Diet pop

mzmikly · July 2019

What are your opinions on diet pops?

bear2303 · July 2019

i have one when i'm craving something other than water. I can't stand bubbly waters so i go for a diet coke as a treat every once in a while. Doesn't seem to make me crave more sugar but I also don't go crazy, maybe only 3 cans a week?

TeaBea · July 2019

Are you allergic, or does fake sugar trigger headaches? Unless you feel diet soda contributes to over eating (it doesn't for me)....it's fine in moderation. My 2 cents.

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1

paperpudding · July 2019

My opinion is that it is a good option for those who want a no calorie drink and sometimes want something other than water.
Or want to cut calories by switching from regular to diet versions.
Or want a no calorie mixer for alcoholic drinks

Myself - all of the above.

If you dont like them or have adverse effects -dont drink them.

apullum · July 2019

I don’t like the taste of it, so I don’t drink it.

If you enjoy the taste and don’t have any allergies or sensitivities to any of the ingredients, then it’s fine to drink it.

Emmapatterson1729 · July 2019

After reading clinical research years ago, I wouldn't touch them.

Aspartame increases appetites in most, and in humans, the liver converts to formaldehyde. It leads to increased ALT levels, which can lead to fatty liver disease and other hepatic problems.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/29/aspartame-canderal-nutrasweet-etc-triggers-toxicity-liver

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300302/

Starts off going over clinical tests on mice, then gets to human testing and results.

o0kody0o · July 2019

I really enjoy drinking Diet Coke and Pepsi Max. I used to drink litres of the full sugar stuff then switched to sugar free. I’ve lost 41 pounds since February so I wouldn’t say it’s affected my weight loss. If I enjoy a certain food or drink, I have it.

missysippy930 · July 2019

If you like it, drink it.
I’ve been drinking Diet Pepsi for decades and have no medical issues, nor am I on any prescription medications. My drink of choice is mainly water now, but I always have Diet Pepsi in the house now and enjoy it once or twice a week.
I always wonder why people ask about diet pop, but not about the other no/low calorie beverages on the market, using the same sweeteners.

paperpudding · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

After reading clinical research years ago, I wouldn't touch them.

Aspartame increases appetites in most, and in humans, the liver converts to formaldehyde. It leads to increased ALT levels, which can lead to fatty liver disease and other hepatic problems.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/29/aspartame-canderal-nutrasweet-etc-triggers-toxicity-liver

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300302/

Starts off going over clinical tests on mice, then gets to human testing and results.

Yet strangely so many MFP users report that this appetite increasing effect doesn't happen to them - so not sure where these 'most people' are.

Sure, if it individually has that effect on you, don't drink it.

Have never found that effect myself nor had any abnormal liver function results - so will continue drinking pepsi max now and then.

Neightyre29 · July 2019

It gives me really bad stomach aches but when I'm really craving that bubbly I'll usually go for a can of full fat coke. One isn't gonna hurt. In fact, I used to eat 3x the amount of calories in "health coleslaw". Put that way, I wasn't so afraid of having the one can. I like cans because you can regulate better. I'd finish the whole bottle. I will have diet or coke zero as well although I prefer full fat.

corinasue1143 · July 2019

A long time ago, I drank way too much regular coke. The dietician suggested I switch to diet or unsweetened tea to save calories. I tried both, switched to tea. Now I will have a diet drink occasionally, but prefer tea.

kimny72 · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

After reading clinical research years ago, I wouldn't touch them.

Aspartame increases appetites in most, and in humans, the liver converts to formaldehyde. It leads to increased ALT levels, which can lead to fatty liver disease and other hepatic problems.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/29/aspartame-canderal-nutrasweet-etc-triggers-toxicity-liver

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300302/

Starts off going over clinical tests on mice, then gets to human testing and results.

Your creative first link doesn't actually take us to the study, it takes us to one of the responses to the study, which mostly links to books you can buy and in one place I believe equates Nutrasweet to virtual genocide. The actual study BMJ published said nothing about artificial sweeteners.

The second study was on 18 mice.

To any readers interested, the Why Aspartame Isn't Scary thread linked up thread has a ton of science to poke around in.

Artificial sweeteners have been common in the food supply for over 50 years. They are some of the most studied food additives in history. They are easy to fear monger, so they continue to be studied and still no verifiable or repeatable proof that they do harm.

Some people supposedly find they increase their appetite. I've never experienced that, but if you do, don't drink them. For some people they can be a migraine trigger. Some, like sugar alcohols, can cause some people digestive problems. Some people simply don't like the taste. I love Coke Zero and have found it quite helpful with weight maintenance. Usually one can a day. :drinker:

Emmapatterson1729 · July 2019

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0914/study_shows_aspartame_cau.html

This doctor has a ton of research links, studies, and results conveniently located in one page.

I'm not trying to be preachy. People on here are grown adults, so I don't care if you love and consume diet sodas, regular sodas, or a pack of Marlboros a day. Just trying to inform others of the truth and the corruption of US food industry.

Documentaries like Food.inc try and expose the corruptions and how much poison we're putting into our bodies.

Yes, they have been in our sodas and chewing gums for 40 years. For 40 years, I've watched society have increases in cancers, diabetes, obesity, and mental and behavioral disturbances. Like people now sitting at green lights (not on phone, just sitting there), a 20- 40 year old who can't remember why they got up to go to the kitchen. A society where everyone has health issues and pains like never seen before.

40 years ago, I knew no one with cancer, diabetes, fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, allergies, asthma, etc., and seeing someone obese was a rare thing, especially in elementary-high school children.

So, if I can inspire even one person to give up consuming lab-made chemicals and start feeling great, I'll keep posting unpopular views that get negative reactions by most.

I've said for years, in today's society, if consuming readily available and inexpensive foods available on American shelves (processed, modified, chemically enhanced) it's not a matter of if I get cancer, it's a matter of when.

nooboots · July 2019

I dont drink diet pop because I dont really drink pop.

However I cannot abide the taste of most 'diet' drinks so the odd occasion when I will have some soft drinks its normally a normal coke. I cant drink lemonade as that also has sweetners in it, even if its not the diet version which annoys me. At home I have fizzy water with lime juice squeezed into it, very refreshing.

glassyo · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0914/study_shows_aspartame_cau.html

This doctor has a ton of research links, studies, and results conveniently located in one page.

I'm not trying to be preachy. People on here are grown adults, so I don't care if you love and consume diet sodas, regular sodas, or a pack of Marlboros a day. Just trying to inform others of the truth and the corruption of US food industry.

Documentaries like Food.inc try and expose the corruptions and how much poison we're putting into our bodies.

Yes, they have been in our sodas and chewing gums for 40 years. For 40 years, I've watched society have increases in cancers, diabetes, obesity, and mental and behavioral disturbances. Like people now sitting at green lights (not on phone, just sitting there), a 20- 40 year old who can't remember why they got up to go to the kitchen. A society where everyone has health issues and pains like never seen before.

40 years ago, I knew no one with cancer, diabetes, fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, allergies, asthma, etc., and seeing someone obese was a rare thing, especially in elementary-high school children.

So, if I can inspire even one person to give up consuming lab-made chemicals and start feeling great, I'll keep posting unpopular views that get negative reactions by most.

I've said for years, in today's society, if consuming readily available and inexpensive foods available on American shelves (processed, modified, chemically enhanced) it's not a matter of if I get cancer, it's a matter of when.

Have you googled your source? First link that comes up is how she has a fake doctorate.

cwolfman13 · July 2019

glassyo wrote: »

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0914/study_shows_aspartame_cau.html

This doctor has a ton of research links, studies, and results conveniently located in one page.

I'm not trying to be preachy. People on here are grown adults, so I don't care if you love and consume diet sodas, regular sodas, or a pack of Marlboros a day. Just trying to inform others of the truth and the corruption of US food industry.

Documentaries like Food.inc try and expose the corruptions and how much poison we're putting into our bodies.

Yes, they have been in our sodas and chewing gums for 40 years. For 40 years, I've watched society have increases in cancers, diabetes, obesity, and mental and behavioral disturbances. Like people now sitting at green lights (not on phone, just sitting there), a 20- 40 year old who can't remember why they got up to go to the kitchen. A society where everyone has health issues and pains like never seen before.

40 years ago, I knew no one with cancer, diabetes, fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, allergies, asthma, etc., and seeing someone obese was a rare thing, especially in elementary-high school children.

So, if I can inspire even one person to give up consuming lab-made chemicals and start feeling great, I'll keep posting unpopular views that get negative reactions by most.

I've said for years, in today's society, if consuming readily available and inexpensive foods available on American shelves (processed, modified, chemically enhanced) it's not a matter of if I get cancer, it's a matter of when.

Have you googled your source? First link that comes up is how she has a fake doctorate.

Likely not...

psuLemon · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

After reading clinical research years ago, I wouldn't touch them.

Aspartame increases appetites in most, and in humans, the liver converts to formaldehyde. It leads to increased ALT levels, which can lead to fatty liver disease and other hepatic problems.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/29/aspartame-canderal-nutrasweet-etc-triggers-toxicity-liver

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300302/

Starts off going over clinical tests on mice, then gets to human testing and results.

50 years of research demonstrate the aspartame is safe. Its recommended by a plethora of organizations as a replacement for full sugar juices and soda.

And in order to get the cancer causing effects in the study, one would have to consume 17 2L bottles a day.

lauragreenbaum · July 2019

mzmikly wrote: »

What are your opinions on diet pops?

You're from the Midwest or Canada right? I grew up in Michigan where we called it "pop". Moved to California and learned they call it "soda". Funny. I do love Fresca, but the fake sugar does concern me, so I limit myself to only the occasional can.

nooboots · July 2019

I thought it was a British term, people in the north or older people call soft drinks 'pop'.

Motorsheen · July 2019

..... all things in moderation.

Diet Soda-Pop, I try not to have it in the house.
Maybe having one at lunch once a week when at a restaurant or a taco stand.

Is it healthy ? probably not.

Is it a great evil ? probably not.

earlnabby · July 2019

Diet soda/pop is neutral. It adds no nutritional benefit and adds hydration but it does no harm for most people. Drink it if you like it, avoid it if you don't.

I grew up drinking pop but moved 80 miles east to Milwaukee and started drinking soda. Wisconsin is a weird state. Old time Door County (the little thumb that sticks out into Lake Michigan) residents call all soft drinks coke.

paperpudding · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0914/study_shows_aspartame_cau.html

This doctor has a ton of research links, studies, and results conveniently located in one page.

I'm not trying to be preachy. People on here are grown adults, so I don't care if you love and consume diet sodas, regular sodas, or a pack of Marlboros a day. Just trying to inform others of the truth and the corruption of US food industry.

Documentaries like Food.inc try and expose the corruptions and how much poison we're putting into our bodies.

Yes, they have been in our sodas and chewing gums for 40 years. For 40 years, I've watched society have increases in cancers, diabetes, obesity, and mental and behavioral disturbances. Like people now sitting at green lights (not on phone, just sitting there), a 20- 40 year old who can't remember why they got up to go to the kitchen. A society where everyone has health issues and pains like never seen before.

40 years ago, I knew no one with cancer, diabetes, fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, allergies, asthma, etc., and seeing someone obese was a rare thing, especially in elementary-high school children.

So, if I can inspire even one person to give up consuming lab-made chemicals and start feeling great, I'll keep posting unpopular views that get negative reactions by most.

I've said for years, in today's society, if consuming readily available and inexpensive foods available on American shelves (processed, modified, chemically enhanced) it's not a matter of if I get cancer, it's a matter of when.

I dont think everybody has pains and medical issues like never seen before.

I dont need to give up diet pop to feel great - in fact I feel no different since I started drinking it 6 years ago.

and lots of people had asthma, cancer etc 40 years ago.

Obesity was less, I agree - but nothing to suggest it is more now because of diet sodas coming onto the scene 4o years ago.

Could just as likely be because mobile phones, skinny jeans, DVD's, came on to the scene - none of above were around 40 years ago either.

Unless all other things are equal, and more people who drink diet soda get more of above diseases than people who dont, then it proves, or even suggests, nothing.

You are not informing others of the truth - you are informing others of your unfounded opinions.

Muscleflex79 · July 2019

Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://www.sweetpoison.com/articles/0914/study_shows_aspartame_cau.html

This doctor has a ton of research links, studies, and results conveniently located in one page.

I'm not trying to be preachy. People on here are grown adults, so I don't care if you love and consume diet sodas, regular sodas, or a pack of Marlboros a day. Just trying to inform others of the truth and the corruption of US food industry.

Documentaries like Food.inc try and expose the corruptions and how much poison we're putting into our bodies.

Yes, they have been in our sodas and chewing gums for 40 years. For 40 years, I've watched society have increases in cancers, diabetes, obesity, and mental and behavioral disturbances. Like people now sitting at green lights (not on phone, just sitting there), a 20- 40 year old who can't remember why they got up to go to the kitchen. A society where everyone has health issues and pains like never seen before.

40 years ago, I knew no one with cancer, diabetes, fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, allergies, asthma, etc., and seeing someone obese was a rare thing, especially in elementary-high school children.

So, if I can inspire even one person to give up consuming lab-made chemicals and start feeling great, I'll keep posting unpopular views that get negative reactions by most.

I've said for years, in today's society, if consuming readily available and inexpensive foods available on American shelves (processed, modified, chemically enhanced) it's not a matter of if I get cancer, it's a matter of when.

so much garbage in one post - have you ever considered that correlation does not equal causation? and you need to work on getting better scientific backing to your "views."

Nessaleesee · July 2019

I used to be a daily diet soda drinker. I switched to flavored sparkling water for the month of January and for some reason this year I broke the soda habit. Now I just have it occasionally if I’m eating out for lunch. I almost never have it by itself because it makes me hungry. I just feel better mentally about replacing diet soda with water, I’ve realized that I don’t crave the caffeine or the taste anymore. Now if only I could do the same thing with French fries....

FibroHiker · July 2019

When I first lost weight years ago I had bad habits of drinking too much juice and regular soda on a weekly basis. One month I decided to give up fruit juice and soda in exchange for water. If I was really craving a soda I would have a diet one. That really helped me to switch over and cut out the extra calories and sugar from my diet. I didn't drink diet soda too often, just as a treat or for a change of pace.

Now since I don't drink soda hardly at all I drink regular soda mostly. I prefer not to have artificial sweeteners in my diet and since I know I only drink soda once every 1-2 months, it doesn't have much effect on my overall diet.

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