Ketogenic diet

Jassaph · December 2019

Hey guys, recently I discovered a group involved in Ketogenic diet and it's really been working for them. I found out the meals they ate was highly proteinous which is what i really want but am worried about all that fat involved in the meals. Please I want to know if anyone has ever gone on this diet before and your opinions about this diet, thank you

DanMillward68 · December 2019

In my personal opinion (and 99.9% of this forum are more experienced than me!) every diet with a particular way of eating or particular name has one thing in common.. Lowering calories.

Keto for example seems to lower calories coming from carbs.

That's just what I have picked up on whilst researching.

paperpudding · December 2019

I'm not sure why you are going on a keto diet if you are worried about all that fat in the meals.

That's what keto is - low carb, high fat.

Quite a few keto followers on this forum - but I am not one of them.

apullum · December 2019

Many people follow this diet. It is no better or worse for weight loss than any other diet, because specific diets do not cause fat loss; a calorie deficit causes fat loss.

edited to add: Apparently the disagree bees are out in force on this one. Some of them swarm when anyone says their preferred diet doesn't do anything special for weight loss...but it's still true.

psuLemon · December 2019

Jassaph wrote: »

Hey guys, recently I discovered a group involved in Ketogenic diet and it's really been working for them. I found out the meals they ate was highly proteinous which is what i really want but am worried about all that fat involved in the meals. Please I want to know if anyone has ever gone on this diet before and your opinions about this diet, thank you

For ketogenic, the only thing really required is lowering carbs to below 50g. The belief that one must eat copious amounts of fat is wrong. If the combination of fats and protein satiates you and helps you lowers calories, then it will be a good diet. Personally, only focus on lowering carbs, having good amounts of protein and getting most of my carba from fiber.

Jassaph · December 2019

psuLemon wrote: »

Jassaph wrote: »

Hey guys, recently I discovered a group involved in Ketogenic diet and it's really been working for them. I found out the meals they ate was highly proteinous which is what i really want but am worried about all that fat involved in the meals. Please I want to know if anyone has ever gone on this diet before and your opinions about this diet, thank you

For ketogenic, the only thing really required is lowering carbs to below 50g. The belief that one must eat copious amounts of fat is wrong. If the combination of fats and protein satiates you and helps you lowers calories, then it will be a good diet. Personally, only focus on lowering carbs, having good amounts of protein and getting most of my carba from fiber.

Thank you, i think that would be the best for me, just lower my carbs intake and increase protein then keep the fats moderate

missysippy930 · December 2019

A calorie deficit is how you lose weight.
The diet you choose is a personal choice. Whatever works best for you and you can stick with. All diets are ultimately about eating less calories than your body burns, in order to successfully lose weight.

kshama2001 · December 2019

lemurcat2 · December 2019

Jassaph wrote: »

psuLemon wrote: »

Jassaph wrote: »

Hey guys, recently I discovered a group involved in Ketogenic diet and it's really been working for them. I found out the meals they ate was highly proteinous which is what i really want but am worried about all that fat involved in the meals. Please I want to know if anyone has ever gone on this diet before and your opinions about this diet, thank you

For ketogenic, the only thing really required is lowering carbs to below 50g. The belief that one must eat copious amounts of fat is wrong. If the combination of fats and protein satiates you and helps you lowers calories, then it will be a good diet. Personally, only focus on lowering carbs, having good amounts of protein and getting most of my carba from fiber.

Thank you, i think that would be the best for me, just lower my carbs intake and increase protein then keep the fats moderate

It really depends on what you consider moderate fats.

MFP starts you out at 30% fat, and say at 1500 cals that would be 50 g fat. If you keep it there, reduce carbs to below 50 g (or 200 cal), that leaves 850 g for protein, or 212.5 g. That type of diet would be really hard to manage and I think not that healthy long term, as you are going to be typically relying on fat or carbs for energy.

If by moderate you mean more like 50%, then it would be more like 83 g of fat, no more than 200 cals (50 g) of carbs, and then 138 g of protein, which would seem much more manageable (although likely more protein than you need still).

I'm not a huge fan of eating all the fat you typically need to to hit cals on keto (which is one of a few reasons keto didn't feel sustainable for me, but I was trying it at maintenance and I think on a deficit it would have been a little easier). In any case, doing keto (or lower carb generally), you have to not be afraid of fat, and realize there are some foods where the fat easily adds up that don't involve adding tons of cheese or added fats to foods -- nuts and seeds, avocado, eggs, olives, so on. (I also happily cook veg in some olive oil, make dressings with olive oil and vinegar, and tend to cook chicken bone-in, skin-on -- I can do these things at non keto levels of fat too, but they are things that some dieters think they need to avoid.)

staceyperkins224 · December 2019

I just started a ketogenic diet suggested by a dr at a weight loss clinic. I have pcos and the dr recomended this for me. As with all diets when you want to lose weight you have to have a calorie deficit. The difference with Keto is that you lose visculiar fat first ( the fat around your organs) you eat just enough carbs and sugar for your brain function then your body will start to eat the visuilar fat to use for energy. Between day 3-7 you feel like you have the flu while your body is doing this. Then after day 7 you are fine and have your energy back and your appetite is suppressed. That is what my dr told me Anywyas I’m only on day 3. He wants me to do 3 weeks of it to get ride of the fat around my organs. Then I’m going to be eating whole foods no more processed stuff and am startling my life chargeing eating as apposed to a diet. With the high fat content the way the dr todl me is not like you see people on social media eating bacon and all thsi greedy food. Instead it’s good fats you are consuming like avocados, nuts, olive oil, cottage cheese healthy fats. I have a whole list of stuff he gave me. I have lost 4lbs since I started on dec 27th.

candylilacs · December 2019

The keto flu is electrolytes and salts. So if you can drink one or two Propel (the same people that do Gatorade without all that sugar) then you be all right. It's $1 at the Dollartree.

irma73 · December 2019

Awesome job staceyperkin... I started Keto at the beginning of December. Are you hitting your macros? I'm finding it hard to stay at 20g of carbs and to eat all the protein and fat. How are you being successful?

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