Bulk yet or cut more?

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Dear Internet. Firstly, sorry for the pics, but what is seen cannot be unseen. Ok background..... Been lifting on and off for a while. Kind of yo yoing. Basicaly i bulked too quick. Seriously, a lb a week does NOT work for me. So i then decided i shall lose the fat and start again with a smaller surplus and just go aim for a few lbs a month. Big question.... I know youve been waiting for it..... Do you think im in a position where i should start that small surplus. My reasoning is a) i could use some damn muscle and b) i could use e some damn muscle. Im 6ft tall, 150lbs, 33-34 inch waist. With some side boob sagage.... See pics again. Anyway guys. Cheers for reading this far. Speak 0pne0w3dz0up.jpg
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  • wiigelec
    wiigelec Posts: 503 Member
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    Lifting what?

    What are you going to cut down to, your skeleton?

    https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Basic-Barbell-Training/dp/0982522738

    +GOMAD for a few months

    I'm only telling you this because I wish someone had told me 20 years ago when I was in your shoes...
  • manowarrule2003
    manowarrule2003 Posts: 118 Member
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    wiigelec wrote: »
    Lifting what?

    What are you going to cut down to, your skeleton?

    https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Basic-Barbell-Training/dp/0982522738

    +GOMAD for a few months

    I'm only telling you this because I wish someone had told me 20 years ago when I was in your shoes...

    Thank you sir. The world needs more honest people like you. The bulk is on!
  • wiigelec
    wiigelec Posts: 503 Member
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    This may be of some assistance in your endeavor:

    https://startingstrength.com/article/a_clarification
  • chrishamilton894
    chrishamilton894 Posts: 63 Member
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    Definitely bulk!! Lift and lift heavy. Like Eddie Hall heavy lol. Bench press, squats etc. Bang on that muscle, wish I had started what I’m doing now 20 years ago. My body structure would be a lot different. 👍
  • billkansas
    billkansas Posts: 267 Member
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    Another vote for "Starting Strength" and bulk. Don't waste your time getting overly complicated... squat, deadlift, bench, press, (maybe clean, maybe chins), repeat. Once you run the basics dry and can't add weight to these lifts then you can start throwing in the extras (dumbbells, funky bodybuilder stuff, etc.)
  • manowarrule2003
    manowarrule2003 Posts: 118 Member
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    Cheers fellas for the replies. Been looking at it. I love the look of no bs approach. Keep it simple
  • wiigelec
    wiigelec Posts: 503 Member
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    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/post/quote/10759966/Comment_44065828

    I agree do the basic strength and building exercises. Try compound sets too, exhaust the muscle and then give it a week before you train that muscle again. For example, me I do a 3 day split.
    Legs, shoulders, abs
    Chest, back, abs
    Biceps, triceps, abs
    I do 4 exercises x3 sets for that muscle group. Then give it a week to recover. Legs are still aching after a heavy session 2 days later 👍
    And how is that working out for you?

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10760062/bench-press

    Just buy the book and do what it says...

  • Buff_Man
    Buff_Man Posts: 622 Member
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    You're a newbie so if you stick to a good programme where you're lifting 3 or 4 times a week, eating enough protein and in a modest surplus, you will make the best gains of your life. As long as you are consistent you will see great progress. It's very simple but not easy.
  • wiigelec
    wiigelec Posts: 503 Member
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    Buff_Man wrote: »
    You're a newbie so if you stick to a good programme where you're lifting 3 or 4 times a week, eating enough protein and in a modest surplus, you will make the best gains of your life. As long as you are consistent you will see great progress. It's very simple but not easy.
    Well said Buff_Man...

  • evilokc
    evilokc Posts: 260 Member
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    I did a really good cut 3 years ago. what I learned was that I didn't have the muscular base to look lean. I just looked skinny. I went back to lifting heavy and a year later cut again with much better results. work on your muscular base. even with some extra body fat you will see larger muscles poking out. you got this man.
  • manowarrule2003
    manowarrule2003 Posts: 118 Member
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    Yep. Good advice fellas. Ive embraced it, happy to not be yo yo-ing. Think honestly I just needed telling. Gotta love the internet for honest, unbiased opinions. Thanks again everyone.
  • elfin168
    elfin168 Posts: 202 Member
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    I say dont bulk. I say start lifting and eating more. Gradually. You have the advantage of male hormones on your size. I reakon you will look pretty good pretty quick if you take it slow without going overboard and 'bulking"
  • Theoldguy1
    Theoldguy1 Posts: 2,454 Member
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    wiigelec wrote: »
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/post/quote/10759966/Comment_44065828

    I agree do the basic strength and building exercises. Try compound sets too, exhaust the muscle and then give it a week before you train that muscle again. For example, me I do a 3 day split.
    Legs, shoulders, abs
    Chest, back, abs
    Biceps, triceps, abs
    I do 4 exercises x3 sets for that muscle group. Then give it a week to recover. Legs are still aching after a heavy session 2 days later 👍
    And how is that working out for you?

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10760062/bench-press

    Just buy the book and do what it says...
    jdog022 wrote: »
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/post/quote/10759966/Comment_44065828

    I agree do the basic strength and building exercises. Try compound sets too, exhaust the muscle and then give it a week before you train that muscle again. For example, me I do a 3 day split.
    Legs, shoulders, abs
    Chest, back, abs
    Biceps, triceps, abs
    I do 4 exercises x3 sets for that muscle group. Then give it a week to recover. Legs are still aching after a heavy session 2 days later 👍

    Frequency of 2x to 3x a week has shown to be significantly more optimal in natural lifters especially novice. Eric Helms or Brad shoenfield have talked about this many times but I don’t have a link handy at the moment. I agree with starting strength or even something like fierce 5 for now

    Personally my lifts sky rocketed once I stopped bro splitting

    Agree with the frequency comment. Virtually all programs and advice from researchers will have a lifter training a muscle group 2-3X a week.
  • steveko89
    steveko89 Posts: 2,216 Member
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    "bulking" doesn't have to mean eat-all-the-things-try-to-turn-into-the-hulk-overnight. Get stronger by following a proven program for your lifting level (hitting all muscles 2-3x/week as others suggested), adequate protein, while eating with a mild surplus and adequate protein will start you on the path you seem to want to go.