meat from the butchers

chunkychick10
chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
edited June 2019 in Food and Nutrition
My mum bought some slimming products from our local butcher and I asked for the nutritional info,so I could track calories etc but he sent me the following and it doesn't make any sense to me lol
Can anyone help me work out the calories?
Thanks

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  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
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  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    I'm confused, what "slimming products" do you get at a butcher? Is it meat of some kind?

    And I don't see calories on that label, which is what I'd be looking for.
  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
    The info above was for sausages
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    Actually, I suppose you can multiply the carbs and protein by 4 (4 calories per gram) and the total fat by 9 (9 cals per gram) to get the calories per 100g weighed out portion.
  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
    Oh really, I wasn't sure how I could work it out but thanks for the help!
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited June 2019
    Massive cross-post while I was doing the math, but see below:

    Yes, easiest if it has calories.

    If not, you can find the type of meat at the USDA site and then find the analogous entry on MFP, but to help more than that I'd have to know what type of meat it is. Is it sold as a "slimming product"?

    Hmm, looking at it further it has more carbs than meat would, so what is it? [Edit: like I said, cross-post, sausage makes sense]

    As a comparison, raw skinless boneless chicken breast is (per 100 g)

    Water: 73.9 g
    Protein: 22.5 g
    Fat:2.62 g
    Carbs:0.0 g

    Cals in the chicken breast is 120, which is 90 from protein and 24 from fat (not sure why it's a bit more, than that would suggest, but it's close).

    So for your product, I'd guess you could do the same and it comes to about 103 cal per 100 g (but as noted above with the chicken the actual cals seem to be a bit higher).
  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
    These were pork and chilli sausages. Sold as a 'guilt free' option for a slimming group my mum attends.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,422 Member
    edited June 2019
    It looks like the label is for 64 grams of sausage. So:

    14.2 grams of protein. Protein has 4 calories per gram, so 14.2 x 4 = 56.8

    2.3 grams fat. Fat = 9 calories per gram. 2.3 x 9 = 20.7

    6.3 grams carbs. Carbs = 4 calories per gram. 6.3 x 4 = 25.2

    56.8 + 20.7 + 25.2 = 102.5 calories

    That sounds about right for 64g of uncooked meat/lowfat sausage.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    It looks like the label is for 64 grams of sausage. So:

    14.2 grams of protein. Protein has 4 calories per gram, so 14.2 x 4 = 56.8

    2.3 grams fat. Fat = 9 calories per gram. 2.3 x 9 = 20.7

    6.3 grams carbs. Carbs = 4 calories per gram. 6.3 x 4 = 25.2

    56.8 + 20.7 + 25.2 = 102.5 calories

    That sounds about right for 64g of uncooked meat/lowfat sausage.

    But it's 100 grams of uncooked meat product (sausage), not 64 g. All those figures (14.2 g protein, 2.3 g fat, etc.) are per 100 g of product (which also has 74.7 g "moisture" and 2.5 g ash per 100 g).
  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
    So do you think the calories would be higher or lower then?
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited June 2019
    They should be what I figured out above, if cmriverside is right (I read it the same way). So 103 for 100 g. (That seems kind of low to me given the cals and other numbers for the boneless, skinless, chicken breast, but it's how the numbers you were given seem to work out.)
  • nooboots
    nooboots Posts: 480 Member
    Just as the first ones I found, these are pork and chilli sausages and have less 'carbs' in them than your butcher has analysed and the calories in those are 259 per 100g

    Is there a reason why he deems it guilt free (although I hate that sort of phasing)? Is it because they have less meat/fat per 100g than supermarket ones or more rusk/bread than supermarket ones?

    https://groceries.asda.com/product/view-all-sausages/asda-extra-special-6-pork-three-chilli-sausages/910001309160
  • chunkychick10
    chunkychick10 Posts: 15 Member
    He calls them guilt free as it's part of a slimming group called wst, bits abit like slimming world but has it's own names for things.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    Are they sitting in some kind of liquid in the package, or do they seem very soft and loose compared to standard sausage? That just seems like a pretty high proportion of "moisture". If they're sitting in liquid in the package, I would imagine that the weight of the liquid is counted toward the 100 g that has the 103 calories, and if you drain it and only weigh the sausage, the calorie count would be too low.
  • Cahgetsfit
    Cahgetsfit Posts: 1,912 Member
    My only comment is that when i'm needing to watch my calories, I never get sausage because I can never eat enough of them and keep within a reasonable calorie count. I get way more bang for my calorie buck eating lean steak or chicken (or even fatty chicken like chicken thighs) - as in can eat way more and has higher protein than 1 sausage.

    Am I the only person out there that can't just eat 1 sausage? Unless it's on a bread roll with onions and tomato sauce, I can't just eat ONE sausage.

    The butcher is a smart man catering to weight loss groups!
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited June 2019
    I actually only use sausage as a flavoring in things, so get away with quite a small amount (which is good since it's normally high cal, even the chicken ones, by comparison with many other thing). Exception is brats, which I'll eat on a bun, but just one (and mostly just for special occasions/get-togethers maybe 2x/year).

    The cals for pork sausage seem strangely low to me too, and I'm thinking Lynn may have a thought. It's hard to believe it would be lower cal than chicken breast or even a lean cut of pork on its own. Sure, the chilis are lower cal and add some bulk, but you typically need some fat for sausage.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    These were pork and chilli sausages. Sold as a 'guilt free' option for a slimming group my mum attends.

    Have you eaten it yet? How did it taste? With some foods, reducing calories means reducing flavor. I just eat a smaller serving of full fat pork sausage, and pair it with another protein source as I don't get enough protein otherwise.