Metamucil and Ketosis
carolmoore611
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On the advice of my doctor, I’m adding intermittent fasting to my Keto protocol. I take Metamucil 3 times a day; will taking it in the morning before I break my fast kick me out of Ketosis?? I see that it DOES have carbs, but they are almost (if not completely) matched in fiber.
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How many carbs? I do want to be following doctor’s orders and if it puts you around 20 carbs, I’d suggest going on a Mediterranean diet.2
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carolmoore611 wrote: »On the advice of my doctor, I’m adding intermittent fasting to my Keto protocol. I take Metamucil 3 times a day; will taking it in the morning before I break my fast kick me out of Ketosis?? I see that it DOES have carbs, but they are almost (if not completely) matched in fiber.
The difference between total carbs and fiber are net carbs. That's what matter for ketosis. If the number of net carbs is low, it is unlikely to affect ketosis.7 -
candylilacs wrote: »How many carbs? I do want to be following doctor’s orders and if it puts you around 20 carbs, I’d suggest going on a Mediterranean diet.
How does a Mediterranean diet, relatively, higher carb, address the needs of a person doing keto ang IF. I don't see any connection.
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Three times a day, sugar-free Metamucil would be 12 carbs a day. How does 8 carbs a day sound to you? It doesn’t sound great to me.2
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candylilacs wrote: »Three times a day, sugar-free Metamucil would be 12 carbs a day. How does 8 carbs a day sound to you? It doesn’t sound great to me.
Neither does chronic constipation. Psst ... many manage to stay in ketosis while eating 50 grams of net carbs a day.6 -
OP, have you also considered eating more veggies instead of using metamucil? Things like cruciferous vegetables, spinach, chia seeds and low GI berries (raspberry, blackberries, strawberries) are a great way on Keto to get fiber. You can also cook with psyllium husk. But I would agree with @Lillymoo01 that you can go a little higher on carbs. I tend to aim for net 25-35g.4
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Based on the attached link there are 5 grams of carbs and 3 grams of fiber in a 6 gram serving. That would make the net carbs 2 per serving. 3 servings per day is a total of 6 grams of carbs.
https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/979752/23 -
Use psyllium husk instead of metamucil. It's the main ingredient in most laxatives and it works very quickly. Definitely read the label and work your way up to the suggested serving size (I believe it was a tablespoon or two per day?), otherwise you're gonna have a bad time. 1 cup of raspberries also has about 8 grams of fiber. A tablespoon of flax seeds has... 3, I believe? I know raspberries are okay on keto, I don't recall if a cup has too many carbs/sugars though.
Although I agree with many of the comments above, Mediterranean diet > keto. I tried keto for about a month and lost 10lbs in that time, but I had my doubts about the long term health effects. It seemed to be like a guaranteed heart attack. (Just my opinion! Myself... I dont necessarily care for butter or meat. But I love my grains, fruits, and veggies.)
I've always had results limiting my calories and getting 4-6 servings of grains/beans, 4-5 servings of veggies/fruits, 2 servings of dairy, 2 servings of proteins, and limiting alcohol and sweets. I think a balanced diet is almost always the better option for health while losing weight.
Though, if keto works for you and you enjoy it, keep it up.
As for IF, it works for me. (Although I was eating OMAD for quite some time.) Because I generally am not hungry in the mornings or afternoons. Just sip on water or black coffee or green tea in the morning until you're ready to eat. What works for me is 12pm until 8pm or 1pm until 6pm (I sleep around 12am).0 -
candylilacs wrote: »How many carbs? I do want to be following doctor’s orders and if it puts you around 20 carbs, I’d suggest going on a Mediterranean diet.candylilacs wrote: »Three times a day, sugar-free Metamucil would be 12 carbs a day. How does 8 carbs a day sound to you? It doesn’t sound great to me.
I'm not clear on what you are suggesting - is it to ditch keto and go Mediterranean instead?3 -
Thanks to all for your input! Greatly appreciated0
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I just have to cut carbs or eat Keto woe and I’m off to the loo 🚽 constantly. I hear of people suffering constapation, I’m the opposite.1
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OP, have you also considered eating more veggies instead of using metamucil? Things like cruciferous vegetables, spinach, chia seeds and low GI berries (raspberry, blackberries, strawberries) are a great way on Keto to get fiber. You can also cook with psyllium husk. But I would agree with @Lillymoo01 that you can go a little higher on carbs. I tend to aim for net 25-35g.
That's what I was thinking. Absent a very specific medical condition, the OP needs to be getting fiber from foods instead of a supplement.
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kshama2001 wrote: »candylilacs wrote: »How many carbs? I do want to be following doctor’s orders and if it puts you around 20 carbs, I’d suggest going on a Mediterranean diet.candylilacs wrote: »Three times a day, sugar-free Metamucil would be 12 carbs a day. How does 8 carbs a day sound to you? It doesn’t sound great to me.
I'm not clear on what you are suggesting - is it to ditch keto and go Mediterranean instead?
Yes, I’m saying to ditch Keto. The way I experienced it, you need two weeks of low-carb (you need 15-20 daily carbs) diet and puts you into ketosis. Then you get 20-30 carbs, and then you get berries and nuts and various veggies and then you get to 35-40 carbs. I grew to 55-60 real carbs and I had small-to-trace levels of ketosis.
Sugar-free Metamucil would hinder your plans with Keto.
The way I experienced Keto, the cheese and meats, was balanced out by the fiber I was ingesting, 3 salads and veggies per day. I wasn’t constipated, I was pretty regular.
The OP should get with a diet that isn’t so carb-sensitive.
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I wouldn't advise OP to change her diet without knowing more. Did the doctor recommend keto? Is there a specific reason? Does OP have some reason to care about being in ketosis (few do) or is OP just really looking for some benefits from low carb (appetite, for some; IR/T2D?).
Also, how many net carbs are in the product and servings that OP is using (there seem to be numerous different Metamucil products).
Is the Metamucil something the doctor recommended/knows about -- did you ask him/her?
(And out of pure curiosity, why IF -- seems like an unusual recommendation from a doctor. Is it related to a health condition or just weight loss? Feel free to ignore if you aren't interested in saying, OP.)8 -
candylilacs wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »candylilacs wrote: »How many carbs? I do want to be following doctor’s orders and if it puts you around 20 carbs, I’d suggest going on a Mediterranean diet.candylilacs wrote: »Three times a day, sugar-free Metamucil would be 12 carbs a day. How does 8 carbs a day sound to you? It doesn’t sound great to me.
I'm not clear on what you are suggesting - is it to ditch keto and go Mediterranean instead?
Yes, I’m saying to ditch Keto. The way I experienced it, you need two weeks of low-carb (you need 15-20 daily carbs) diet and puts you into ketosis. Then you get 20-30 carbs, and then you get berries and nuts and various veggies and then you get to 35-40 carbs. I grew to 55-60 real carbs and I had small-to-trace levels of ketosis.
Sugar-free Metamucil would hinder your plans with Keto.
The way I experienced Keto, the cheese and meats, was balanced out by the fiber I was ingesting, 3 salads and veggies per day. I wasn’t constipated, I was pretty regular.
The OP should get with a diet that isn’t so carb-sensitive.
The OP wasn't asking if they should keep a keto diet or not. Your recommendation is less than helpful in that regard. Especially since you have no idea, and they didn't say, why they are doing keto
Also, such a small amount of net carbs would likely have little to no effect on ketosis.4 -
The OP wasn't asking if they should keep a keto diet or not. Your recommendation is less than helpful in that regard. Especially since you have no idea, and they didn't say, why they are doing keto
Also, such a small amount of net carbs would likely have little to no effect on ketosis.
Why are you up into my business? What is it about my semantics? You're just splitting hairs on word meanings.
Nine out of ten doctors wouldn't recommend Keto, including mine (in your face, Dr. X!). 12-16 carbohydrates is a significant carb count.
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candylilacs wrote: »The OP wasn't asking if they should keep a keto diet or not. Your recommendation is less than helpful in that regard. Especially since you have no idea, and they didn't say, why they are doing keto
Also, such a small amount of net carbs would likely have little to no effect on ketosis.
Why are you up into my business? What is it about my semantics? You're just splitting hairs on word meanings.
Nine out of ten doctors wouldn't recommend Keto, including mine (in your face, Dr. X!). 12-16 carbohydrates is a significant carb count.
Nope. Just disagree with most of you previous post as well as the one above. The OP didn't ask for opinion on doing keto or not. For some, keto is valid diet modality, despite your dislike of it. If you can't be helpful in answering the OP's post, why respond at all?
Additionally, multiple posts you've made indicate you don't understand the difference between gross and net carbs.8
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