Does anyone else hate using kilojoules?

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cyaneverfat
cyaneverfat Posts: 527 Member
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I wish the whole world used calories.

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  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    I am fine with using kilojoules but there is nothing stopping you from changing kilojoules to calories in your diary settings.
  • cyaneverfat
    cyaneverfat Posts: 527 Member
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    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    I am fine with using kilojoules but there is nothing stopping you from changing kilojoules to calories in your diary settings.

    But most foods don't list calories on their packaging and it's a pain in the butt to constantly use google to find out how many calories are listed for it.
  • cyaneverfat
    cyaneverfat Posts: 527 Member
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    I prefer working with smaller numbers
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    I just read this which I found interesting. It appears that only the US and UK officially use calories as their unit of measure.
    https://www.coca-colacompany.com/au/news/you-say-calorie--we-say-kilojoule-who-s-right-
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    cyaneverfat wrote: »
    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    I am fine with using kilojoules but there is nothing stopping you from changing kilojoules to calories in your diary settings.

    But most foods don't list calories on their packaging and it's a pain in the butt to constantly use google to find out how many calories are listed for it.

    It would be easier if packaging using both. I certainly agree with you there. I go by the divide by 4 rule though for a rough estimate.
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,171 Member
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    I'm curious, in what country are you, that they only use kJ?
    Here in Belgium both kJ and kcal are mentioned on all the packages, but I've never heard anyone talk about kilojoules, everybody uses calories.

    And I can't remember having seen kJ only labels while traveling (or at least not in those countries where we occasionally did our own food shopping).
  • yuko0407
    yuko0407 Posts: 67 Member
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    Lietchi wrote: »
    I'm curious, in what country are you, that they only use kJ?
    Here in Belgium both kJ and kcal are mentioned on all the packages, but I've never heard anyone talk about kilojoules, everybody uses calories.

    Yes, and the same in France and Italy.
  • Stockholm_Andy
    Stockholm_Andy Posts: 803 Member
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    Both here in Sweden too
  • babyluthi
    babyluthi Posts: 285 Member
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    NZ is Kj, though a very few things list both.
    On here I use cals, but I still weigh in kg.
  • cyaneverfat
    cyaneverfat Posts: 527 Member
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    I live in New Zealand
  • Lolinloggen
    Lolinloggen Posts: 465 Member
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    EU uses both by law, that is in part due to historical reasons, and because some countries hold on to units that are not SI.
    Within SI all units are traceable to some base units, Joule for energy being one.
    Older units often have standard easy conversions. For instance deg Celcius has the same scale as Kelvin the SI unit, except that for Kelvin you add 273.15 to get to deg Celcius. The conversion to Fahrenheit is not linear and I have no clue what the numbers mean in relationship to C. I know it is based on body temperature or something.
    Like calories the electron Volt (eV = 1.60217662 × 10-19 joules) is directly linked to Joules via a simple conversion, akin to calories. eV is used in particle physics to allow numbers to become a little larger.

    Some countries have decided to move where possible to the SI system and kJ is one of them It takes a little getting used to. I always see these things in a similar vain to currency conversion between countries or even as we had in Europe when we moved to the Euro. It too quite a few years before people stopped converting Euro to Guilders here, but after a while you know and it is the new baseline. Same here.
    It still means you have a budget of energy and you need to stay within it. That does not change.
  • john_not_typical
    john_not_typical Posts: 44 Member
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    The conversion to Fahrenheit is not linear and I have no clue what the numbers mean in relationship to C.

    The conversion from deg F to deg C is absolutely linear. I’m not sure what you mean.
  • cyaneverfat
    cyaneverfat Posts: 527 Member
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    john_not_typical wrote: »
    The conversion to Fahrenheit is not linear and I have no clue what the numbers mean in relationship to C.

    The conversion from deg F to deg C is absolutely linear. I’m not sure what you mean.

    True, but we are not talking about temperature
  • john_not_typical
    john_not_typical Posts: 44 Member
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    I am once again confused because deg F and deg C measure only temperature. If you know what an eV is it seems like you know what you’re talking about.

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