My knees & Running?
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kristiannanw
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I need advice...I recently just started increasing the amount ive been running (jogging). I am trying to do it at least 4 days a week and right now im mostly just running one mile and slowly trying to build up to more (my breathing is another issue)
I ran 1 mile Saturday, Sunday, and then Tuesday I ran a mile and a quarter.
Pretty much immediately after on Tuesday my knees were very sore. They are still sore especially up and down stairs. It is both knees but my right seems to be a bit more so.
I have good sneakers (new balance running with plenty of miles left on them) and am running on a high school track. My knees gas ce been sore after running before but not to this extent.
Could this be "normal" growing pains?" Have I increased my activity too fast?
Should I be worried? How do I know if it is significant?
Im going to take a day off and for the rest of the week do other forms of cardio like the elliptical but I really didn't know where else to turn to for advice.
Thank you in advance!
I ran 1 mile Saturday, Sunday, and then Tuesday I ran a mile and a quarter.
Pretty much immediately after on Tuesday my knees were very sore. They are still sore especially up and down stairs. It is both knees but my right seems to be a bit more so.
I have good sneakers (new balance running with plenty of miles left on them) and am running on a high school track. My knees gas ce been sore after running before but not to this extent.
Could this be "normal" growing pains?" Have I increased my activity too fast?
Should I be worried? How do I know if it is significant?
Im going to take a day off and for the rest of the week do other forms of cardio like the elliptical but I really didn't know where else to turn to for advice.
Thank you in advance!
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If you are new to running, and especially if you're new to exercise, then your current plan is almost certainly too much too soon. Follow a structured training program like C25K.
You also need to be fitted for running shoes if you haven't already. Go to your local running store and get fitted. It's not enough to just buy new name brand shoes; you need shoes that are suited for your feet and gait.3 -
If you are new to running, and especially if you're new to exercise, then your current plan is almost certainly too much too soon. Follow a structured training program like C25K.
I have been increasing my cardio for months but other methods such as hiit and elliptical. But have only been doing the actual jogging for a month or so.0 -
kristiannanw wrote: »If you are new to running, and especially if you're new to exercise, then your current plan is almost certainly too much too soon. Follow a structured training program like C25K.
I have been increasing my cardio for months but other methods such as hiit and elliptical. But have only been doing the actual jogging for a month or so.
You need to follow a training plan, not just go out and run a mile a few times a week. C25K is a very popular one.5 -
Drop the HIIT, it isn't helping you.
Try running on softer ground. You'll go slower, but it will be much easier on your joints.
I agree about C25k. Even though you've been exercising a running is new to you and it's stressful on the body (joints!) in ways you're not accustomed to yet. It takes time.
Also consider riding a bike, which is all of the fun with none of the impact ... tight up to the moment when it has all of the impact. 😉1 -
Running is a whole different thing than other forms of cardio and well worth the effort IMO. The reason c25k is so highly recommended is because it works. It helps condition your body not only to the cardio demands but also the impact from the road. Beginner runners are prone to injury by doing too much too soon.
On a personal note, I started c25k in February and completed it in the prescribed 9 weeks. It’s an amazing program. I wasn’t coming from the couch since I had built a good walking base (and other cardio). I did experience knee and hip pain early on and took the extra time to rest before running again. But most importantly I slowed down. A lot! REALLY SLOWLY running. I felt like my neighbors were watching me and saying “Is running in slow motion?” while scratching their heads. Then I hit the end of week 5 and I ran for 20 consecutive minutes! A few weeks later I ran for 30 minutes! I felt amazing! Several months later and I now attend a free 5k weekly Parkrun. I’ve connected with other runners in my community. And I decided to train for a 10k. Then I started doing too much too soon instead of just following the program. And here I sit with a painful hip. And it’s my fault. I should have followed the program. I’ll get through it. I’m resting and pouting and following the advice of the seasoned runners by taking it easy.
If you don’t want to do c25k, look for another structured beginner program. You might even have a beginner program at your local running club. But take it easy. Don’t be me.2 -
kristiannanw wrote: »I need advice...I recently just started increasing the amount ive been running (jogging). I am trying to do it at least 4 days a week and right now im mostly just running one mile and slowly trying to build up to more (my breathing is another issue)
I ran 1 mile Saturday, Sunday, and then Tuesday I ran a mile and a quarter.
Pretty much immediately after on Tuesday my knees were very sore. They are still sore especially up and down stairs. It is both knees but my right seems to be a bit more so.
I have good sneakers (new balance running with plenty of miles left on them) and am running on a high school track. My knees gas ce been sore after running before but not to this extent.
Could this be "normal" growing pains?" Have I increased my activity too fast?
Should I be worried? How do I know if it is significant?
Im going to take a day off and for the rest of the week do other forms of cardio like the elliptical but I really didn't know where else to turn to for advice.
Thank you in advance!
New Balance may make good shoes but are they good shoes for 'you'? The best shoes are ones that are made for your gait. New Balance and others make many models all aimed at slightly different types of runners.
I agree with others - Get on a plan. The only thing that helps with running is running. No matter how fit you are if you haven't been running you will run into issues if you go to far and too fast.
Good luck.1 -
What do you do to warm up and cool down? Knee pain can often be caused by issues with surrounding muscles and tissues.0
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I ran cross country and coach long distance running.
I agree with a lot of posters here. Get to fleet feet and have them suggest a shoe after watching you run. Shoes are a must to avoid injury.
Proper warm up and cool down activities are also a must and the type of workout and pacing you choose can impact you. I totally get how we think mileage and time are indicators of growth...but they can also lead to focus on the wrong things in training and building endurance...that’s why a training program is beneficial bc most people have not been trained in how to coach long distance running.
I have years of experience running competitively. I also am a teacher who coaches long distance running (read several books, and took some college courses on coaching). I would never suggest simply increasing the distance or speed for training. Especially in the beginning, we focus more on run time and type of running than distance and activities that ensure proper form. I can suggest some wonderful training plans for running, but I need to know your goals—are you looking to build up to a half marathon, or other road races? Are you looking to be competitive or simply healthy? What are your exact goals?
Someone suggested softer turf, which a track is pretty soft, but not the softest. If it’s a synthetic track—that’s better for speed training, so that’s the appropriate place for shorter distance interval training. A cinder track is better, but can get too slick in the summer heat or in rain. Grass is absolutely the best...or trails. So hit your local parks for runs if you can. Also, for now, try to make your runs flat and slowly add in hills...running a hill correctly takes lots of training and can be a huge cause of injury. I will say, people to exaggerate the impact of running surface so it might not make a dramatic difference in your knees, but certainly try it out.
Avoid HIIT training for the legs if you are working on becoming a runner—that will kill the condition of your legs over time and you will hurt yourself. Core and arm HIIT might help improve your form—but if you’re mixing leg HIIT and running, that’s going to lead to pain. There are different forms of interval training for long distance running, such as Fartlek running. Do appropriate interval training for running, not HIIT. Save the squats for appropriate warm ups and cool downs on a training plan where appropriate—not as intensity workouts.
is the pain in the front or back/side part of the knee? (Does it hurt when you apply pressure to the kneecap (front) or the little bump on the side of your knee? Does it hurt more going up or down stairs?). You could be developing a common condition known as Runners Knee (different varieties based on where the pain is).
If so, scale back right away, ice, compress, elevate, and heal. A lot of stuff online will tell you it’s hip weakness or imbalance and to work on that area...but that’s not really proven science and I have plenty of teen runners without hip weakness that have issue with this. If you’re really overweight or out of shape, you might need some hip training to help reduce. Best bet is to slow it down and do a proper training plan as others have suggested. It’s likely fact that you’re increasing your volume too quickly that is causing this. But, a slower pace can actually cause back knee pain, which is why I’m asking exactly where the pain is.
Go to a running store and get analyzed...ask them about your form and improving it while getting proper shoes ($150 shoes like Brooks last me years and prevent injury so it’s worth it). The way you roll on your foot can cause knee issues...if you’re leaning too far forward/backward or not swinging your arms enough to build proper stride and form—that can also cause these issues.
I’d give yourself a few days off at this point. If it’s in the front part of your knee, the elliptical can make the injury worse, so I don’t recommend. Try a few different ellipticals and choose one with a stride that doesn’t hurt your knee at all, run forwards and backwards to also see which is less painful. If you have ANY pain using the elliptical during or after the workout, STOP. If you let this perpetuate you could require surgery and much more time away from the gym.
Sorry for the long post...I cracked my kneecap as a teen, and it impacts my knee pain a lot in my adulthood—so I feel you. Very hard to upkeep running with knee pain!
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Personally, I love running, but running doesn't love me. It's the one exercise I'm just horribly injury prone at. Rock tape and compression sleeves help, but not enough. I find running occasionally is fine, but anything regular (even sitting at step 1 of c25k) causes issues, so now I just listen to my body and do what it's comfortable doing.
Good luck finding what works for you.
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