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September 2019 Biking Cycling Bicycling Bike/ Bicycle/Unicycle/Tricycle Challenge!
Machka9
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If you are new to posting on this thread, or if you are new to cycling, We welcome you! If you are returning from a previous thread, We welcome you, too.
This thread is for anyone who rides a bicycle ... or unicycle, tricycle, tandem, etc.
Do you bike to work? Do you pull your children to the park? So you ride weekends? Do you spin at home or in the gym? Is Zwift your thing? Do you race crits, ironman, or centuries? Or, are you just starting out and remembering how much fun you had biking when you were a kid? However you choose to push your pedal, you are welcome on this thread.
There's no set challenge across participants - this is a mixed-ability / mixed-experience / everyone welcome group. Just pick your own target that you want to achieve this month, post that when you join the thread, and post updates throughout the month as you're working towards your target.
Step into Sept!
(BTW - Thanks to @CricketKate for starting all this back in 2012)
This thread is for anyone who rides a bicycle ... or unicycle, tricycle, tandem, etc.
Do you bike to work? Do you pull your children to the park? So you ride weekends? Do you spin at home or in the gym? Is Zwift your thing? Do you race crits, ironman, or centuries? Or, are you just starting out and remembering how much fun you had biking when you were a kid? However you choose to push your pedal, you are welcome on this thread.
There's no set challenge across participants - this is a mixed-ability / mixed-experience / everyone welcome group. Just pick your own target that you want to achieve this month, post that when you join the thread, and post updates throughout the month as you're working towards your target.
Step into Sept!
(BTW - Thanks to @CricketKate for starting all this back in 2012)
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Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 0.0
Walking Time (min): 0.0
Cycling Distance (km): 0.0
Cycling Time (min): 0.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 0.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 0.0
Rowing Distance (km): 0.0
Rowing Time (min): 0.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 0.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 0.0
Total Distance (miles): 0.0
Total Time (min): 0.0
Total Time (hr): 0:00:00
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Now I want a tricycle0
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NoHookUpZone wrote: »Now I want a tricycle
My father has a Catrike.
He's had it for years, but is using it now because of various eye surgeries.
https://www.catrike.com/0 -
If any of you are on Strava, they're having a challenge in September too ...
https://www.strava.com/challenges/the-escape-plan
Get moving 5 days a week for 4 consecutive weeks - all activity types count
(Minimum of 15 minutes of elapsed time per activity)1 -
Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
Sunday, 1 September 2019 … 5.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 2 September 2019 … 4.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + pilates
Tuesday, 3 September 2019 … 6.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 4 September 2019 … 2.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.4 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 5 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 20.9
Walking Time (min): 252.3
Cycling Distance (km): 0.0
Cycling Time (min): 0.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 20.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 16.0
Rowing Distance (km): 4.9
Rowing Time (min): 33.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 30.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 25.8
Total Distance (miles): 16.0
Total Time (min): 331.3
Total Time (hr): 5:31:15
And we're off and running ... or walking as the case may be!0 -
Slightly odd goal this month - to cycle 477 miles.
(It just takes me to a nice round figure in Strava!)
Struggling a bit with the ongoing conflict of strength training my legs for knee ligament rehab and cycling, takes the edge off my performance, typically feel it half way up a hill....
That's my excuse anyway and I'm sticking to it.
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If any of you are on Strava, they're having a challenge in September too ...
https://www.strava.com/challenges/the-escape-plan
Get moving 5 days a week for 4 consecutive weeks - all activity types count
(Minimum of 15 minutes of elapsed time per activity)
I signed up for it.
Sept 1 - 8 trail miles
Sept 2 - 4.5 trail miles
Sept 3 - 4.5 trail miles
Sept 5 - 6 trail miles
Trying to make up for not riding for 5 weeks!1 -
165 miles for the week (and the month so far).
Longest ride was a 100km solo ride.2 -
Been on a climbing binge. 15h30, 357km with 5681metres of elevation for September so far.2
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Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
Sunday, 1 September 2019 … 5.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 2 September 2019 … 4.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + pilates
Tuesday, 3 September 2019 … 6.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 4 September 2019 … 2.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.4 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 5 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 6 September 2019 … 2.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 7 September 2019 … 2.1 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 8 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 10.2 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 9 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 10 September 2019 … 5.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 11 September 2019 … 6.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 40.5
Walking Time (min): 499.6
Cycling Distance (km): 10.2
Cycling Time (min): 42.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 30.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 24.0
Rowing Distance (km): 4.9
Rowing Time (min): 33.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 30.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 55.6
Total Distance (miles): 34.5
Total Time (min): 628.6
Total Time (hr): 10:28:37
And we're off and running ... or walking as the case may be!0 -
Quiet cycling week for me with only 61 miles. 226 for the month.
Examination by two separate Physios which involved pulling and twisting my injured knee to try and see if there's cartilage damage as well as the ligament injury was inconclusive but made my knee very sore.
Seems positively archaic in the 21st century to be diagnosing injury by inflicting pain.....0 -
12.3 agonizing miles for me this morning.1
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Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
Sunday, 1 September 2019 … 5.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 2 September 2019 … 4.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + pilates
Tuesday, 3 September 2019 … 6.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 4 September 2019 … 2.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.4 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 5 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 6 September 2019 … 2.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 7 September 2019 … 2.1 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 8 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 10.2 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 9 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 10 September 2019 … 5.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 11 September 2019 … 6.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 12 September 2019 … 3.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Friday, 13 September 2019 … 1.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 14 September 2019 … 1.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 15 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 16 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 17 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 18 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Thursday, 19 September 2019 … 2.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 51.5
Walking Time (min): 639.6
Cycling Distance (km): 10.2
Cycling Time (min): 42.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 34.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 27.2
Rowing Distance (km): 4.9
Rowing Time (min): 33.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 30.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 66.5
Total Distance (miles): 41.3
Total Time (min): 771.8
Total Time (hr): 12:51:50
Bit of a slow-down. I thought I'd escaped the winter cold/flu. But nope. Hopefully it'll be a better week next week.0 -
Quiet cycling week for me with only 61 miles. 226 for the month.
Examination by two separate Physios which involved pulling and twisting my injured knee to try and see if there's cartilage damage as well as the ligament injury was inconclusive but made my knee very sore.
Seems positively archaic in the 21st century to be diagnosing injury by inflicting pain.....
I thought the same thing when my physios were doing something similar with my right hip.
Fortunately an MRI was ordered.1 -
Saturday -- easing back into it ...
Cycling
Distance: 11.18km
Elevation: 77m
Moving Time: 44:16
Elapsed Time: 47:21
Speed: Avg: 15.2km/h | Max: 28.1km/h
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Only 50 miles this week.
Seemed to come down with a bug which had me feeling ultra fatgued on what was just an easy paced ride so took some days off the bike and exercise in general.
And then I got hit by a car!
Having big lungs isn't just a fitness advantage - also gives me a very loud shout.
Loud enough to make the car driver hit the brakes instead of the accelerator when he seemed determined to T-bone me at a junction.
Glad I reacted very quickly and swerved away enough to reduce the contact down to a slight bump and managed to unclip as well to avoid being knocked over. No damage done but it was a close call.
Driver couldn't explain how he didn't see me on a day with perfect visibility when I'm dressed in bright clothing and even having flashing lights.0 -
Only 50 miles this week.
Seemed to come down with a bug which had me feeling ultra fatgued on what was just an easy paced ride so took some days off the bike and exercise in general.
And then I got hit by a car!
Having big lungs isn't just a fitness advantage - also gives me a very loud shout.
Loud enough to make the car driver hit the brakes instead of the accelerator when he seemed determined to T-bone me at a junction.
Glad I reacted very quickly and swerved away enough to reduce the contact down to a slight bump and managed to unclip as well to avoid being knocked over. No damage done but it was a close call.
Driver couldn't explain how he didn't see me on a day with perfect visibility when I'm dressed in bright clothing and even having flashing lights.
That's not good!0 -
Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
Sunday, 1 September 2019 … 5.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 2 September 2019 … 4.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + pilates
Tuesday, 3 September 2019 … 6.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 4 September 2019 … 2.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.4 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 5 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 6 September 2019 … 2.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 7 September 2019 … 2.1 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 8 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 10.2 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 9 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 10 September 2019 … 5.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 11 September 2019 … 6.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 12 September 2019 … 3.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Friday, 13 September 2019 … 1.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 14 September 2019 … 1.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 15 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 16 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 17 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 18 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Thursday, 19 September 2019 … 2.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 20 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Saturday, 21 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 11.1 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 22 September 2019 … 1.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 23 September 2019 … 4.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + Pilates!
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 61.2
Walking Time (min): 761.8
Cycling Distance (km): 21.3
Cycling Time (min): 86.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 42.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 33.6
Rowing Distance (km): 4.9
Rowing Time (min): 33.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 60.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 87.4
Total Distance (miles): 54.3
Total Time (min): 974.4
Total Time (hr): 16:14:21
Crawling along.0 -
Saturday we cycled!
Distance: 12.28 km
Elevation: 90 m
Moving Time: 49:08
Elapsed Time 54:25
Speed: Avg: 15.0 km/h | Max: 27.7 km/h
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Sunday -- another bicycle ride outside.
Distance: 12.34km
Elevation: 102m
Moving Time: 46:41
Elapsed Time: 47:25
Speed: Avg: 15.9km/h | Max: 30.6km/h
Plus rowing 2000 metres!0 -
Very poor exercise week - I've managed to add to my knee woes with fat pad (a.k.a. Hoffa's pad) impingment.
Although it's not serious it is very painful and limited my exercise including cycling, just 41 miles in a couple of rides.0 -
Jan-19 ... 241.6 km (150.1 miles) = 27 hours 2 minutes
Feb-19 ... 175.5 km (109 miles) = 19 hours 8 minutes
Mar-19 ... 170.3 km (105.8 miles) = 28 hours 21 minutes
Apr-19 ... 160.3 km (99.6 miles) = 25 hours 4 minutes
May-19 ... 164.0 km (101.9 miles) = 29 hours 10 minutes
Jun-19 ... 246.2 km (153 miles) = 25 hours 40 minutes
Jul-19 ... 217.3 km (135.0 miles) = 33 hours 45 minutes
Aug-19 ... 162.5 km (100.9 miles) = 28 hours 4 minutes
Goal: More than August!!
Sunday, 1 September 2019 … 5.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 2 September 2019 … 4.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + pilates
Tuesday, 3 September 2019 … 6.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 4 September 2019 … 2.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.4 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 5 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 6 September 2019 … 2.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 7 September 2019 … 2.1 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 8 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 10.2 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 9 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 10 September 2019 … 5.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 11 September 2019 … 6.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 6 flights of stairs
Thursday, 12 September 2019 … 3.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Friday, 13 September 2019 … 1.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Saturday, 14 September 2019 … 1.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 15 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 16 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Tuesday, 17 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 18 September 2019 … 1.2 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Thursday, 19 September 2019 … 2.5 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Friday, 20 September 2019 … 3.6 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Saturday, 21 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 11.1 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 22 September 2019 … 1.3 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 23 September 2019 … 4.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs + Pilates!
Tuesday, 24 September 2019 … 3.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 4 flights of stairs
Wednesday, 25 September 2019 … 3.4 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 10 flights of stairs
Thursday, 26 September 2019 … 4.9 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 10 flights of stairs
Friday, 27 September 2019 … 1.8 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 2.5 km rowing + 14 flights of stairs
Saturday, 28 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 12.3 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Sunday, 29 September 2019 … 0.0 km walking + 12.3 km cycling + 2.0 km rowing + 0 flights of stairs
Monday, 30 September 2019 … 6.0 km walking + 0.0 km cycling + 0.0 km rowing + 14 flights of stairs
2019 Monthly September
Walking Distance (km): 80.7
Walking Time (min): 1005.8
Cycling Distance (km): 45.9
Cycling Time (min): 181.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Number: 102.0
Flights Stairs Climbed Time (min): 81.6
Rowing Distance (km): 9.4
Rowing Time (min): 62.0
Other Distance: 0.0
Other Time: 60.0
Totals
Total Distance (km): 136.0
Total Distance (miles): 84.5
Total Time (min): 1390.4
Total Time (hr): 23:10:21
Not one of my better months, but the flu in the middle of the month will do that sometimes.0 -
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